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« on: December 29, 2006, 11:24:10 PM »

Im hoping to do as much of this as I can at home in the garage, so im trying to see what my other options are. 


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« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2006, 11:32:00 PM »

Theres spots like this inside the cowl that worry me too.  Its not rusting through really, but I dont want it to in the future either. 


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« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2006, 12:54:53 AM »

I would be careful blasting roof as its thin metal you'll warp it easily. unless you soda blast it
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« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2006, 08:05:51 AM »

I'd clean all the old headliner glue off with a scraper and some laquer thinner,wire brush the loose rust off and POR-15 the hell out of it.

Done.


Some people will tell you POR-15 is junk, it's too expensive, blah, blah, blah.

All I can say is I've used it on my cars, and my flatbed trailer- it's held up well and stopped the rust.

Last time I bought some it was $40 a quart-a quart goes along way.
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« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2006, 08:52:00 AM »

 iagree

POR15 it. I had the same issue with my 69 SE. I POR15'd it 10 years ago and have no problems.

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« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2006, 09:54:32 AM »

I'd clean all the old headliner glue off with a scraper and some laquer thinner,wire brush the loose rust off and POR-15 the hell out of it.

Done.


Some people will tell you POR-15 is junk, it's too expensive, blah, blah, blah.

All I can say is I've used it on my cars, and my flatbed trailer- it's held up well and stopped the rust.

Last time I bought some it was $40 a quart-a quart goes along way.

im one of the bashers of POR-15 but not because its a bad product, but because some people abuse the stuff and think its a miricle cure instead of doing a good job
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« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2006, 10:58:06 AM »

I media blasted  no complaints, it will show you what you really need done to do the car right.  it cost me $1000 dont know if thats high or not I thought it would be around $750 but they did A nice job the whole car was done engine bay/ jambs /trunk/ top/ floor  if you  had the fund s I would recomond it but I'm not an expert tom
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« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2006, 11:10:01 AM »

Headliner glue? I just replaced my headliner, and many in the past. never seen glue used on bowed liners. what am I missing shruggy
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« Reply #8 on: December 30, 2006, 11:17:34 AM »

Headliner glue? I just replaced my headliner, and many in the past. never seen glue used on bowed liners. what am I missing shruggy

The glue holds on the headliner sound deadener (jute padding), to the roof. Not the actual headliner.

That is a perfect job for POR-15. It's not exposed to the elements, sunlight, etc. Hit it with a wire brush, clean as directed per POR-15's instructions, & brush away. It will all be hidden by interior pieces.
BTW, I did my entire undercarriage after it was sandblasted with POR-15, I don't think I used a full quart either. It goes a very long way.

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« Reply #9 on: December 30, 2006, 11:21:49 AM »

Headliner glue? I just replaced my headliner, and many in the past. never seen glue used on bowed liners. what am I missing shruggy

i think hes refering to the insulation pieces above the headliner
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« Reply #10 on: December 30, 2006, 12:47:27 PM »

Headliner glue? I just replaced my headliner, and many in the past. never seen glue used on bowed liners. what am I missing shruggy


Whoops!  I meant the headliner pad/insulation glue...sorry Embarrassed
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« Reply #11 on: December 30, 2006, 12:57:48 PM »

Por 15 is great for trunk floors, compartment floors and other areas which aren't cosmetic. Under hood Id blast it and see how bad it is. If its just pitted then Id use filler and go on from there
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« Reply #12 on: December 30, 2006, 02:27:25 PM »

Headliner glue? I just replaced my headliner, and many in the past. never seen glue used on bowed liners. what am I missing shruggy


Whoops!  I meant the headliner pad/insulation glue...sorry Embarrassed

That's ok. I should have known what you meant. My wife (the Upholsterer) gave me one of those looks Roll Eyes when I asked her about it...I should have stated  I "helped" her with the headliners.  And apparently wasn't paying attention rotz

Sorry no help here with the glue removal issue. most of the headliners we worked on were in allready prepped and painted cars. or in new enough cars that removal of the insulation was not needed.

With that said. If 3M makes a glue remover. It'll be the best. IMO. Always had great luck with their products.

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« Reply #13 on: December 30, 2006, 04:18:42 PM »

So as long as I clean it up real well, what I can get at anyways...  And then POR-15 in all the cracks.  I should be ok?  I was hoping I could do that but I wasnt sure and I dont want to have to come back and fix it later...

Also, what would you recommend for the bottom side?  it was undercoated and overall is in pretty good shape.  Should I remove all the old undercoating?  Its old and flaky I hate to leave it there.  If I scrape it off then can I just sand and POR-15 that too?  Will I be able to undercoat over the top of that?



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« Reply #14 on: December 30, 2006, 06:24:43 PM »

i use rust bullet , very similar to por 15. works great and you can apply it with a brush . Rene
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« Reply #15 on: December 30, 2006, 06:51:17 PM »

i use rust bullet , very similar to por 15. works great and you can apply it with a brush . Rene


Just to clarify my previous post - I brush the POR-15 on. Wink

And you DO NOT want to get it on your skin and let it dry-you can wash it off with lacquer thinner while it's wet, but if you let it set up on your skin-it will be with you for WEEKS!

Rubber gloves and eye protection are HIGHLY recommended  yesnod

 'Course I usually wind up with a set of black fingers for about a month after I use the stuff Roll Eyes

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« Reply #16 on: December 30, 2006, 10:05:22 PM »

yea thats strong stuff
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« Reply #17 on: December 31, 2006, 06:44:10 AM »

"...Also, what would you recommend for the bottom side?..."

This depends on how full of a resto you want to do. I had undercoating on my 69 and did NOT remove it however I regret that decision now. It's far easier with the trans and exhaust out. I'd do it now if I had it to do over again...

Just my 2 cents.
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