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Re: Restoration of my B5 Blue 4Spd Charger 500... Blue Thunder debuts...Finally!

Started by xs29j8Bullitt, September 16, 2007, 05:39:22 PM

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xs29j8Bullitt

Quote from: 71ChallengeHer on September 17, 2007, 08:21:31 AM
Can't wait to see the pics. You have a lot of great Mopars. :2thumbs:

Thanks Jackie!  I hope to have it sent off to the paint shop in 2-3 weeks.  I will try to get the car ready for the paint shop owner to have a look at it in my shop by this coming weekend.  If all goes well, they would pick it up soon afterward... :2thumbs:

Allen
After 8 years of downsizing, whats left...
1968 Charger R/T, Automatic, 426 Hemi
1968 Polara 4Dr Sdn, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1968 Polara 4Dr HT, Automatic, 383
1969 Charger 500, 4 Speed, 440 Magnum
1969 Daytona, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1969 Road Runner, 4 Speed, 426 Hemi
1970 `Cuda, Automatic, 440-6BBL
1970 Challenger T/A, Automatic, 340 6 Pack
2004 Ram, Automatic, 5.7L Hemi
2009 Challenger SRT8, Automatic, 6.1L Hemi
<This Space Reserved for a 2016 Challenger SRT Hellcat, 8Sp Automatic,

nascarxx29

I saved these pictures on my computer.When I thought your daytona looked B3 to me


1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

xs29j8Bullitt

Quote from: nascarxx29 on September 17, 2007, 06:52:14 PM
I saved these pictures on my computer.When I thought your daytona looked B3 to me

The original color of my Daytona was R4 Red, but it was repainted some GM color in the 1970s...

You can see a little red peeking out near the end of the bumper in the picture that you posted, and the R4 is even more visible on the "A" pillar in picture 0085 that I posted above (I removed the "A" pillar mouldings when I had the car in a public storage).

Below is part of the original data plate from my Daytona.

Allen
After 8 years of downsizing, whats left...
1968 Charger R/T, Automatic, 426 Hemi
1968 Polara 4Dr Sdn, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1968 Polara 4Dr HT, Automatic, 383
1969 Charger 500, 4 Speed, 440 Magnum
1969 Daytona, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1969 Road Runner, 4 Speed, 426 Hemi
1970 `Cuda, Automatic, 440-6BBL
1970 Challenger T/A, Automatic, 340 6 Pack
2004 Ram, Automatic, 5.7L Hemi
2009 Challenger SRT8, Automatic, 6.1L Hemi
<This Space Reserved for a 2016 Challenger SRT Hellcat, 8Sp Automatic,

Highbanked Hauler

  Hey is that 500 an SE by any chance? I am still looking for the build sheet to mine!!

       Al
69 Charger 500, original owner  
68 Charger former parts car in process of rebuilding
92 Cummins Turbo Diesel
04 PT Cruiser

xs29j8Bullitt

Quote from: Highbanked Hauler on September 17, 2007, 07:38:19 PM
  Hey is that 500 an SE by any chance? I am still looking for the build sheet to mine!!

       Al

No, its not an SE.  The broadcast sheet that I found in the car was for a T5 colored Hemi Charger 500... :o

Did your car have any broadcast sheet?... looking for mine too!

Allen
After 8 years of downsizing, whats left...
1968 Charger R/T, Automatic, 426 Hemi
1968 Polara 4Dr Sdn, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1968 Polara 4Dr HT, Automatic, 383
1969 Charger 500, 4 Speed, 440 Magnum
1969 Daytona, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1969 Road Runner, 4 Speed, 426 Hemi
1970 `Cuda, Automatic, 440-6BBL
1970 Challenger T/A, Automatic, 340 6 Pack
2004 Ram, Automatic, 5.7L Hemi
2009 Challenger SRT8, Automatic, 6.1L Hemi
<This Space Reserved for a 2016 Challenger SRT Hellcat, 8Sp Automatic,

Highbanked Hauler

 Yes, it is for a B5 blue with blue interior SE  500 so I figure there is a blue se car with my build sheet and I have theirs. It and mine must have been in Creative Ind. at the same time.

