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Listed 69 Daytona for sale

Started by Howie, September 21, 2006, 05:19:08 AM

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Howie

Checking erape this morning and there is a 69 Daytona in Jersey for sale.  Bidding is up around high 70`s right now.

hemi68charger

That's Dave's car.. WINGED6970.........
Troy
'69 Charger Daytona 440 auto 4.10 Dana ( now 426 HEMI )
'70 Superbird 426 Hemi auto: Lindsley Bonneville Salt Flat world record holder (220.2mph)
Houston Mopar Club Connection

daytonalo

Not a bad profit , I heard the car was bought  for about half of what a new 426 crate Hemi sells for , back in the late 80,s

41husk

I remember a bird for sale at monster mopar in the early 90 maybe late 80s  The guy had $25,000 on the car and the last day of the show His steering was locked up and he couldnt drive the car home.  He told me give me 10k as is and it's yours.  It might as well been 10 million in those days.  anyway it was in very good shape cosmetics any way.  I bet that guy is kicking himself now.  I know I am for not finding away to come up with 10k.  Were any of you going to monster mopar back then ?  It was a yellow bird.
1969 Dodge Charger 500 440/727
1970 Challenger convertible 340/727
1970 Plymouth Duster FM3
1974 Dodge Dart /6/904
1983 Plymouth Scamp GT 2.2 Auto
1950 Dodge Pilot house pick up

Aero426

Good story.   I don't remember it, but the first time we were there was 1993.   

The thing is, even at $10k,  it still was a lot of money to come up with on the spot.  All through the years, wing cars have neve been the kind of thing where to get a deal, you always had to be in the right place and the right time, with a little green in your wallet ready to go.


69_500

Timing is everything in the wing car side of the hobby as far as I can tell.

And time is on my side, or at least that is what I keep telling myself.


One of these days I'll have one.

41husk

yep! I think most of us that don't already have one are thinking the same thing!
1969 Dodge Charger 500 440/727
1970 Challenger convertible 340/727
1970 Plymouth Duster FM3
1974 Dodge Dart /6/904
1983 Plymouth Scamp GT 2.2 Auto
1950 Dodge Pilot house pick up

BigBlockSam

QuoteIt might as well been 10 million in those days 

me too, i've always been a dollar short
I won't be wronged, I wont be Insulted and I wont be laid a hand on. I don't do these things to others, and I require the same from them.

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69_500

Ah heck if its just a $1 your short I'll give ya a $1. :)

:icon_smile_big:

41husk

Now, if I can get 9,999 more members to pony up a dollar I will have the $10,000 I needed 17 years ago.  Sweet all I need now is the member that can lend me his time machine so I can get back there.  Heck as long as I got the time machine, I might as well just go back a few more years and buy a couple of wing cars for my new found 10k :icon_smile_cool: and I thought I would never get a superbird or Daytona.  Now I can have one of each.
1969 Dodge Charger 500 440/727
1970 Challenger convertible 340/727
1970 Plymouth Duster FM3
1974 Dodge Dart /6/904
1983 Plymouth Scamp GT 2.2 Auto
1950 Dodge Pilot house pick up

BigBlockSam

1979, could of had one for $9000,   1992 could of had one for
4 $2500
I won't be wronged, I wont be Insulted and I wont be laid a hand on. I don't do these things to others, and I require the same from them.

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fastmark

Heck, I bought mine for $2200 from a guy in Houston who had it for sale for about a month in the local paper and no one wanted it. That was back in 82.

nascarxx29

Fastmark I lived in Houston around that time.And had a few superbirds and other mopars at that time.I tryed to get and looked at several daytonas and superbirds from Houston back in those days all around TX?.Did you get the black one out out Porter TX. thoughI didnt get my daytona seen below out of TX area .Getting back on subject this was the only average restorable daytona I came across at this years carlisle that was there available.the other ones from oldays in Houston TX 317   Discussion Boards / General Discussion / Re: AWESOME '68 HEMI 'RUNNER !!!  on: February 09, 2006, 06:57:12 AM 
And found this in Alief marine and storage off beliare in houston Tx for $3000.00.I passed on it it went to a friend in Houston .They Randy P got it a put a hemi in it .Randy also had a R6 Ac 69 charger 500 .I found and recorded many wings all over the TX area.But found alot in side and outside Houston .There was a 69 Daytona at a Apartment complex Tim Ecord 69 daytona .On Chimney rock off westheimer I tried to get






















