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Kelsey Hayes Recall Wheels

Started by 69_500, October 27, 2006, 09:35:56 AM

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69_500

Just curious but what was the actual date that these wheels were recalled? And also out of curiousity what is the latest production date anyone knows of a car actually being ordered with these wheels? I don't have but a handful of 500's that I've seen that were ordered with these wheels. Personally I love the way they look, and think they look great on a 500.

Ghoste

The info I have immediately at hand states it as being September 13, 1968.  For some reason I had always thought it was just a little further out than that?

69_500

September 13th, hmmmmm, I only know of a handful of 500's that have a build date earlier than that. So is it possible to have ordered a car say on September 9th, that would be built on say October 20th and it have had them on it?

Ghoste

If I had to guess, I'd say no.  I can't see them still being supplied to the line or even using stock on hand once a recall notice came down.

hemigeno

Here is the document I had on the Recall Wheels that shows the 9/13 date Ghoste already mentioned.  I would have posted it sooner, but as I was resizing it to post here, I accidentally saved the smaller version in place of the full size version.   :flame:  I was hoping maybe someone else had the same document and would post it so that I could re-save the full-size version.   :rotz:

I don't know when they stopped putting the wheels on Assembly Line cars, but I am fairly confident they wouldn't have taken any orders for cars with the W23 option after the 13th.  The document (as hard to read as it is now) does say that the Assembly Plants had already changed out some cars to the replacement wheels, so it looks like the change was in the works even before the 13th.  There may have been very few cars which were actually shipped with those wheels, and fewer still that were really driven off the dealer's lot equipped that way.

Charger_Fan

That being the case, it's interesting to see as many cars as I've seen (pics of) on the show circuit wearing them.

The Aquamax...yes, this bike spent 2 nights underwater one weekend. (Not my doing), but it gained the name, and has since become pseudo-famous. :)

Just 6T9 CHGR

With the repro's out now you'll be seing more ;)
Chris' '69 Charger R/T


Charger_Fan


The Aquamax...yes, this bike spent 2 nights underwater one weekend. (Not my doing), but it gained the name, and has since become pseudo-famous. :)

nascarxx29

I only had 1 original recall wheel it was a 15 in with a 68 date on it.Later I turned up a stash of nos recall lug nuts




1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

THE CHARGER PUNK

in an older mopar mag(mid 90's) there is an article about a  yellow 69 barracuda S convertible with the kelsey hayes re-call wheels , and if you look further into the article, it says the car was ordered in Vancouver ,British columbia and discovered in North vancouver,B.C. , kinda of a cool story as that is where i was born and raised, and still live , my dad recalls seeing this car 2 as a street thumper. srry 2 hi-jack, just thought it had soem relavence with the wheels and all , GO ON WITH THE THREAD :icon_smile_big:-MATT

Ghoste

Quote from: CHARGER_FAN on October 27, 2006, 04:28:11 PM
That being the case, it's interesting to see as many cars as I've seen (pics of) on the show circuit wearing them.

The other thing too would be that they are a very distinctive looking wheel and you'd notice them immediately.  If you saw 300 cars at a show and 200 of them had Magnum 500's, and 90 had Torq Thrusts and the remaining 10 had recalls, it would seem like a lot. (10 out of 300 probably is a lot but I just use the numbers as a way to say they stand out in a sea of sameness)

69_500

I've only seen a handful of cars with the recall wheels on them at various shows over the years, and your right they definately stand out. You notice it right away.

65post

I like the recalls on the 500 the best.I see a set of NOS at this years Mopar fest ( New Hamburg Ont. ) for a hefty $6800.00
Previously owned Daytona XX29L9B423239 - f8 - white int. - power windows.

69_500

65post do you have any more information on that car in the photo?

R4 red, white interior, 4 speed, white tail stripe? Nice looking ride. No headrest. I'm guessing on the 4 speed part, it appears to be a shifter sticking up in the photo.

Shakey

Quote from: 65post on October 29, 2006, 08:23:09 PM
I like the recalls on the 500 the best.I see a set of NOS at this years Mopar fest ( New Hamburg Ont. ) for a hefty $6800.00

I saw those also.

69_500

That is a hefty price for wheels, but then again that is a very clean example.

65post

Quote from: 69_500 on October 29, 2006, 09:46:19 PM
65post do you have any more information on that car in the photo?

R4 red, white interior, 4 speed, white tail stripe? Nice looking ride. No headrest. I'm guessing on the 4 speed part, it appears to be a shifter sticking up in the photo.
Sorry 69 500 I do not have any info on that 500.I just have the photos of it.Here are 2 more.
Previously owned Daytona XX29L9B423239 - f8 - white int. - power windows.

69_500

Thanks for the other two shots. I think I can identify the car now.

I don't think its a HEMI 500, but rather a 440 powered 500 with a crate HEMI in it. And I believe those are the repro Kelsey Hayes Wheels on it. If I'm not mistaken that would be the car that was formerly owned by Denny Guest.


Carl1

 ??? I think the wheels for $6800. are repops also, or were offered as after market by Kelsey Hayes. The real recall wheels had beauty rings, not the chrome rim as shown in the photo. It's possible someone had some Kelsey Hayes boxes and some repop wheels in them. If they came from Mopar they would probably have been in Mopar packaging, but probably would never have reached a dealers parts department, although they undoubtedly came as an option on cars built before Sept 13/ 68. I think they look great, but I appreciate them a lot more on a correct build date car, just my 2 cents.

65post

Quote from: Carl1 on October 31, 2006, 07:48:13 PM
??? I think the wheels for $6800. are repops also, or were offered as after market by Kelsey Hayes. The real recall wheels had beauty rings, not the chrome rim as shown in the photo. It's possible someone had some Kelsey Hayes boxes and some repop wheels in them. If they came from Mopar they would probably have been in Mopar packaging, but probably would never have reached a dealers parts department, although they undoubtedly came as an option on cars built before Sept 13/ 68. I think they look great, but I appreciate them a lot more on a correct build date car, just my 2 cents.
I think your right Carl1 about those set of recalls in the photo now that I think about it. I had a chance to buy a set years back and they did not have the chrome  just the plain steal with the trim rings.
Previously owned Daytona XX29L9B423239 - f8 - white int. - power windows.

nascarxx29

Didnt the ones that went on the cars have trim.And ones that were manafactured in the same time.That were available by the aftermarker specialty equipment suppliers speed shops etc.Not have the trim on them.And the current ones offered by speciality wheels differ somewhere in there construction.From the originals of there time .The current lug nuts are not even close as compared to the original ones Ive seen
1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

69_500

There is a gentleman I know of that has a car that came with the police style rims, with dog dish hubcaps and had the Kelsey hayes recall beauty trim rims on the car. Now that is an odd combination. My thinking is that it was ordered with Kelsey Hayes, shipped that way, then the rims were recalled they put on the dog dish and added the dress up rings.

Rolling_Thunder

who makes the repop wheels again ?
1968 Dodge Charger - 6.1L Hemi / 6-speed / 3.55 Sure Grip

2013 Dodge Challenger R/T - 5.7L Hemi / 6-speed / 3.73 Limited Slip

1964 Dodge Polara 500 - 440 / 4-speed / 3.91 Sure Grip

1973 Dodge Challenger Rallye - 340 / A-518 / 3.23 Sure Grip

nascarxx29

Specialty wheel Corp out of Oregon
1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

69_500

Have the prices stayed where they were when the repops first came out? I've thought of picking up a set. Didn't they make them in different sized, 16", and 17"