    Al
69 Charger 500, original owner  
68 Charger former parts car in process of rebuilding
92 Cummins Turbo Diesel
04 PT Cruiser

xs29j8Bullitt

Quote from: Highbanked Hauler on September 17, 2007, 07:59:54 PM
Yes, it is for a B5 blue with blue interior SE  500 so I figure there is a blue se car with my build sheet and I have theirs. It and mine must have been in Creative Ind. at the same time.

    Al

Yes Al, your chances are better of that being the case due to the blue interior.  With my black interior, the mix-up was probably more messy... many of the cars had black interiors.  I picture a ceiling high stack of black seats to pick from for any given car ready for them!  :P

Allen
After 8 years of downsizing, whats left...
1968 Charger R/T, Automatic, 426 Hemi
1968 Polara 4Dr Sdn, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1968 Polara 4Dr HT, Automatic, 383
1969 Charger 500, 4 Speed, 440 Magnum
1969 Daytona, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1969 Road Runner, 4 Speed, 426 Hemi
1970 `Cuda, Automatic, 440-6BBL
1970 Challenger T/A, Automatic, 340 6 Pack
2004 Ram, Automatic, 5.7L Hemi
2009 Challenger SRT8, Automatic, 6.1L Hemi
<This Space Reserved for a 2016 Challenger SRT Hellcat, 8Sp Automatic,

Highbanked Hauler

  Another thing that helps is there  are only  14 or so SE 500s.  There is a B5 SE in Canada but it has a much later production number than mine. I would guess there more black interior Chargers than any other color so I see how you got a sheet for a bronze car.
69 Charger 500, original owner  
68 Charger former parts car in process of rebuilding
92 Cummins Turbo Diesel
04 PT Cruiser

69bronzeT5

Quote from: xs29j8Bullitt on September 17, 2007, 06:07:28 PM
I hope to have it sent off to the paint shop in 2-3 weeks. 




wow, you just pull it out and its already going to the paint shop in a few weeks? Your making fast progress man! My 69 is hopefully going to the paint/body shop by the end of November...it only took 9 years to get this far.... :icon_smile_blackeye: :icon_smile_big:
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1969 Charger: T5 Copper 383 Automatic
1971 Charger R/T: B5 Blue 440 Automatic
1971 Charger Super Bee: GY3 Citron Yella 440 4-Speed
1970 GTO: 400 Ram Air III 4-Speed
1973 Plymouth Road Runner: 440 Automatic
1973 Plymouth Duster: 340 Automatic

hemi68charger

Quote from: Highbanked Hauler on September 17, 2007, 08:23:06 PM
  Another thing that helps is there  are only  14 or so SE 500s.  There is a B5 SE in Canada but it has a much later production number than mine. I would guess there more black interior Chargers than any other color so I see how you got a sheet for a bronze car.

Dang,, black interior T7... Wish I could find Dana's broadcast sheet....   :'(   T7 with saddle interior.............

Troy
Troy
'69 Charger Daytona 440 auto 4.10 Dana ( now 426 HEMI )
'70 Superbird 426 Hemi auto: Lindsley Bonneville Salt Flat world record holder (220.2mph)
Houston Mopar Club Connection

69_500

Hey Allen you should just get that B5 car of yours up and running, and make it driveable, so that we can swap.  :cheers:

Hope that you do get it done so that I can see it some day though. It was great hanging out with ya the other weekend. You definately have some nice rides, as we all know that I wish I had a daytona even if it was a battle horse as you described yours.

xs29j8Bullitt

Quote from: 69_500 on September 18, 2007, 04:22:01 PM
Hey Allen you should just get that B5 car of yours up and running,...

:yesnod:

Quote from: 69_500 on September 18, 2007, 04:22:01 PM
... and make it driveable,...

