69 Charger 500 - XX29L9B217195-R6 -C6X - with a Vinyl top

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    https://www.500classicauto.com/details/used-1970-dodge-charger-500/86336827    

XX29L9B217195       https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPj8UzcYric&t=62s

this car looks familiar ... from somewhere

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there are a few more pictures on the advert & website ,

[5hunert]

Wow, the vinyl top moldings are almost identical to those on my car.  And based on the VINs they were likely built within a day of each other.  217160 and 217195.

Editorial comment: I still have the broadcast sheet for 217190, awaiting the current owner to contact me.  It was in my back seat.

[426HemiChick]

Hi Tan Top,                 29 June 2022

Hope all is well.

This 1969 500, is it For Sale? If so, what is the asking price?

We thought the Charger 500 was a 1969 model. According to the sales flyer, this is a 1970 Charger 500; it hasn't anything to do with NASCAR. The original Charger 500 preceded the 69 Daytona and was a 1969 Model. If this is a 1970, we doubt it has the same value as a 1969 Charger 500.

The VIN indicates 1969 so the sales flyer is in error.

We see lots of rust, incorrect radiator, Seats w/o head rests, Fender tag disaster, Non matching #'s, etc.

This is a big project that we doubt will return the cost of restoration. Not knowing the asking price makes it even more iffy.

It has Indiana plates on it indicating it has had a lot of salt exposure. That being the case there is a potential for hidden salt damage. We wouldn't touch it unless it were free, and that's a stretch.

The exhaust pipes and fuel tank look nice.

With today's crazy prices, it wouldn't surprise us it went for $75K; a lot to pay for a new non stock exhaust and new fuel tank.

No offense intended; just don't see much value in it for anything other than a parts car . . . .  and not a good one at that.

What the heck do we know???

Best Always

426 Hemi Chicks

[Mytur Binsdirti]

"Email for Price"

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 what MTD said  

says email for the  price .... heres their advert  on classiccarsdotcom  

https://classiccars.com/listings/view/1612651/1970-dodge-charger-500-for-sale-in-knightstown-indiana-46148

& also below  a screen capture from their website .

 awesome color R6  

 needs lot of  work wont be cheap to restore it , be ok if you can do all the work your self,
if i was 30 years younger  would have bought this by now  
what ever the asking price is  everything is over priced to me today ,
i'm stuck in the 80s price wise  with the value of these cars  
still they are not making these anymore & already our cars are more than half a century old  
 Good luck to the Seller & Buyer , as long as both are happy  

think the seller has just put that exhaust on & got it kind of mechanicaly reliable , makes for a better advert running & drivable etc ,
that  E series  HP 440  think came out of a C-Body  originally  

[70 sublime]

I just emailed them and asked how much

Will see how stupid the $$$$ is that they can not list publicly 

[70 sublime]

I just got an automatic reply back saying lister may take 2 or 3 days to give me a reply

[held1823]

The seller is fifteen miles from where I live. They had a '70 Coronet R/T in similar shape not long ago.

[70 sublime]

I got an email reply

He is asking $55 000 for the car

[5hunert]

If it was an R/T folks would be tripping over each other to buy it.  Not sure why a 500 should be worth less.

[AKcharger]

Huh? vinyl top that's super rare, isn't it??

[RallyeMike]

Drive a Charger 500 home for maybe $50k actually sounds almost reasonable in today's crazy market.

[moparstuart]

Drive a Charger 500 home for maybe $50k actually sounds almost reasonable in today's crazy market.

i was thinking the same  ,  if the frame parts are not to crusty 

[tan top]

Drive a Charger 500 home for maybe $50k actually sounds almost reasonable in today's crazy market.

i was thinking the same  ,  if the frame parts are not to crusty 

me three , thought the same 

[hemi-hampton]

As Hemichick would say it just needs to be sent to Roger Gibson for a proper correct resto at the price of $375k but for this rust bucket it would probably be $475k plus the $55K+ to buy it, You'll have $530k into it when done. Then how much could you sell it for? LEON.

[5hunert]

As Hemichick would say it just needs to be sent to Roger Gibson for a proper correct resto at the price of $375k but for this rust bucket it would probably be $475k plus the $55K+ to buy it, You'll have $530k into it when done. Then how much could you sell it for? LEON.

I'm with Tan Top and Rallye Mike. Skip Roger G. Get it operable. Drive the hell out of it. Those few people who actually know what a Charger 500 is will really dig it. It will probably be the first one they have seen in the flesh. Half the people who've seen my faded 500 tell me to never paint it, and continue to drive it as is.  Worman even made a slot car of it.

