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Hemi Daytona XX29J9B412548 At Mecum Kissimmee T5/C6T

Started by 69F8C500, October 14, 2022, 08:41:09 PM

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426HemiChick

Quote from: A383Wing on November 01, 2022, 03:37:49 PM
Quote from: birdsandbees on November 01, 2022, 01:22:53 PM
It's not rust... they go brown from the heat off the voltage regulator for the gauges.

"rust colored then"......still looks terrible....should have been addressed when it was being put back together.....it's defiantly not "patina"

Hi A383Wing,                  01 November 2022

How about "Aged" Hemi Orange? It gives the car "Character." Kind of like some of the folks one sees at collector car auctions and Web Sites devoted to Mopar's.

Best Always

426 Hemi Chicks
Veteran - US Navy  Ex-Smoker (05 Mar 69) 55 years, heading for 100, 45 to go. Still lots to learn, lots to make up for. Weren't no angel. Fugitive from Southlake TX's Kangaroo Court

69hemidaytona

Quote from: A383Wing on November 01, 2022, 03:37:49 PM
Quote from: birdsandbees on November 01, 2022, 01:22:53 PM
It's not rust... they go brown from the heat off the voltage regulator for the gauges.
I noticed the yellow gauges as well and it's a big pet peeve of mine however Roger Gibson did this car sometime in the 1980s I believe. Those gauges have yellowed since that time. If you look at the magazine photos the gauges were nice and white.

"rust colored then"......still looks terrible....should have been addressed when it was being put back together.....it's defiantly not "patina
I noticed the yellow gauges as well and it's a big pet peeve of mine however Roger Gibson did this car sometime in the 1980s I believe. Those gauges have yellowed since that time. If you look at the magazine photos the gauges were nice and white.

69hemidaytona

I noticed the yellow gauges as well and it's a big pet peeve of mine however Roger Gibson did this car sometime in the 1980s I believe. Those gauges have yellowed since that time. If you look at the magazine photos the gauges were nice and white.

426HemiChick

Quote from: 69hemidaytona on November 01, 2022, 10:44:39 PM
I noticed the yellow gauges as well and it's a big pet peeve of mine however Roger Gibson did this car sometime in the 1980s I believe. Those gauges have yellowed since that time. If you look at the magazine photos the gauges were nice and white.

Hi 69hemidaytona,                 02 November 2022

If we didn't have my Knee issues, we'd go to the auction, buy the Daytona, have Roger restore the Speedometer, end of peeves. For awhile; until next time.

Darn Knees. Oh well, when it comes up for sale again.

Best Always

426 Hemi Chicks
Veteran - US Navy  Ex-Smoker (05 Mar 69) 55 years, heading for 100, 45 to go. Still lots to learn, lots to make up for. Weren't no angel. Fugitive from Southlake TX's Kangaroo Court

tan top

dont quote me on this but i think from memory originally  :scratchchin:   that Daytona was so well preserved , it was  only the exterior body painted & wing / hood repaired / replaced , if i remember correctally, engine compartment,  underside  was left un touched with all the factory inspection marks & assembly line parts , the interior did not need anything except a good cleaning, i await to be corrected with anything  :yesnod:  . i could be getting confused with something else & or its been a nut & bolt resto since i think i remembered the story on this car  :shruggy:

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Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

Charger Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,86777.0.html
Chargers in the background where you least expect them 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,97261.0.html
C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.925.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

hemi68charger

I'd trade for this Hemi 4speed.......  :lol:  You knew that was coming........................   
Troy
'69 Charger Daytona 440 auto 4.10 Dana ( now 426 HEMI )
'70 Superbird 426 Hemi auto: Lindsley Bonneville Salt Flat world record holder (220.2mph)
Houston Mopar Club Connection