1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

daytonalo

Hey guys , what do you think Dave's car is worth as is vs fully restored ?

nascarxx29

My thoughts are these cars can be restored many times .But only factory untouched and correctly intact as it left the factory original once.When you can find a vast numbers of 1 owner fully documented matching numbers cars with loads of paperwork And is a legimate car .With no numbers of past owners sharing horror stories and experiences about said car.As I always felt that kind of a cars history is a plus.My requirements on my car searches wasnt to dwell to much on typical mopar type short comings from usual bad trunks due to back window and trunk seal leaks. Aided by the rubber moisture trapping trunk matt also distresses a trunk floor.My main focus was to not get a car.Or own a car that has serious structual rust issues.The body metal reworking and appearance cosmetics required were a trival matter to me.To be addressed at a later time 
1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

daytonalo

I follow you , but I think you in a state of disillusion , the car is worth what it is worth, period  The general public and the person that purchases your car will restore it , and not look at it for twenty years ! . Make no mistake you will make money , bit no way will this car as is bring 150 k , your dreaming ! There is very much to say about a car that is untouched , but wake up, it deserves and demands a 50 k res-to , that said , to most people it is rusty hunk of poop think  its current state .

Aero426

Has the bidding wound up yet?  What number is it at, or did it end at?

hemigeno

Quote from: DougSchellinger on September 28, 2006, 09:36:27 AM
Has the bidding wound up yet?  What number is it at, or did it end at?

I think it ended at $88,100 (reserve not met).

abodyjoe

Quote from: daytonalo on September 21, 2006, 11:25:46 AM
Not a bad profit , I heard the car was bought  for about half of what a new 426 crate Hemi sells for , back in the late 80,s


  it was bought around 1987 for $7000...  ended at 88,000 and didn't hit reserve..  wonder what the reserve was...

nascarxx29

I sought advice from many mopar based individuals in this hobby and mopar sources that currently own and have owned several wingcars.And they had seen my car and suggested not budging from the figure we arrived at.The money that was used to purchase the daytona .Came from another car a replica 70 daytona. intrade for my yellow 440 superbird needing large amounts of work. I had picked up from sold funds that arrived from parting out that low mile damaged 440-6 superbird .That was a total loss.I wonder what a low under 20'000 original 440-6 pack superbird is worth now adays .That I wont ever see any profits from.along with a 440-4 speed superbird.I forfeited 2 wingcars and there todays current worth to have landed this one I own.I also cut loose and left behind in my move backeast from TX my 70 RT F4 green green interior that was heavily optioned. At the same time I had the 440-6 pack superbird .That Shanker in TX has and is giving a resto and a good home to.
1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

Troy

It's worth exactly what someone is willing to pay for it. It's a simple concept yet everyone seems to be a critic. If you don't agree with the price then don't buy the car. The seller will either keep it or lower the price. That's the way the free market works.

My cars currently cost me about $600 per month to license, store, and insure before I even spend a dime on parts or labor. That's $144,000 over 20 years not counting the purchase price, oil changes, tires, or gas. I don't think all of them combined will bring quite that much when I'm ready to sell!

daytonalo: I expect to see your Hemi Daytona clone for sale when finished for the exact total of your receipts - not a penny more. What? You want to make a profit? How dare you! If these cars were still worth $8,000 then no one would be making clones.

(this is my subtle way of hinting that the personal attacks are getting a bit out of hand)

Troy
Sarcasm detector, that's a real good invention.

daytonalo

Troy take it easy , I never said anything about making a profit or too much profit , all I said that someone would have to smoking crack to give Dave 150k for a car that needs a 60k res-to , just my opinion . We can voice our opinions on here cant we ? I think you guys need a hug ! ;)

Troy

Yes, opinions are perfectly fine. Just be careful with how you say it (and the name calling bit). If someone told me five years ago that someone would pay upwards of a million dollars for a Cuda then I'd have thought they were off their rocker as well but that's the state of today's market. Can't blame a guy for trying. The buyer is the one to question though - not the seller.

Just for the record, if you would like to sell me a Daytona clone real cheap it would make me happy... :D

Troy
Sarcasm detector, that's a real good invention.

daytonalo

on that note , I have 10 k in the engine alone and will complete this car for 30 k  sorry if I pissed you off ! :icon_smile_big:

BigBlockSam

I won't be wronged, I wont be Insulted and I wont be laid a hand on. I don't do these things to others, and I require the same from them.