:yesnod: :yesnod:

Quote from: 69_500 on September 18, 2007, 04:22:01 PM
... so that we can swap...

:scratchchin: must resist...  Geez Danny, you & Troy are gonna give y'alls cars some sort of complexes... trying to trade 'em off  ;)  Now, go hug your C500!  :lol:

Quote from: 69_500 on September 18, 2007, 04:22:01 PM
Hope that you do get it done so that I can see it some day though. It was great hanging out with ya the other weekend. You definately have some nice rides, as we all know that I wish I had a daytona even if it was a battle horse as you described yours.

I am trying a completely different approach than I have used before... I plan to be a "Project Engineer" of sorts.  We will see how it works out, I am starting by compiling a list of sub-contractors (like Performance Car Graphics, SMS Restorations, HARMS Automotive, Etc.) to do components like the instrument cluster, steering column, AVS carb, Etc.  I will be asking for recommendations after the C500 is sent off to the paint shop.

Yea, I talk a little bad about the Daytona sometimes... kinda like I used to joke about my weight when I was a lot heavier than now.  It seems to prevent someone from showing their grasp of the obvious with "WOW, did ya know its going to take a lot of work to restore that car?..."  ::)  But, it is a real Daytona, and I plan to clean it up a bit after the C500 leaves.  Actually, I plan to clean all my cars up a bit in the next 6 months or so as time & space permit.

I really enjoyed meeting you, Gene, and all the other great aero car fans at MMW!!!  Had a blast!  Thanks again for the ride on the track!  :cheers:

Allen
After 8 years of downsizing, whats left...
1968 Charger R/T, Automatic, 426 Hemi
1968 Polara 4Dr Sdn, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1968 Polara 4Dr HT, Automatic, 383
1969 Charger 500, 4 Speed, 440 Magnum
1969 Daytona, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1969 Road Runner, 4 Speed, 426 Hemi
1970 `Cuda, Automatic, 440-6BBL
1970 Challenger T/A, Automatic, 340 6 Pack
2004 Ram, Automatic, 5.7L Hemi
2009 Challenger SRT8, Automatic, 6.1L Hemi
<This Space Reserved for a 2016 Challenger SRT Hellcat, 8Sp Automatic,

69_500

Don't worry about my C500 having a complex for me wanting to swap it for something else. I think it knew that the day that I picked it up. It is well aware that if someone wanted to swap a project Daytona for it, then it would be heading out of the garage faster than you could say "See ya"

What did you mean by "when my C500 leaves?" You just talking about it going out to be repaired right, not as in leaving to someone else? YOu gotta hang on to these cars, you've had them too long to part with any of them now.

paironines

What's up with the 68 318 Charger that you are going to put on the trailer?  It just seems a little out of place compared to the rest of the collection. I have one that I just don't know how I feel about it.

xs29j8Bullitt

Quote from: 69_500 on September 21, 2007, 05:02:25 PM
What did you mean by "when my C500 leaves?" You just talking about it going out to be repaired right, not as in leaving to someone else? YOu gotta hang on to these cars, you've had them too long to part with any of them now.

I probably could have worded that better, but I just was referring to when the C500 goes to the paint shop...  I have had a lot of chances to sell or trade the car off, including four recent/current contacts about the car.  I have tried to explain to each of them that although I am not sentimentally attached to the car, it is the easiest to restore of my Aero Cars.  That is the main reason it is going to the paint shop instead of my Daytona, I hope to have it on the road much faster than I have ever been able to do a restoration before... we will see how it works out!  :P

Sadly, I cannot see myself hanging onto all the cars... it is just too many projects to handle.   Right now I have plans to sell the 1973 Charger SE 440 car, 1968 Polara 2Dr HT 383 HP car, and two E-Bodies.  The Charger & Polara are essentially ready to go, but the E-Bodies will take some time to gather the parts and do more assembly...  At some point the decisions will get much tougher, but some other cars will have to go too...