69hemidaytona

Quote from: tan top on November 02, 2022, 07:07:23 AM
dont quote me on this but i think from memory originally  :scratchchin:   that Daytona was so well preserved , it was  only the exterior body painted & wing / hood repaired / replaced , if i remember correctally, engine compartment,  underside  was left un touched with all the factory inspection marks & assembly line parts , the interior did not need anything except a good cleaning, i await to be corrected with anything  :yesnod:  . i could be getting confused with something else & or its been a nut & bolt resto since i think i remembered the story on this car  :shruggy:

:popcrn: :popcrn:
I know the interior was untouched. I don't know the extent of any undercarriage work. I would almost be certain that the engine was not rebuilt since the mileage was so low. It was probably just detailed. When I recently sold my Hemi Daytona I was able to get a world record price for a hemi-automatic Daytona. It made sense for me to sell it since I had it sitting in a museum and couldn't even look at the car let alone drive it. Maybe I'll have wished I held on to it, maybe not. I guess we'll find out in January. Does anybody know what day these cars are being auctioned?

426HemiChick

Quote from: 69hemidaytona on November 02, 2022, 08:15:11 AM

I know the interior was untouched. I don't know the extent of any undercarriage work. I would almost be certain that the engine was not rebuilt since the mileage was so low. It was probably just detailed. When I recently sold my Hemi Daytona I was able to get a world record price for a hemi-automatic Daytona. It made sense for me to sell it since I had it sitting in a museum and couldn't even look at the car let alone drive it. Maybe I'll have wished I held on to it, maybe not. I guess we'll find out in January. Does anybody know what day these cars are being auctioned?

Hi 69hemidaytona,             07 November 2022

"Maybe I'll have wished I held on to it, maybe not. I guess we'll find out in January. Does anybody know what day these cars are being auctioned?"

Best we could find is 04 - 15 January 2023. The MECUM ad calls it a Main Attraction. Guess is it will hit the block later.

Once it and your Hemi Daytona are sold, what's left? Think there may be a couple additional Hemi Wing cars. Our guess is iffy.

The election is tomorrow, we should have a fair idea where this country is heading by the next day (09 Nov). It could bode well for the prices and it could knock the pins out. This is going to be interesting, just hope it goes the right way.

We think you did well for yourself. Prices go up, they go down. Reminds me of a stockbroker I met on a flight way back when my knees were still pristine. His advice: "Buy Low, Sell High. Don't get Greedy."

If things go well tomorrow, our guess: Both cars will top $2mil. If we were the ones buying them, we'd rather have yours as it is the color we like, Roger did a complete restoration on yours so it's as perfect as they get and frankly, the copper color though rare, doesn't ring our bell. Best we can say for it is it does have, color rarity, low mileage and a 4 spd, which don't mean a lot to us. The 4sp rarity thing has been debunked yet the hucksters keep using it; yeah, we know, they are only interested in squeezing the last buck out of them. Call them: "Classy High End Flippers."

Looking forward to Wednesday's results. We think we know where things will go, just not saying on this neutral thread.

You need to look at Phoenix if you want a dry place for your cars. Lots of sunshine, low humidity (avg. 8%) and beautiful scenery (Mountains) surrounding this place and a great highway system. Almost forgot: No Hurricanes !!!

The auction starts about 3 weeks after my knee surgery; hoping they will do both knees rather than making me wait 3 months. Will be in rehab so that precludes us from attending.

Take care amigo, enjoy life; that's what it's all about.

God Bless You and Your Family, Happy Thanksgiving and Have a Blessed Christmas and New Year !!!

Best Always

426 Hemi Chicks
Veteran - US Navy  Ex-Smoker (05 Mar 69) 55 years, heading for 100, 45 to go. Still lots to learn, lots to make up for. Weren't no angel. Fugitive from Southlake TX's Kangaroo Court

6bblgt

the copper 4-speed HEMI Daytona (lot # R411) is currently on the docket for Friday January 13th

the orange automatic HEMI Daytona (lot # R182) is currently on the docket for Thursday January 12th

426HemiChick

Quote from: 6bblgt on November 08, 2022, 01:36:59 PM
the copper 4-speed HEMI Daytona (lot # R411) is currently on the docket for Friday January 13th

the orange automatic HEMI Daytona (lot # R182) is currently on the docket for Thursday January 12th

Hi 6bblgt,                  08 November 2022

Thanks for finding the dates and posting them. Guess we didn't search the right area or just don't know where to look.

