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« Reply #25 on: July 17, 2011, 07:48:12 PM »

Bill440rt,I actually have the door windows to a point they could stay where they are. My quarter ones are way off. They are too close to the outside "fuzzy" and when they go up to the top they are almost inside the car ( I think you would pull the bottom in). These were previously in the car. I have all adjustments set to be as close to the inside as possible. If I move any of them out,it just magnifies the problem.I believe I reinstalled the rollers in the correct spots. It does almost seem like the rear one in the vertical track is the biggest problem. I will play with it one more day now that I had a couple days away. If not I will have to try to find someone local to take a look. Thanks,Poppa


Poppa, there are large nuts inside the car that are connected to the rear window regulators. These adjust the angle of the 1/4 glass in & out. Have you tried adjusting them??  scratchchin
You need two wrenches on each one. One wrench holds one nut in place, when you turn the other it will adjust the angle of the glass. You can even do this with the door closed to check the gap & spacing of the 1/4 window.
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« Reply #26 on: July 17, 2011, 10:04:57 PM »

Yes,I have tried those. I had to take one of those rear tracks out to get it to adjust.
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« Reply #27 on: November 14, 2014, 04:46:24 PM »

I would like to thank-you for all the valuable information you posted on your restoration,i am rebuilding a 69 charger r/t
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« Reply #28 on: November 15, 2014, 08:33:21 AM »

You're welcome!!  cheers
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« Reply #29 on: November 03, 2015, 11:50:24 AM »

Hello Guys! Old thread I know..but its exactly what ive been working on..
I just need some pointers that Im on the right track..
Could someone who has installed new glass guide channels tell me if this looks right:
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Of course the Window should be inside the channel, ive just test fitted it Smiley
The thing worries me it that, installed this way, the felt will be "rubbing" upp/down the channel,
feels like it`ll wear down pretty fast...but maybe not..if its design that way

Any tips much appreciated!

/Linus


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« Reply #30 on: November 03, 2015, 05:30:24 PM »

If I remember right , the "felt" actually attaches to the window with some white guides?Huh If I'm wrong someone will chime in....
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« Reply #31 on: November 03, 2015, 07:19:30 PM »

Hello Guys! Old thread I know..but its exactly what ive been working on..
I just need some pointers that Im on the right track..
Could someone who has installed new glass guide channels tell me if this looks right:
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Of course the Window should be inside the channel, ive just test fitted it Smiley
The thing worries me it that, installed this way, the felt will be "rubbing" upp/down the channel,
feels like it`ll wear down pretty fast...but maybe not..if its design that way

Any tips much appreciated!

/Linus


You're on the right track, that's how they are installed.
See the first few pics on pg.1 of this thread. The white plastic guides are under the felt seal.
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« Reply #32 on: November 04, 2015, 01:37:43 AM »



You're on the right track, that's how they are installed.
See the first few pics on pg.1 of this thread. The white plastic guides are under the felt seal.
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ok great! Yes, thats what i thought, the felt folds over the plastic guides...
so now i need to cut the felt channel to size and install them into the window,
then install the window i the channel, right?

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« Reply #33 on: January 19, 2016, 01:50:34 PM »



Fits to topic, whats that white plastic thing called. Thats missing from my drivers side window rear moldingthing.
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« Reply #34 on: May 01, 2016, 09:24:33 PM »

Same project going on in my shop these days. My issue has been with the "fuzzy liners" that keep the window in the vent window channel. They seem to fit much to tight. The window goes in but (I assume anyways) it seems to tight, very hard to move up and down by hand, out of the car on the bench. What brand of the "plastic channel fuzzy things" did you use? sorry for the poor terminology, lol. The new ones I bought seem thicker than the original ones I removed. I've tried to reuse the originals but they are pretty dry and aren't handling re-installation very well.
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« Reply #35 on: May 02, 2016, 05:54:55 PM »

Got mine from a dealer. Don't know if they still got 'em?Huh?
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« Reply #36 on: March 27, 2017, 09:53:06 AM »

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« Reply #37 on: June 29, 2017, 08:06:35 AM »

Similar problem...the windows are so tight with those vent window to door glass seals that I have to stand on the window to get it to go down and lift on it to get it to go up.  Any hints?
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« Reply #38 on: June 29, 2017, 11:30:32 AM »

I went back to using worn originals and my sticky window problems are over! The window motor zips it up and down with ease. With the repro felt the window wouldn't make it.
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« Reply #39 on: July 23, 2018, 10:03:38 PM »

First, wanted to say thanks to all who have contributed in this thread.  Great pics and info here.  I am working on my side glass for my '69 and have some questions. 

In the very first picture there is a line of white stuff on the glass, is that just tape or something?


For the front edge of the door glass to the vent window, are there two different seals there?  What I mean is, is there a felt seal in the vent window frame and another piece that attaches to the front edge of the glass with the white clips?  Or does that whole seal slide up and down with the glass, just rubbing inside the vent window frame.  (I really wish I had taken this apart so I would know how to reassemble, damn body shop!...)

On the back edge of the door glass, I am guessing just use "glass setting tape" to put the metal seal piece on.  (I already got the seals for between that and the rear side glass...)


Also, on the back edge of the door glass, is there a seal inside the track/rail ,in the door, that the back edge metal seal piece slides up and down in?  If so, does anyone sell that seal/felt?


Any info is appreciated and again, thanks to bill440rt and everyone else in this thread.

