Who's Daytona?

[dads_69]

In the video, there is a '69 Orange Daytona w/a white vinyl top and stripe. Anybody know of the car? I did have a photo of it a long time ago, but it was on my old computer which is long gone. Thanks for any info. www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxwxsFsNjq8
Mark

[nascarxx29]

Is this it its one of Del F Arlington TX.I also seen D Stulls daytona from PA in that clip .I have all those musclecar collector cards they show.Picture of car on front .And stats on the back

[nascarxx29]

Heres another one

[daytonalo]

WHAT AN BUTT UGLY HUNK OF SHIT !!!!! IF IT IS A REAL CAR , THE OWNER SHOULD BE SHOT !!!!!

[hemigeno]

WHAT AN BUTT UGLY HUNK OF SHIT !!!!! IF IT IS A REAL CAR , THE OWNER SHOULD BE SHOT !!!!!

Heard it all before -- last time you recommended jail time.   

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,29372.0.html

An excerpt from that thread:

There should be jail time for destroying a car like that !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Larry, it would probably take just as much time to convert your clone back into its factory-intended configuration as it would to take that Jeff Phillips car (from 1985 and considered quite stylish then) back to original. 

Is jail time appropriate for your car's "desecration" too?      

BTW, I'm not slamming clones, only trying to make a point.  I still cannot begin to understand why you see fit to every car that was customized back when the standards were vastly different.  No, it's not my taste at all, but it's not like this car's restoration was finished yesterday using all that chrome, etc. 

Out of curiosity, what's your opinion of Mr. Angry (Mike Musto's BullRun '68 Charger)?  It's been customized too - should he be jailed?  In 20 years, a resto mod might be just as much of an oddity as Joe's Daytona is to us today.  Heck, a factory-correct restoration effort like I'm trying to do with my Daytona might be considered passe as well.  Times change, so do styles.  Give it a rest.

[Annie]

Mike came down to our house a couple weeks ago to get parts for his Charger. I can't wait to see it finished.

[Aero426]

WHAT AN BUTT UGLY HUNK OF SHIT !!!!! IF IT IS A REAL CAR , THE OWNER SHOULD BE SHOT !!!!!

Considering he started with THIS, he did a pretty good job. 

[daytonalo]

Sorry . like it much better before !!!!!!!!

[Chris G.]

WHAT AN BUTT UGLY HUNK OF SHIT !!!!! IF IT IS A REAL CAR , THE OWNER SHOULD BE SHOT !!!!!

You have been into one type of Mopar for what? Maybe a year or two? You will NEVER get it Larry. What people did with their cars at whatever period of time will never sink in to your head. The sooner you dump your project and go back to boats or Chevy's, the better for everyone on this board. It sucks when guy's like you come on here and have no respect for the cars that guys like you are trying to build and make profit from. You slam every REAL Daytona that you look at.

Oh, 

[daytonalo]

Again , I call how I see it !!! Sorry to offend your thin skin !!!! Do you need a hug poopy

[Chris G.]

Again , I call how I see it !!!

As long as you know it's just you who "calls" it that way. Sounds like you need the hug bigboy. Nobody cares either way what you think from what I have read. I seriously doubt you will ever be the "Go to Guy" when it comes to restoring a Daytona. 

[dads_69]

Holy crap, this got ugly fast. Thanks for the info. at least. What my second question is for,is the color of the car. Is it a 1970 color or 1969 color orange?
Thanks...... Mark

[The70RT]

Again , I call how I see it !!!

As long as you know it's just you who "calls" it that way. Sounds like you need the hug bigboy. Nobody cares either way what you think from what I have read. I seriously doubt you will ever be the "Go to Guy" when it comes to restoring a Daytona. 

Wow....Chris two  daytonalo 0. I agree with Chris.........to each their own.

[xs29j8Bullitt]

Is this it its one of Del F Arlington TX.

When Del still owned that car, he drove it often to shows.  I took that picture in Bastrop, Texas... about a 250 mile drive from Arlington.

Very nice car... not a concours restoration, but much more fun IMO!

XS

[nascarxx29]

Another wingcar car Jeff is known for was owning a black superbird which was originally B5 .And was the superbird seen in the retro classic movie Dazed and Confused

[xs29j8Bullitt]

Another wingcar car Jeff is known for was owning a black superbird which was originally B5 .And was the superbird seen in the retro classic movie Dazed and Confused

Here is the Superbird later owned by Ken in Texas...