Allen
After 8 years of downsizing, whats left...
1968 Charger R/T, Automatic, 426 Hemi
1968 Polara 4Dr Sdn, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1968 Polara 4Dr HT, Automatic, 383
1969 Charger 500, 4 Speed, 440 Magnum
1969 Daytona, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1969 Road Runner, 4 Speed, 426 Hemi
1970 `Cuda, Automatic, 440-6BBL
1970 Challenger T/A, Automatic, 340 6 Pack
2004 Ram, Automatic, 5.7L Hemi
2009 Challenger SRT8, Automatic, 6.1L Hemi
<This Space Reserved for a 2016 Challenger SRT Hellcat, 8Sp Automatic,

xs29j8Bullitt

Quote from: paironines on September 21, 2007, 06:43:05 PM
What's up with the 68 318 Charger that you are going to put on the trailer?  It just seems a little out of place compared to the rest of the collection. I have one that I just don't know how I feel about it.

Although I originally bought the 318 Charger as a parts car, I drove it quite a bit in the mid to late 80s.  Lately I have considered it more of a hot rod project, maybe Bullitt's evil twin... :D  I have also thought I might just fix it up as a neat driver, leaving the 318 right where its at.  It's future is pretty much up in the air...

The 318 Charger is a better fit than some of my cars, like the 1968 Polara 4Dr HT that I moved to my house garage (see the beginning of this thread).  My tastes in Mopars is a bit eclectic... maybe even a bit strange to some!  :lol:

Allen

After 8 years of downsizing, whats left...
1968 Charger R/T, Automatic, 426 Hemi
1968 Polara 4Dr Sdn, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1968 Polara 4Dr HT, Automatic, 383
1969 Charger 500, 4 Speed, 440 Magnum
1969 Daytona, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1969 Road Runner, 4 Speed, 426 Hemi
1970 `Cuda, Automatic, 440-6BBL
1970 Challenger T/A, Automatic, 340 6 Pack
2004 Ram, Automatic, 5.7L Hemi
2009 Challenger SRT8, Automatic, 6.1L Hemi
<This Space Reserved for a 2016 Challenger SRT Hellcat, 8Sp Automatic,

MsMopar


69_500

As long as you hold on to the aero cars I won't hold anything against you.

Or at least that is the only one's that I'd hold on to if I was you. Then again, I'm not an E body fan at all, and well okay I'll admit it I'm really only a fan of 2 cars the Daytona first and the C500's.

xs29j8Bullitt

Quote from: MsMopar on September 23, 2007, 12:07:37 AM
Man, you have one nice collection of Mopars!   MsMopar

Thanks!  I hope they are even nicer in a few years...

Allen
After 8 years of downsizing, whats left...
1968 Charger R/T, Automatic, 426 Hemi
1968 Polara 4Dr Sdn, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1968 Polara 4Dr HT, Automatic, 383
1969 Charger 500, 4 Speed, 440 Magnum
1969 Daytona, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1969 Road Runner, 4 Speed, 426 Hemi
1970 `Cuda, Automatic, 440-6BBL
1970 Challenger T/A, Automatic, 340 6 Pack
2004 Ram, Automatic, 5.7L Hemi
2009 Challenger SRT8, Automatic, 6.1L Hemi
<This Space Reserved for a 2016 Challenger SRT Hellcat, 8Sp Automatic,

xs29j8Bullitt

Quote from: 69_500 on September 23, 2007, 07:15:22 PM
As long as you hold on to the aero cars I won't hold anything against you.

Or at least that is the only one's that I'd hold on to if I was you. Then again, I'm not an E body fan at all, and well okay I'll admit it I'm really only a fan of 2 cars the Daytona first and the C500's.