We'd sure like to have Tony's V2 Hemi Daytona; it's almost a duplicate of Bob's Hemi Daytona. Can't go to Kissimmee, will be in knee rehab then. Maybe do a TV/computer hookup. Will have to see how the knees are doing by then.

Thanks Again 6bblgt.

Best Always

426 Hemi Chicks
Veteran - US Navy  Ex-Smoker (05 Mar 69) 55 years, heading for 100, 45 to go. Still lots to learn, lots to make up for. Weren't no angel. Fugitive from Southlake TX's Kangaroo Court

nascarxx29

1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

69hemidaytona

Quote from: 6bblgt on November 08, 2022, 01:36:59 PM
the copper 4-speed HEMI Daytona (lot # R411) is currently on the docket for Friday January 13th

the orange automatic HEMI Daytona (lot # R182) is currently on the docket for Thursday January 12th
Thank you for that info but how are you able to determine that? The letter R in front of the item number does not correspond on their chart with any date.

6bblgt

they have the "R" vehicles all over the "schedule"   :slap:

I went thru the Thursday and Friday individual listings until I found the 2 HEMI Daytonas   :cheers:  I used "currently" because I'll "ASSUME" that could change  :shruggy:

hemi-hampton


nascarxx29

The daytona came out almost in 70 and had 70 hood and fenders
1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

426HemiChick

Quote from: nascarxx29 on November 09, 2022, 10:25:01 PM
The daytona came out almost in 70 and had 70 hood and fenders
Hi nascarxx29,               13 November 2022

Don't remember where we read that the 69 Daytona hoods were a special production run and differed a little from the 1970 Charger production hood.

We had an original 69 Daytona and a spare 70 Charger hood. From the best that we could tell from looking at them, they were the same with the exception of holes for the hood pins. This was not a scientific examination.

Best Always

426 Hemi Chicks
Veteran - US Navy  Ex-Smoker (05 Mar 69) 55 years, heading for 100, 45 to go. Still lots to learn, lots to make up for. Weren't no angel. Fugitive from Southlake TX's Kangaroo Court

6bblgt

there was nothing NECESARY about a '69 Daytona hood that made it a Daytona VS '70 Charger hood, but the earliest production run of hoods did not have "RIBS" to support the leading edge - some of the early '70 Chargers also have the same "NO RIB" hood

& AFAIK there are no Daytonas with factory hood turn signals  :scratchchin:

70 sublime

Quote from: 6bblgt on November 13, 2022, 10:45:48 PM
there was nothing NECESARY about a '69 Daytona hood that made it a Daytona VS '70 Charger hood, but the earliest production run of hoods did not have "RIBS" to support the leading edge - some of the early '70 Chargers also have the same "NO RIB" hood

& AFAIK there are no Daytonas with factory hood turn signals  :scratchchin:

When you say the Daytona never had the hood turn signal lights in the hood was the hole there and just had the blanks or was the hole never punched out ?

I have one of the early 70 hoods with out the extra ribs at the front but but I also have no hood pin holes in mine
next project 70 Charger FJ5 green

426HemiChick

Quote from: 6bblgt on November 13, 2022, 10:45:48 PM
there was nothing NECESARY about a '69 Daytona hood that made it a Daytona VS '70 Charger hood, but the earliest production run of hoods did not have "RIBS" to support the leading edge - some of the early '70 Chargers also have the same "NO RIB" hood

& AFAIK there are no Daytonas with factory hood turn signals  :scratchchin:

Hi 6bblgt,                13 November 2022

Since we no longer have the Daytona or the hood, and working from memory there were no ribs that we remember. So it was an early 70 hood because the guy we bought it from said it came from a 70 Charger and is the same as the hood on the Daytona's with the exception of the holes for the hood pins.