XS

BTW Dave... Did Ken tell you about the "other" color?................

[nascarxx29]

As you know it back to B5 and looks real nice.Ken was nice enough to show it to me.When I heard it was in the area was at .I also paid a visit To Matt T in that same weekend

[xs29j8Bullitt]

As you know it back to B5 and looks real nice.Ken was nice enough to show it to me.When I heard it was in the area was at .I also paid a visit To Matt T in that same weekend

Here is the same Superbird after being restored to B5 Blue at a show in San Antonio...

XS

[hemi68charger]

Another wingcar car Jeff is known for was owning a black superbird which was originally B5 .And was the superbird seen in the retro classic movie Dazed and Confused

Here is the Superbird later owned by Ken in Texas...

XS

BTW Dave... Did Ken tell you about the "other" color?................

Yeap,, I've seen Ken's car back in B5 and it's awesome..  Allen, remember the cool ole's days of the Waco Street Machine Nationals back in the middle 80's...... Del F's Daytona is very cool.......

[xs29j8Bullitt]

Yeap,, I've seen Ken's car back in B5 and it's awesome..  Allen, remember the cool ole's days of the Waco Street Machine Nationals back in the middle 80's...... Del F's Daytona is very cool.......

Yep, we had a lot of fun in $5,000 Mopar musclecars...

Cruising Valley Mills! 

Allen

[nascarxx29]

When I saw the movie.Never figure Id run into that actual car.And later on had the chance by a friend of friend that knew the current owner of the movie Joe Dirt car

[hemi68charger]

Yeap,, I've seen Ken's car back in B5 and it's awesome..  Allen, remember the cool ole's days of the Waco Street Machine Nationals back in the middle 80's...... Del F's Daytona is very cool.......

Yep, we had a lot of fun in $5,000 Mopar musclecars...

Cruising Valley Mills! 

Allen

And cheering at Waco Dodge........  I remember also cutting my Mopar teeth down at Neba's in Ft. Lauderdale near "The Strip".. It was the coolest place in South Florida, this was in the early 80's........

[Aero426]

Again , I call how I see it !!! Sorry to offend your thin skin !!!! Do you need a hug poopy

Larry, I swear the only reason you're on this board is to sell your parts.    Your only contributions are "for sale" ads, and "this car sucks" posts.     You're a talented fabricator, but you come across as a real knob online.   Just calling it as I see it.    

[69_500]

  to Doug.

You took the words right out of my mouth.

[nascarxx29]

Here is the Del Daytona and how it got its vinyl top .Del is known for as the go to guy for vintage car magazines

[The70RT]

Again , I call how I see it !!! Sorry to offend your thin skin !!!! Do you need a hug poopy

Larry, I swear the only reason you're on this board is to sell your parts.    Your only contributions are "for sale" ads, and "this car sucks" posts.     You're a talented fabricator, but you come across as a real knob online.   Just calling it as I see it.    

You spoke too soon....an hour later and poof     

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,34855.0/topicseen.html

[A383Wing]

Actually, the more I look at the orange Daytona, the more I like it....except for the hood scoop. 

Bryan  (people say crap about our car also, I just consider the source)   

[daytonalo]

I'm entitled to my opinion , and I will call it how I see it! Most of you guys either think every car with a wing car is nicely done , or don't have the coconuts to say it looks like ass , I do ! Plus I love the reaction from you guys !!!!!!       Group hug ?

[hemi68charger]

I'm entitled to my opinion , and I will call it how I see it! Most of you guys either think every car with a wing car is nicely done , or don't have the coconuts to say it looks like ass , I do ! Plus I love the reaction from you guys !!!!!!       Group hug ?

True Larry, but on this thread, no one ask how the Daytona looked. Yours was an unsolicited opinion..

Troy.. I'm feelin' the love

[BigBlockSam]

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[daytonalo]

SORRY , MY BAD !!!!!!!!!!

[hemigeno]

I love the reaction from you guys

Thanks for being truthful and letting us know what your ulterior/true motive is.  Congratulations Larry, you've just marginalized yourself.

[daytonalo]

MAMA , I SPECIAL !!!!!! 

[69_500]

special, but not in the way you would like to think. 

[daytonalo]

SPECIAL ED ? AS IN SHORT BUS ? 

[hemi68charger]

MAMA , I SPECIAL !!!!!! 