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nascarxx29

As Troy mentioning the extreme amounts of dollars for hemi cars mainly the ebodies.When you look at it as this.A hemi car was a motor option to a existing platform car and the prexisting developed in 1964-1971 426 hemi engine retrofitted in.Along with reinforcements where as needed.You take in the amount of wind tunnel research aero engineers.Sub contractors like creative industries.That made the special required aero body parts...You end up with a specialized nascar factory built car in limited numbers for competetion on the race circuit. How many hemi ebodies took the checkered flag and earned there pedigree race after race.The only claim to fame to the high priced hemi ebodies is lesser numbers of them were made .If they made only 7 to 9 daytona superbirds total production followed along by its racing heritage.They would probably would be as high as the later hemi ebodies as they command today
1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

nascarxx29

Its a dilema to choose between your favorite car.And home shopping.We may have come up with a idea thats been done before to remedy the situation



1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

daytonalo

Lets get to work !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Aero426

Quote from: daytonaloTroy take it easy , I never said anything about making a profit or too much profit... ,

Quote from: daytonalo on September 21, 2006, 11:25:46 AM
Not a bad profit , I heard the car was bought  for about half of what a new 426 crate Hemi sells for , back in the late 80,s

Ummm....  just in case you forgot what you typed the other day.    If that wasn't a thinly veiled shot at Dave, I don't know what is.   

Charger_Fan

I forgot all about that Super-camper-bird! :smilielol:

The Aquamax...yes, this bike spent 2 nights underwater one weekend. (Not my doing), but it gained the name, and has since become pseudo-famous. :)

nascarxx29

That R Myers car was around when I lived in TX
1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

daytonalo

WONDER WHO THE NEW MYSTERY MEMBER IS ? ???

wingcars6970

I see we have a new member welcome Mr psilak

daytonalo

What is your uncle's first name ?

69Q54spdcharger

Hi Nascarxx29-- I actaully   thought your car was a great canidate for a resto--having all the paperwork and 1 owner history's very valuable but that really adds little value ---it just makes your car more attractive to buyers cuz they know its would be easier to sell. Again its a great piece,  but it needs a easy $60-80k for the correct type of resto--and please remember that as with the housing and stock markets collectables like your piece fluctuate accordingly. I think you should sell the car real soon because the market for these cars will not correct itself for at least 3-5 years. It`s dropping dramatically every day, just look at the increased inventory.  Remember what was driving the market were  all the dealers, and the auctions that are rigged just to inflate the price of all cars including Daytona`s.People have caught on and thats why your car stopped at $88k.  My point is --is that your car is very rusty and needs alot of work, come on , 150k for a rusty car, in a declinng market is crazy--are you on crack.  :rotz:
 

daytonalo

I think a jay Leno type would have no problem paying that for his car , it is an awesome unmolested specimen ! If it doesn't sell Dave , my offer still stands . Larry
     

hemigeno

Quote from: 68fourspdcharger on October 01, 2006, 07:51:30 PM
My point is --is that your car is very rusty and needs alot of work, come on , 150k for a rusty car, in a declinng market is crazy--are you on crack.  :rotz:

68fourspdcharger...

If you don't like the asking price, don't pay it.

Leave the insults for another board.

Consider this your last warning.

nascarxx29

I sought advice from many mopar based individuals in this hobby and mopar sources that currently own and have owned several wingcars.And they had seen my car and suggested not budging from the figure we arrived at.

I also seen a daytona sold on ebay that was burnt to the ground.That was bought for $40K.And if it only required a $60- 80K resto..Which is not very likely at it was carcass of a car.You would be at $100.000 -$120-000 .Know factoring that your figures only includes paint and body etc metal work .I see additional expenses if these details are not included in your estimate ranging from 1/2 of year ones catalog refurbishing items .Emblems tires seals chrome exhaust etc.Before engine trans brakes susp parts expenses .

Then there another one on ebay last I looked it was reaching $80K mark

This is an original 1969 Dodge Charger Daytona.  It is an original 440, 4 speed Dana car with 354 gears.  The {{{440 is no longer in the car}}}; there is now a 426 Hemi in its place. The dash tag, fender tag, front radiator support, and rear trunk lid numbers are all matching.  The {{{{Broadcast Sheet or Build Sheet, as some call it, is no longer there}}}.