[aerolith]

Nice Charger 500!

Do a bit more research and don't call it a 1970 car...

Good colour and nicely optioned if you could read the fender tag?

My C500 was the last one made on December 19th 1968...

The original block is a 1968 September casting (so 4 months before) and is an XS fender tag.
XS block stamping and XX dash tag...

I think $50K is very fair indeed, as I got $45,000 for mine last year (with better all round condition) pre war lol...

Vinyl on a C500, that's a little bit Birdie?

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 now on ebay      
https://www.ebay.com/itm/295085090406
really like this     not sure if its the R6 with a vinyl top  ... i  can imagine it restored  with the black top put back   ..

if only i was  30 years younger  

[Mytur Binsdirti]

All it needs is another 75 large (on top of the purchase price) and it'll look as good as new!

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All it needs is another 75 large (on top of the purchase price) and it'll look as good as new!

not going to be cheap if your paying for a shops labour time

[hemi-hampton]

All it needs is another 75 large (on top of the purchase price) and it'll look as good as new!

I guess you missed my $375 & $475k comment.

[Mytur Binsdirti]

All it needs is another 75 large (on top of the purchase price) and it'll look as good as new!

I guess you missed my $375 & $475k comment.

I guess I did. 

[ksquared]

Huh? vinyl top that's super rare, isn't it??

I was wondering the same, and found http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php?topic=6670.0 from back in 2005 when it was discussed.

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Sold

[472 R/T SE]

Nice Charger 500!

Do a bit more research and don't call it a 1970 car...

Good colour and nicely optioned if you could read the fender tag?

My C500 was the last one made on December 19th 1968...

The original block is a 1968 September casting (so 4 months before) and is an XS fender tag.
XS block stamping and XX dash tag...

I think $50K is very fair indeed, as I got $45,000 for mine last year (with better all round condition) pre war lol...

Vinyl on a C500, that's a little bit Birdie?

My fc7 v code, A34, 4 gear coupe Super Bee was the last V code, 2nd to last overall Bee outta St. Louis according to GG.
It had all sorts of '69 parts.  They threw whatever was leftover in the parts bin at it.

Cool car but no way I can't drive bench seats anymore.  The left hand corners put me in the pass. seat, lol.

[aerolith]

Full resto on an 'AERO' is $100,000...

Once you start 'cutting corners' where do you stop?

Anything less and its a daily driver lol

Hard to imagine now?

Charger 500's as a daily and a drag car...

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

It was listed for sale on here in 2012...looked worse then

[472 R/T SE]

It was listed for sale on here in 2012...looked worse then

Wow...just wow.

I was offered $80k for my full tag, fc7, all #'s, all #'s parts with $25k spent on current drivetrain driver by a prominent Charger restorer not long ago.
Thats why my car will never be offered to the public when I pass.  My close mopar friends know what its worth so my daughter doesn't get shafted.

[hemi-hampton]

Full resto on an 'AERO' is $100,000...

Once you start 'cutting corners' where do you stop?

Anything less and its a daily driver lol

Hard to imagine now?

Charger 500's as a daily and a drag car...

Not if you go to Roger Gibson who Charges $375,000.00

[472 R/T SE]

Full resto on an 'AERO' is $100,000...

Once you start 'cutting corners' where do you stop?

Anything less and its a daily driver lol

Hard to imagine now?

Charger 500's as a daily and a drag car...

Not if you go to Roger Gibson who Charges $375,000.00

hemi-hampton, iirc was it Leon?

Are you doing your own thing? Id send my car to you tomorrow!

[aerolith]

Half stripped out cars always look bad!

My Moparmate reassembles all his 'project' cars 'for sale' as buyers can't see what they are buying?

If you tell folks ''it needs a new floor'' then they picture 'a few' rust holes.

Unlike this car that needs a FULL 'carpet' to cover this up, as the hubcap is way 'too small' lol...

[RallyeMike]

It was listed for sale on here in 2012...looked worse then

Yikes. Progress, or lipstick. TBD.

[426HemiChick]

Hi Folks,              21 July 2022

Sorry to say, but this rust bucket is a disaster looking for a place to happen. Apparently it was sold so the place to happen is now with the buyer.

Let's face it, the American dollar isn't worth much these days. $50K today buys what $20K bought a couple years ago.

If you want a good restoration, you need to start with something other than a bunch of rust holes. Probably the only valuable things on that car are the Fender and Vin tags, a few salvageable drivetrain parts and glass. Gotta start with something.