Of course, everyone's special to their parents...... It's the rest of the world that needs validation.......

Again, group hug....

[daytonalo]

Look , I think all that are in this section are great Guys and girls [Annie ] I just don't have a hold it back personality. If it offends anyone sorry , too bad ! I call it how it is .

CHA CHI

[hemi68charger]

Look , I think all that are in this section are great Guys and girls [Annie ] I just don't have a hold it back personality. If it offends anyone sorry , too bad ! I call it how it is .

CHA CHI

Larry, but why do you seem to feel the need to slam a car that someone's worked very hard on at one time or another..... It had nothing to do with the topic.. Some times it takes more coconuts to bite one's tongue, it's called respect.

[A383Wing]

 

[pettybird]

bashing aside, i LOVE old psychedelic paint schemes, but can't stand to see a freshly restored car painted the wrong color... 


a friend of mine just looked at a '71 cuda hemi convertible clone.  it was an original GY3 curious yellow car, and they painted it pink.  fine, some people don't like green on green, but this was already a high impact color! 



then again, if it was done in 1978, i'd be all for it.   not that i have issues or anything...

[69_500]

 

I'm close on what Doug just said. But then again I don't like many cars at all that have a color change period. Even if its a drab color, and yeah my opinion of a drab color  is just an opinion. I've always been told that if I want a car in a certain color, often all it requires is a little more searching and you can find one that came that way. No need to paint a green car red, or a blue car black, just look a little longer and you'll find one that came factory in the color desired. Often that is, not always. With the aero cars included, there isn't many colors that are limited to less than 10 or so cars.

[dads_69]

I didn't realize I would  by asking about this certain Daytona. Wow, comes to mind, being nice,ha-ha. I like the car,it has that 70's look about it,but the hood scoop isn't my forte, oh well. I do want to know also, is it a factory color orange-ish red or?
Thanks Mark

[daytonalo]

Is the color Rust olem brown ?

[hemi68charger]

I didn't realize I would  by asking about this certain Daytona. Wow, comes to mind, being nice,ha-ha. I like the car,it has that 70's look about it,but the hood scoop isn't my forte, oh well. I do want to know also, is it a factory color orange-ish red or?
Thanks Mark

Mark, if you're referring to Del F's Daytona with the white top and stripe with 440, I believe it's V2 or close to R4. I have some old pics, I'll see if I can get one.. Those pictures were taken a long time ago.. Last time I saw Del's car was about '90....  And no, it's not Rust olem brown.

Troy

[A383Wing]

No need to paint a green car red, or a blue car black, just look a little longer and you'll find one that came factory in the color desired. Often that is, not always. With the aero cars included, there isn't many colors that are limited to less than 10 or so cars.

Except for our purple one here....I took a 1/18th Ertl diecast Daytona apart and repainted it purple, put it back together, and showed Mrs. Wing what it would look like all done....she liked it, so we did it....and ever since then, it's been her car. She just lets me work on it and drive it once in a while.

Bryan

[xs29j8Bullitt]

I believe Del's car was V2, although it might have been a non original color when it had the vinyl top.  Here is a new scan of the Bastrop meet picture in the mid 1980s and a later picture after the Daytona was repainted and the vinyl top deleted... Like I said, he drove it! 

Allen

[Chris G.]

No need to paint a green car red, or a blue car black, just look a little longer and you'll find one that came factory in the color desired. Often that is, not always. With the aero cars included, there isn't many colors that are limited to less than 10 or so cars.

It's too bad they didn't offer FC7 on the Birds. This car looks really good. The white accents on the nose are ok, but I'm not sold on them.

[nascarxx29]

I seen that purple superbirdbird at carlisle.Nice replica with some real parts.I think the fender tag or vin had a G for 318

[pettybird]

bird colors should have been

999
EK2
FE5
TX9
EW1
EB7
FY1
FJ5


--as is, but the correct red, add black, and sub in my favorite blue in '70.  if you must, add in moulin rouge and plum crazy.  too bad sassy grass green wasn't available early enough--i MUCH prefer that to limelight--the metallic adds so much depth.


then again, it would be REALLY cool if the colors were wide open like daytonas!  imagine rolling around in a pebble beige, gold or ice blue 'bird--and open interior colors.  they are my favorite cars ever, bar none, but compared to the weird combos you see with daytonas, superbirds are boring.  since the backlights were done in house, it would have been even easier to install any interior color in the catalogue--

[nascarxx29]

And those FK 5 burnt orange ones. like the one Dave Jones /Mason Dixon had slipped through.As reported in a old newsletter says they misread EK2 upside down

[nascarxx29]

[A383Wing]

I didn't think black was offered on the 'Birds?