This one was $109.00 K.Give it a $80K resto.$189.000.It was seen and given this review at the mopar nats

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Hey Geno,I looked that Daytona over,at the Nats. I have fixed some rusty New England Chargers,over the years,{{{{{but that one is a little scary}}}}! It's not that it is not restorable,but not only do you have to deal with the rust issues,but you also have to undo the major hack job,that was done to the car! I think the more that you get into it,the more hacked things you would find! The only thing scarier than the thought of restoring that car,was the {{{{six figure asking price!}}} That scared the hell out of me!


My car has never been assessed to be a rust bucket.As I would define a worst case scenerio rusty mopar .Having to have required floors and structual rust is what I define as major.Which issues it doesnt have or ever had .Typical mopar trunk leaks to trunk floor battery tray common area from venting acid fumes from battery.And exposure surface rust from where paint came off is the only issues I see that need attention   
1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

69Q54spdcharger

Their not insults, their cold hard facts. Sorry bout the crack comment. That was not nessessary.

BigBlockSam

i really dig your car. you don't see unmolested wing cars like that around any  more. when i saw your car come up for sale on ebay. i went through my finances and quickly realized that, again , this wing car was out of my reach. don't give up. timing is everything on ebay. put it up again. you'll get your price. Rene
I won't be wronged, I wont be Insulted and I wont be laid a hand on. I don't do these things to others, and I require the same from them.

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hemigeno

Quote from: 68fourspdcharger on October 02, 2006, 09:32:43 AM
Their not insults, their cold hard facts. Sorry bout the crack comment. That was not nessessary.

Of course not all of what you had to say was an insult.  However, it is a huge stretch to classify all your comments as "cold hard facts".

Some things are a given.  Dave's car has rust issues.  Are they major?  Probably not.  Will it take a lot of time, effort and money to fix them right?  Yes. 

Much beyond that, a lot of what you had to say earlier is speculation on your part.  If you have a crystal ball and know exactly what the future holds, there are a lot of other questions I would ask you besides what the price of a Daytona is going to be in 3 to 5 years.  You have to admit that it is your OPINION (not a cold hard fact) that the market for Daytonas is "declining".  It may be declining some at the moment, but that does not mean that it is not going to spike right back up.  My comment doesn't mean that it WILL spike back up.  I don't know, and neither do you.  We're all entitled to our own opinions, but they shouldn't be passed off as "cold hard facts."

The problem comes in when a guy is castigated for an action he takes (in this instance Dave listing his car for sale at a price he feels is warranted) based on someone else's opinion of that action.  Only two people are involved in determining what the value of any object is:  The buyer and the seller.  Everyone else is just a spectator, and that includes myself.

You stated earlier that the history and paperwork added little value - but that just means it adds little value to you (again, just your opinion).  There are a LOT of collectors who consider such history and paperwork to be extremely important in high dollar car sales.  PM me and I can give you names of some such buyers if you wish.

I would ask you a question - are you trying to cast stones in Dave's direction, hoping to influence him to lower his asking price?

Quote from: 68fourspdcharger on October 01, 2006, 09:18:06 AM
I am looking for a solid 68-70 charger 440 4speed with documentation and all numbers matching. I am also interested in a 70-71 cuda or challenger 4 speed with all numbers matching and documentation. What I am really searching for is a 69 Daytona 440 automatic or 4 speed that has all numbers matching and has documentation. I will buy it either unrestored or restored. Also, if anyone happens to know of a 70 superbird, limelight green, 4speed with documentation and numbers matching please let me know. If anyone knows of anything for sale, please let me know. Thanks for all the help

:shruggy: :scratchchin: :no:



69Q54spdcharger

True, but the market is declining, and you can tell just by looking at how many cars are on the market. And on the quote, i dont want a rusty one that needs a total restoration, i want a survivor car. So, Im not saying that i am trying to lower his price. 150k for a rusty wing car is quite high, ask any mopar expert.

BigBlockSam

QuoteThere are a LOT of collectors who consider such history and paperwork to be extremely important 
:yesnod:

i passed on a bird because it had no buildsheet , fender tag or documentation. i think on wing cars thats very important. thats the whole thing with them there history. Rene
I won't be wronged, I wont be Insulted and I wont be laid a hand on. I don't do these things to others, and I require the same from them.