If that's the case, then if an early 70 charger hood is used to replace an original Daytona hood, then it's no big deal when it comes to "Originality" of the Daytona; correct?

Reason we are broaching this subject is the Copper Hemi Daytona 4-spd does not have its original hood yet the car is considered by some to be the rarest Hemi Daytona.

Please don't think we are being critical of anything or anybody, just trying to learn what is what in case we decide to own another Daytona. We do miss ours. When you come down to it, being a parent of a Daytona puts one into a rare club; even rarer if it's a Hemi Daytona.

Thanks for the information and lesson.

Best Always

426 Hemi Chicks
Veteran - US Navy  Ex-Smoker (05 Mar 69) 55 years, heading for 100, 45 to go. Still lots to learn, lots to make up for. Weren't no angel. Fugitive from Southlake TX's Kangaroo Court

426HemiChick

Quote from: 6bblgt on November 13, 2022, 10:45:48 PM
there was nothing NECESARY about a '69 Daytona hood that made it a Daytona VS '70 Charger hood, but the earliest production run of hoods did not have "RIBS" to support the leading edge - some of the early '70 Chargers also have the same "NO RIB" hood

& AFAIK there are no Daytonas with factory hood turn signals  :scratchchin:

Hi 6bblgt,               14 November 2022

Since the 69 Daytona's were produced using 70 Charger hoods and fenders, this probably means that the 69 Daytona's were produced during the 70 model run. We have heard the Daytona's were Made from 69 Chargers that were leftover, but this makes no sense because some of the Daytona's were special ordered. Whatever the case may be, we think there are some mysteries about the Daytona's that will never see the light of day. That's fine, probably makes them even more valuable and more enjoyable to talk about. Lots of "What If's."

On the subject of the signal lights, our Daytona had the holes in the hood for the lights and were filled by what appeared (from memory) to be the light without the guts of the light. Made for a convenient place to lift the hood enough to get one's hand under the hood so one could release the safety latch. We do not remember if the 70 hood had them.

Need to stay off the threads about Daytona's; if we don't we'll get the Daytona "Itch" to buy one which will interfere with our KW project.

Going to work on Knees and will worry about Daytona's and KW Trokas luego.

Best Always

426 Hemi Chicks  
Veteran - US Navy  Ex-Smoker (05 Mar 69) 55 years, heading for 100, 45 to go. Still lots to learn, lots to make up for. Weren't no angel. Fugitive from Southlake TX's Kangaroo Court

A383Wing

didn't we just have a conversation about the Daytona hoods that had openings at the cowl edge that no other hoods had?

hemigeno

Quote from: A383Wing on November 14, 2022, 08:14:04 PM
didn't we just have a conversation about the Daytona hoods that had openings at the cowl edge that no other hoods had?


:yesnod:    A few years ago, but here's one thread which discusses the topic:

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,130780.0/all.html

A383Wing


69hemidaytona

Mecum's website is now showing this Hemi Daytona and all of the rest of the cars this seller is selling are at no reserve. Prior to now this car and I think all of the rest of his were reserve. Also the Hemi Daytona I formerly owned is selling at no reserve one day earlier.

hemi68charger

Quote from: 6bblgt on November 13, 2022, 10:45:48 PM
there was nothing NECESARY about a '69 Daytona hood that made it a Daytona VS '70 Charger hood, but the earliest production run of hoods did not have "RIBS" to support the leading edge - some of the early '70 Chargers also have the same "NO RIB" hood

& AFAIK there are no Daytonas with factory hood turn signals  :scratchchin:

Mine has it.. The car is coded with A01.. Now, did all of them with the AO1 get the trunk light switch mount bracket relocated and the hood indicators mounted? My Daytona was painted/"restored" back in 94.. I would need to ask the then owners if they added the light assemblies.....
Troy
'69 Charger Daytona 440 auto 4.10 Dana ( now 426 HEMI )
'70 Superbird 426 Hemi auto: Lindsley Bonneville Salt Flat world record holder (220.2mph)
Houston Mopar Club Connection