Bryan   

mis-read post....sorry

[pettybird]

And those FK 5 burnt orange ones. like the one Dave Jones /Mason Dixon had slipped through.As reported in a old newsletter says they misread EK2 upside down

see, i think it's a LOT more probable that the cars would have been limelight--turning EK2 upside down is a lot less probable in my mind than fat-fingering FJ5 into FK5...does anyone know definitively?  the dave jones car looks totally awesome to me in that color. 

[70charger_boy]

Actually, the more I look at the orange Daytona, the more I like it....except for the hood scoop. 

Bryan  (people say crap about our car also, I just consider the source)   

I actually love the hoodscoop.  I'm curious about the wheels.  Are they Lamborghini wheels?

As far as your car, bryan.  It is awesome  , but don't post any pics, because Mr. Poopy pants will have nothing but bad things to say

[A383Wing]

      

Thanks

Bryan 

[nascarxx29]

Whos daytona is he standing next to

[hemi68charger]

Whos daytona is he standing next to

I'm game,, who? I would say your old one, but didn't you have a white wing/stripe?

Troy

[nascarxx29]

It has to be one of the 501 .Not mine mine was red.The car shown must have been new off the line no trim rings were even on it.

[A383Wing]

No antenna either...unless it was a radio delete car.

Bryan

[moparstuart]

  i love the white accents on that car , thought i was the first to do it but i guess not

[69_500]

Hey Dave I'm going to guess that the daytona in the magazine you just posted is GENO's car. Just a guess, but it appears to be wearing a Missouri tag. Of course there were something like 22 or so Daytona's sold in MO, but it is a long shot right? Or do you know for sure who's car it is?

I thought that there was some paperwork from chrysler spelling out that you could have actually ordered an FK5 car, but that it was a special form or something that had to be filled out. And i'm thinking that I've heard that there are 3 of the FK5 cars out there now. Wouldn't be the first time I'm wrong though on Superbirds. I don't pay as much attention to them as Daytona's or 500's.

So Doug, you like the Superbirds more than the Daytona's? Do you think that has anything to do with what cars your dad and mom held on to for so many years? I often wonder if I like the Daytona more than the Superbird because of the ratio of them that my dad had. 5 Daytona's versus 2 Superbirds. Just curious, as I haven't ran into many other people close to my age, or too many other period that grew up around the wing cars with their parents owning a few.

[hemigeno]

Hey Dave I'm going to guess that the daytona in the magazine you just posted is GENO's car. Just a guess, but it appears to be wearing a Missouri tag. Of course there were something like 22 or so Daytona's sold in MO, but it is a long shot right? Or do you know for sure who's car it is?

I honestly thought that for a few seconds too, but there are a few things that indicate it's not my car:

The one in the picture has a remote rear-view mirror, mine has a manual
Missouri's plates back in 1969 were actually off-white with green letters, and 1970's plates were off-white with black letters.  In 1971 they did go to the red background and white letters, but even more importantly - they only used one plate (and it was mounted on the rear of the car).

I think it's much more likely to be a 1969 Michigan plate which was red with a white background on both the front & back.  Here's a handy-dandy link to 1969-present state license plate formats:

http://www.15q.net

It's possible that was a 1969 manufacturer plate - a la the green 1970 Daytona, as that was also a red plate w/ white letters.  If they just borrowed a car from Creative's parking lot for the PR shot with Mr. Rodger, it could have been any R4/Black interior/Black stripe car that was destined for about anywhere.  Considering R4 was the most common exterior color and Black was the most common interior color, they couldn't have picked a more "typical" Daytona combination. 

[69_500]

I wasn't sure if the picture posted was actually supposed to be in the 1969 year, or just in the 70's. As I know that later on MO plates were that color. Your right though the plates on the test drive cars from 69 in Michigan are that color as well. Hmm, so who has an R4 red car with a plate holder in the front?

[pettybird]

that is a '69 michigan plate

[Ghoste]

I believe that pic is also taken on Hamtramk's famous (or infamous if you take in account the Watermelon 70 Daytona conspiracy) circular pad.