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hemigeno

Quote from: 68fourspdcharger on October 02, 2006, 12:21:37 PM
True, but the market is declining, and you can tell just by looking at how many cars are on the market. And on the quote, i dont want a rusty one that needs a total restoration, i want a survivor car. So, Im not saying that i am trying to lower his price. 150k for a rusty wing car is quite high, ask any mopar expert.

There are always a number of Daytonas for sale at any given time, so it is hard to draw any conclusions from that factoid alone.  You can look at past issues of the WingedWarriors newsletters from as far back as the mid '70s and see that the cars do change hands regularly.  Personally, I don't view the number on the market as abnormally high or low.  There does always seem to be a flurry of Daytonas that hit the market right after the B-J auction, although I do agree that most of those cars do not seem to sell.  A whole lot of "collector level" cars trade hands privately and we never get a true glimpse of their values.  My guess is that these private sale prices do tend to have an impact on auction sale prices, since some of the same deep pocket collectors are regulars at the circus-type auctions.

The asking price of Dave's car may seem high to you, but that opinion is colored by what your estimation of the Daytona marketplace is and what direction it is headed long-term.  Others may disagree.  Would you pay $150k for a '71 Hemi Cuda Convertible in the same condition?  I personally know a gentleman who sold a '71 Hemi Cuda convertible for seven figures.  Did he sell his car for a reasonable price?  Depends on your perspective.  If you think $1,000,000+ for a car is too high a price because you wouldn't pay that much, then my friend got a really good deal when he sold it.  If you consider that the market is now at least 3x higher than when he sold it just a few years ago, then he got a really bad deal when he sold it. 

My point is, you consider the asking price of Dave's car too high based on what your expectations of future Daytona prices are.  That brings us back to my original reply to your posts:

If you think it's too high, don't pay it.

Oh, and Dave's car is a survivor.  The pool of cars that will suit your defined tastes (original/unrestored/survivor, numbers matching, with documentation) is extremely small, and I think you will be disappointed when you see the asking prices of the ones who do fit your criteria.  They will probably be priced much higher, since there are so few of them still left and fewer yet actually for sale.  Elmer Duellman's Green/Black Daytona with 600 something miles on it is probably still available at $675,000.

Good luck with your search, no matter how it turns out.


hotrod98

Quote from: BigBlockSam on October 02, 2006, 12:47:20 PM
QuoteThere are a LOT of collectors who consider such history and paperwork to be extremely important
:yesnod:

i passed on a bird because it had no buildsheet , fender tag or documentation. i think on wing cars thats very important. thats the whole thing with them there history. Rene


But...would you pass on it now?
At this point, if I found a halfway decent deal on a real bird, I would buy it. I'm regretting more and more not buying the Romeo car last summer when I first saw it in Mount Ida, Arkansas. I was just not aware that they were going up in value so fast or I probably would own it now.


Normal is an illusion. What is normal for the spider is chaos for the fly.
Charles Addams

BigBlockSam

i still have his telphone #. i wonder if he still has the fcar?   :scratchchin:

$60000 is alot to pay for a running project.  Rene
I won't be wronged, I wont be Insulted and I wont be laid a hand on. I don't do these things to others, and I require the same from them.

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Aero426

I really don't see demand for Daytonas declining at all.   With only 500 cars available,  there never seems to be a glut of them on the market. 

hotrod98

People that think that there will somehow come a time when these cars can be bought cheaper are only fooling themselves. Every year...more people...less cars. The demand can only go higher as will the price. The only possible way that these cars will go down in value is if there is a depression. In that case no one would have the money to buy it no matter how low the price goes. I think our main priority at that point would be food, clothing and shelter, not daytonas and superbirds.


Normal is an illusion. What is normal for the spider is chaos for the fly.
Charles Addams

Aero426

The other thing is that in the event of an economic downturn, those who are well off tend to be affected less.  I realize I'm stereotyping here, but the well heeled musclecar owner isn't likely to be sent into the bread line.    Divorce or death are more likely scenarios to cars coming on the market at a discount.


OneBadSuperbird

I was sent the link to this thread and just spent the last thirty minutes reading through it.  All's I can say is that was thirty minutes I'll never get back.  I almost thought I was at Mopa...oh never mind.

Oh, and by the way, $100K max and dropping for the car in today's market.  $150K is waaaaaay out there.
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69Q54spdcharger

I would pay more than daves asking for a original survivor car...his is not a survivor because it needs a restoration for it to even be shown.

hemigeno

Quote from: OneBadSuperbird on October 02, 2006, 04:59:29 PM
I was sent the link to this thread and just spent the last thirty minutes reading through it.  All's I can say is that was thirty minutes I'll never get back.  I almost thought I was at Mopa...oh never mind.