We doubt Roger would even consider restoring this hulk. It would require a couple ten yard dumpsters just for the non salvageable parts (read that as the whole mess).

We hope we're still around when this "Survivor" emerges from a resto shop; it could end up being the Eighth Wonder of the World (currently there are seven).

Good luck new owner, hope your Piggy Bank can afford your dream machine.

Best Always

426 Hemi Chicks

[green69rt]

A side question, I looked and looked but could not see any torque boxing.  Was that not used till 69 or later.?  Or was it just an aftermarket addon?  Somebody educate me.

[426HemiChick]

A side question, I looked and looked but could not see any torque boxing.  Was that not used till 69 or later.?  Or was it just an aftermarket addon?  Somebody educate me.

Hi green69rt,                 22 July 2022

We had 3 Mopar's that had Torque Boxes. All were Hemi's; 68 Road Runner, 69 Daytona, 70 Cuda. They were standard on Hemi cars. There are reports that there may be a couple Hemi cars that didn't get them and a 440 Daytona that has them.

We did see a "supposed" Hemi Daytona that didn't have them. We posted on that car several times on this site. We believe it was a phony because the dealer we talked to had a ready answer of why they were missing: "Chrysler stopped putting them on cars after 1968." We told him our 68, 69 and 70 Mopar's had them. The car is still out there though we don't know where. We are not the only ones that know of the car.

Folks have tried to fake them; fairly easy to detect if you have seen the real ones. To our knowledge there were no part numbers for them where you could order them from a dealer. Also, all Hemi Cars came with a skid plate on the Cross Member; quite distinctive.

Hope this answers your question.

Best Always

426 Hemi Chicks

[426HemiChick]

Hi green69rt,                 22 July 2022

Looked over every photo on this thread. No torque boxes, no skid plate. Never a genuine Hemi car, even if it had had a Hemi at one time.

This is a case of "Lipstick on a Pig" though the Lipstick is lousy and this pig is in its "Death Throes."

Maybe the buyer sees something we don't see; all we can say is: "Condolences."

Best Always

426 Hemi Chicks

PS:

We ain't no experts and we ain't too good at grammar or spelting.

[426HemiChick]

Hi Folks,                  23 July 2022

Still up. This heap of oxidized metal is haunting us. This once beautiful car has been subjected to "Classic Car Abuse" similar to Child Abuse (no lectures please, know more about it than most). Had this car been stored somewhere other than in an environment exuding extreme moisture, it would be in much better shape. Its 53 years old, and looks "Worser" than me.

Went back and looked over the photos; it has a cracked windscreen. This is stuff that's relatively easy to see. The environment it apparently "Thrived" in for the past 50+ years may have caused more hidden damage than one can find with only a visual inspection.

Sure glad we didn't have any hair-brained thoughts of rescuing it. Like we said, we wouldn't want it if it were free. We do feel Sorry for the car; it didn't do anything to deserve its current fate.

Taking a break for a spot of tea.

Just brewed a cup of Twinings Ceylon Orange Pekoe Tea. Good stuff, difficult to find in food stores.

We hope the new owner bought this with both eyes wide open and that they have deep pockets, they're going to need them. Sorry we can't help, we're all tapped out.

Take Care

Best Always

426 Hemi Chicks

[hemi-hampton]

Full resto on an 'AERO' is $100,000...

Once you start 'cutting corners' where do you stop?

Anything less and its a daily driver lol

Hard to imagine now?

Charger 500's as a daily and a drag car...

Not if you go to Roger Gibson who Charges $375,000.00

hemi-hampton, iirc was it Leon?

Are you doing your own thing? Id send my car to you tomorrow!

NO, Not doing my own thing anymore, Dave Dudeks Black 69 Hemi Roadrunner he uses for the F.A.S.T. Racing series is the last Mopar I painted/partially Restored in past 5 Years. At present time I'm stuck Painting & Repairing School Bus's & 18 Wheeler Semi Trucks. Easy Job though. LEON.

[472 R/T SE]

Back in the day, back halving was popular.

Just ask some of the buyers of J. Junemanns cars, smh, lol. 

[426HemiChick]

All it needs is another 75 large (on top of the purchase price) and it'll look as good as new!

Hi Mytur Binsdirti,               25 July 2022

Yeah, and a 55 gallon drum of Bondo.

It could probably be restored, but at what cost and what would it be worth when finished?

Most likely one could buy one already done for close to what the rust queen would cost to just clean up.

Save your money and buy a truck load of Vegas, sell the backlights then scrap out the remainder.

Best Always

426 Hemi Chicks