Clint

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« Reply #40 on: July 24, 2018, 06:53:24 AM »

First, wanted to say thanks to all who have contributed in this thread.  Great pics and info here.  I am working on my side glass for my '69 and have some questions. 

In the very first picture there is a line of white stuff on the glass, is that just tape or something?


For the front edge of the door glass to the vent window, are there two different seals there?  What I mean is, is there a felt seal in the vent window frame and another piece that attaches to the front edge of the glass with the white clips?  Or does that whole seal slide up and down with the glass, just rubbing inside the vent window frame.  (I really wish I had taken this apart so I would know how to reassemble, damn body shop!...)

On the back edge of the door glass, I am guessing just use "glass setting tape" to put the metal seal piece on.  (I already got the seals for between that and the rear side glass...)


Also, on the back edge of the door glass, is there a seal inside the track/rail ,in the door, that the back edge metal seal piece slides up and down in?  If so, does anyone sell that seal/felt?


Any info is appreciated and again, thanks to bill440rt and everyone else in this thread.

Clint



I used this thread to do my installation so thanks to Bill for posting.  To answer the questions: yes, the front seal is attached to the window glass and slides up and down in the channel with the glass since it's attached.  Some folks have had trouble with the repro seal being too tight (me included),  the NOS seals may be all gone so you're probably stuck.  I sanded the little white retainers and then I sprayed ArmourAll on the felt while the repro felts were out of the car, mine glide smoothely.  Finally, yes I used glass stting tape on the rear edge of the glass to attach the Chrome trim.   Glass setting tape is available thru

http://stores.restorationspecialties.com/glass-setting-tape-liners/

Get a couple of thicknesses, I've used it for other things like insulation of the gas tank straps from the tank.  I think I bought the 1/16", 1/32" and 3/64".  Can't remember what I used.
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« Reply #41 on: July 24, 2018, 07:23:51 AM »

At the current time, the Chrysler mylar seals that attaches with the "H" pins is officially NS1 and I seriously doubt that they will be brought back into production.  The reproduction mylar seal is also seeing limited availability due to the cost of the material to manufacture them. 

The heavy flocked rubber extrusion that is riveted into the lockside channel run is still available.  I still have about 700 feet of this extrusion, so they should be available for a number of years as few people replace this glass liner.

As discussed above, the glass setting tape is readily available from most glass shops and some restoration shops.
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« Reply #42 on: July 25, 2018, 06:45:08 AM »

First, wanted to say thanks to all who have contributed in this thread.  Great pics and info here.  I am working on my side glass for my '69 and have some questions. 

In the very first picture there is a line of white stuff on the glass, is that just tape or something?


For the front edge of the door glass to the vent window, are there two different seals there?  What I mean is, is there a felt seal in the vent window frame and another piece that attaches to the front edge of the glass with the white clips?  Or does that whole seal slide up and down with the glass, just rubbing inside the vent window frame.  (I really wish I had taken this apart so I would know how to reassemble, damn body shop!...)

On the back edge of the door glass, I am guessing just use "glass setting tape" to put the metal seal piece on.  (I already got the seals for between that and the rear side glass...)


Also, on the back edge of the door glass, is there a seal inside the track/rail ,in the door, that the back edge metal seal piece slides up and down in?  If so, does anyone sell that seal/felt?


Any info is appreciated and again, thanks to bill440rt and everyone else in this thread.

Clint




Good to see this thread is still helping out other members.  cheers
Green69rt hit it on the head.  2thumbs
Yes, the front seal is held in place with the white clips, which ride in the vent window channel. Sometimes you see the original seals pop up on eBay, havent had the chance to use the repros yet so I cant comment on those.
I think the extrusion seals that go in the rear run channel are also available reproduction? Could have sworn I saw them on Mega Parts website as well. If 69bfan has seals of original material Id go with those.  cheers
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« Reply #43 on: July 25, 2018, 08:37:53 AM »

Thanks guys, I think almost set.  Just one last question.  What goes in the other large hole on the bottom rear corner of the window.

I found one picture online that shows what appears to be a roller or guide in there.

Thanks again, looks like Ill have these babies installed in a few days finally.   coolgleamA
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« Reply #44 on: July 25, 2018, 08:40:00 AM »

It's for the window stop. A plastic piece with a screw in the center. On a 69 it'll hit the window hardware so the glass doesn't squish the roof rail seal. Install AFTER installing the glass in the door.
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« Reply #45 on: July 25, 2018, 12:43:35 PM »

After reading that, I did a search for window stops and compared the pictures I found to my parts kit, and I think I found them, but they didn't come with any screws.  What type/size screws should the stops have?

Also, and I apologize if I asked this question before, what size screws should I use to hold the upper window seal rails to the roof?  I have some 1/2 inch long, #8, cap head sheet metal screws but they almost seem too small diameter wise...
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« Reply #46 on: July 25, 2018, 03:16:19 PM »

Hope these help.



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« Reply #47 on: July 25, 2018, 06:12:36 PM »

Nice!  Thanks.
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« Reply #48 on: July 27, 2018, 06:53:29 AM »

Are those "stops" repoped"? Who has them? Thanks
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« Reply #49 on: July 27, 2018, 07:17:17 AM »

The glass stops are available as a reproduction.  The screw is not not available, so you will have to reuse your original.  Many vendors sell a complete rebuild kit, so you can check with your favorite supplier.  We have them as well and sell the individual components for those who do not need a kit for two doors.  Just drop me a message if your not able to source them.
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