My favorite car that I own is triple black... my Mopar likes are more diverse than yours... I guess the next time we meet you're gonna  :slap:  :lol:

Allen
After 8 years of downsizing, whats left...
1968 Charger R/T, Automatic, 426 Hemi
1968 Polara 4Dr Sdn, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1968 Polara 4Dr HT, Automatic, 383
1969 Charger 500, 4 Speed, 440 Magnum
1969 Daytona, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1969 Road Runner, 4 Speed, 426 Hemi
1970 `Cuda, Automatic, 440-6BBL
1970 Challenger T/A, Automatic, 340 6 Pack
2004 Ram, Automatic, 5.7L Hemi
2009 Challenger SRT8, Automatic, 6.1L Hemi
<This Space Reserved for a 2016 Challenger SRT Hellcat, 8Sp Automatic,

xs29j8Bullitt

Worked in the shop all weekend (when I wasn't mowing, shopping, or running other errands).  Did not get everything done that I planned to, but I did make progress...

First of all I put the Daytona on roller skates (car dollies)... they don't roll as easy as I had hoped.

Next I pivoted the Superbird out of the way to create a path to extract the 318 Charger.

Then I pivoted the 318 Charger so that it could roll through the gap between Bullitt & the Superbird.

Allen
After 8 years of downsizing, whats left...
1968 Charger R/T, Automatic, 426 Hemi
1968 Polara 4Dr Sdn, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1968 Polara 4Dr HT, Automatic, 383
1969 Charger 500, 4 Speed, 440 Magnum
1969 Daytona, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1969 Road Runner, 4 Speed, 426 Hemi
1970 `Cuda, Automatic, 440-6BBL
1970 Challenger T/A, Automatic, 340 6 Pack
2004 Ram, Automatic, 5.7L Hemi
2009 Challenger SRT8, Automatic, 6.1L Hemi
<This Space Reserved for a 2016 Challenger SRT Hellcat, 8Sp Automatic,

xs29j8Bullitt

The 318 Charger slipped between the two cars as planned... very slowly with many clearance checks!

After unloading a pair of quarter panels from my old utility trailer, I loaded the 318 Charger.

Finally getting room to move things around in the shop...

Allen
After 8 years of downsizing, whats left...
1968 Charger R/T, Automatic, 426 Hemi
1968 Polara 4Dr Sdn, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1968 Polara 4Dr HT, Automatic, 383
1969 Charger 500, 4 Speed, 440 Magnum
1969 Daytona, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1969 Road Runner, 4 Speed, 426 Hemi
1970 `Cuda, Automatic, 440-6BBL
1970 Challenger T/A, Automatic, 340 6 Pack
2004 Ram, Automatic, 5.7L Hemi
2009 Challenger SRT8, Automatic, 6.1L Hemi
<This Space Reserved for a 2016 Challenger SRT Hellcat, 8Sp Automatic,

xs29j8Bullitt

As I mentioned earlier, I had other tasks like mowing 2 acres  :eek2: and running errands.  I also made it by Harbour Freight to pick up some useful items for the upcoming restoration and shop re-organization.  Among the items was a blasting cabinet & parts washer.  For a place with cheap prices, I sure spent a lot of $$$ there...  :P

Last pictures for now...

Allen
After 8 years of downsizing, whats left...
1968 Charger R/T, Automatic, 426 Hemi
1968 Polara 4Dr Sdn, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1968 Polara 4Dr HT, Automatic, 383
1969 Charger 500, 4 Speed, 440 Magnum
1969 Daytona, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1969 Road Runner, 4 Speed, 426 Hemi
1970 `Cuda, Automatic, 440-6BBL
1970 Challenger T/A, Automatic, 340 6 Pack
2004 Ram, Automatic, 5.7L Hemi
2009 Challenger SRT8, Automatic, 6.1L Hemi
<This Space Reserved for a 2016 Challenger SRT Hellcat, 8Sp Automatic,

moparstuart

  post some more pictures of that bullit car   wow I like that car

GO SELL CRAZY SOMEWHERE ELSE WE ARE ALL STOCKED UP HERE

chargerman68

1968 CHARGER R/T CLONELOOKING FOR ANOTHER PROJECT 69-70 CHARGER SHELL