Sorry to have disappointed you, John.  :wave:

Beep Beep Dave

Wow this thread took a turn for the worse....hemigeno all your posts on this topic have been bang on!!!

Dave
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OneBadSuperbird

Quote from: hemigeno on October 02, 2006, 05:23:06 PMSorry to have disappointed you, John.  :wave:
No worries Geno, just a whole lot of nergy being expended here for what basically really oesn't even matter.  In the end, it is what it is and if itsells. it sells.  No sense in everybody getting all worked up over it.
:wave:

Oh hey, have the haters here come to their senses and accepted the new Charger for the truly awesome machine that it is?  I've had mine for just over a year and 13,000 miles and I love it as much or more than the day I bought it...and it's just a V-6 SXT!
:boogie:
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hotrod98

Along the same line, I love my wife's Daytona Ram pickup. I drove it for the first time on the trip to St. Louis for the MMW last month. Man, at 90 mph, you hit the gas and it accelerates like crazy. The sound of those borlas was like music. That's the driveline that I'm putting in the Superbird clone. That should make one nice driver. Even nicer than my fuel injected cuda.  ;D


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Charles Addams

OneBadSuperbird

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OneBadSuperbird

Quote from: hotrod98 on October 02, 2006, 07:05:44 PM
Along the same line, I love my wife's Daytona Ram pickup. I drove it for the first time on the trip to St. Louis for the MMW last month. Man, at 90 mph, you hit the gas and it accelerates like crazy. The sound of those borlas was like music. That's the driveline that I'm putting in the Superbird clone. That should make one nice driver. Even nicer than my fuel injected cuda.  ;D
That's awesome!  Congrats on the Daytona Ram and good luck with the 5.7 Hemi for the Bird clone.  I was talking to a Oakland University professor at Las Vegas this spring about the 5.7 Hemi '66 Charger him and his students had out there and he showed me just how easy retrofitting everything for the new and far technologically superior 5.7 Hemi into an old school ride is.
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hotrod98

I kind of got my practice in when I installed a 5.9 liter with the 4 speed od tranny out of a 95 Dodge truck into my wife's 73 cuda. I used the truck harness and kept the cruise control. Man that car is like driving a brand new car. It will burn the tires off and still get 25 mpg. I'm lucky to have Street and Performance close by. I met the guy that makes their wiring harnesses at a car show this summer and he said that when I was ready, he would make my harness so that I can keep the cruise on the 5.7 as well. I'll probably end up building him a daytona clone eventually. I've got someone that wants to buy my fresh 440-6 motor so I guess I'll end up doing the 5.7 thing to my Daytona clone. I'm starting to like this new-age high tech stuff.


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OneBadSuperbird

Quote from: hotrod98 on October 02, 2006, 07:37:28 PM
I kind of got my practice in when I installed a 5.9 liter with the 4 speed od tranny out of a 95 Dodge truck into my wife's 73 cuda. I used the truck harness and kept the cruise control. Man that car is like driving a brand new car. It will burn the tires off and still get 25 mpg. I'm lucky to have Street and Performance close by. I met the guy that makes their wiring harnesses at a car show this summer and he said that when I was ready, he would make my harness so that I can keep the cruise on the 5.7 as well. I'll probably end up building him a daytona clone eventually. I've got someone that wants to buy my fresh 440-6 motor so I guess I'll end up doing the 5.7 thing to my Daytona clone. I'm starting to like this new-age high tech stuff.
That's way. way cool.  A lot of people are intimidated by technology but it can be a really awesome thing.  The one main difference in the 5.7 Hemi from the 5.9 is gonna be the drive-by-wire ETC (electronic throttle control).  Once ya get that all sorted out, put the hammer down and have some fun!
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nascarxx29

I wouldnt think a purple 71 hemi cuda convertible shell as it started life .Looking like a wheel barrow .Would be a million dollar and up car.As far as 69 daytonas go there is a limited of number of them out there and to choose from.And if you do happen to find a excellant well preserved low mile car.As mentioned Elmers D is $675.000 and has around 600 miles
1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

nascarxx29

Ive heard about this one in WI of Elmer D from years of being in my club suppose to have close to original low 500 miles on it on this 440 daytona.Then I found this quote on the other mopar board((The Elmer D original owner, [[[[[[[[[[[[[[original 309 mile Daytona]]]]]]]]]]]] was delivered to the dealer in F6 green w/white wing, strange thing is that the fender tag says it's X9 black w/red wing!)) .Then I have a Pa car of Dennis S thats a 440 1700 mile car and being used as reference in a car magazine.Tim S of PA old 440 daytona now Bob M in Ohio was a MCG low mileage feature car 1700 miles or some.Followed by the Otis Chandler Brown 4 speed hemi daytona with 5000 miles on it .Formerly owned by Pa Don K then to Greg J to Otis Chandler hands .Restored by Roger Gibson.Now Tim W car of ALThen the Va dealership Dressler motors 6000 mile 440 daytona was also a magazine reference story car feature.Then Larry B of IN his old 440 dealer installed 6 pack daytona now in MI of Browney M has 6700 at the time it was sold and later repainted and restored back to R4 red.Then NJ Chris S MCG featured daytona had 17'000 miles on a Vance Cummings of Mi restored 440 daytona .About the same miles for PA Barry Kanicks daytona 17'000 440 daytona.My 440 daytona has 22.000 on it.The NY B5 blue MCG featured car of B Cards had 23'000 miles on it.Followed by a Y2 440 daytona from NY with 22'000 Same goes for another NJ car of Joe G all chromed 440 to a 426 22'000 miles or so .Then a B5 Newport RI 440 car I think has  11'000 miles on it as described here on the board in the daytona with vinyl top post.These are recorded in my notes over the years and shows .Ive been to so the may have changed hands and mileages may have varied since I recorded them last So if you can furnish anymore or update with a new one.So I have one 5000 mile hemi daytona and the rest are 440-s. The other daytona related compilage. I did a while ago was daytona per state totals
69 Daytona list per state totals going from the current standing list number to date #501 cars from pages supplied in my club newsletter that shows the new car shipments for 69 daytonas and locations shipped to Including serial numbers and dealer number and dealer location. Also shows what states did and did not recieve a 69 daytona .Starting with the 440s AL-11 AZ-5 AR-2 CANADA 45 CA-38 CO-12 CON-2 DE-1 FL-16 GA-16 HAWAII-2 ID-1 IL-22 IN-21 IA-3 KAN-7 KEN-5 LOU-7 ME-1 MD-2 MASS-5 MI-26 MINN-3 MISS-1 MO-21 MONT-1 NEB-4 NV-2 NH-2 NJ-6 NY-26 NC-13 NDKT-1 SDKT-4.OH-25 OK-9 ORE-7 PA-23 RI-3 SC-4 TN-5 TX-20 UT-1 VT-1 VA-13 WA ST-7 WA-DC-2 W VA-1 WI-9-The 426 states AZ-1 CANADA-5 CA-7 CO-3 GA-1 IL-1 IN-1 KAN-1 MD-1 MI-2 MO-1 NY-1 NC-1 OH-3 PA-1 SC-1 TX-3 WVA-1 WI-1 .Total #501 465- 440 Hemi-36 for the 47 states 1 line was unreadable unknown state. 2 cars were 440 dodge exec cars with no dealer location in house cars and figured in with the MI total.Only #3 states didnt recieve 69 Daytona on this current list Alaska-New Mexico-Wyoming .
1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

nascarxx29

My girlfriend Annie was bored yesterday. She took the shipment list and put it on a spreadsheet and found some interesting errors.
car #490 was found to be listed with an incorrect vin after matching it with the job# that was incorrect.As we just happen to first hand knowledge of that car in our area
#492 is on the list twice with 2 different vins
#131 and 154 are duplicate vins shipped to 2 different states
#17 and 364 are duplicate vins both shipped to Texas
# 64 and 470 are duplicate vins shipped to 2 different states.
#92 and 115 are blank lines.
We were only able to find 37 hemi cars on the list.
Could be human error as the original shipment list was handwritten and nearly illegible in some places.

I am now able to sit at the computer and sort the cars by state, ship # or vin. Don't I have a good girlfriend?.You can sort all kinds of variables.You can see at a glance cars with consecutive vins in some cases went to the same state.You have the vin and the shippment list corresponding number next to each other.for a quick look up.Already known fact most Canada car had the 414*** vins and seem to be alot of 610 buildates .In some cases CA cars shared the 410*** vin
1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701