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I have figured out what 5 things are wrong with cars today!!

Started by Lightning, July 26, 2005, 07:04:01 PM

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what 5 things are wrong with cars today? (you can vote TWICE!)

Engines too tiny!
14 (28.6%)
Headlights suck.
8 (16.3%)
Taillights suck.
1 (2%)
Bumpers too big/huge/low
8 (16.3%)
Fire the designers!!!
42 (85.7%)

Total Members Voted: 49

Lightning

Here's a short list that I thought up of what's wrong with cars these days, the new Mustang and Charger included, and possible concepts too.  And the best part of this poll is........you can vote TWICE!!!
when racing deals fall apart.....you go home, like me.

Ghoste

I thought about the last option but decided they are likely saddled with a lot of limitations as to what they can do.
That doesn't excuse Trevor Creed's copout sedan.  He should be fired.

Plumcrazy

I only voted for two but I wanted to vote for all five. :devil:

It's not a midlife crisis, it's my second adolescence.

Dale The Bold

I only voted for one because I couldn't select "Fire the designers" twice.

I want to do a morph sequence from one car to the next between several of today's cars and see if you can actually see when the morph occurs.  Sometimes they have different headlights and many of them have rear headlights (a.k.a. clear taillights).  So there would be subtle differences, but that would be it.
Matt. 14:8 (KJV) "And she, being before instructed of her mother, said, 'give me here John Baptist's head in a Charger.'"

Drache

I figured that "Fire The Designers" would climb to be one of the most "popular" considering I think that the whole list can be because of faulty designes....
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Iceyone

Today's cars are just shapes which can cut through the air. I don't think many of them will ever be considered works of art.
68 Charger
70 Super Bee
11 SRT8 Challenger
30 Chevy Universal

Ghoste

And that is one of things I meant by being saddled with limits.  Between fuel standards and crash test standards, those are two huge limits on a stylist.  Not to mention the enormous costs of bringing a car to market now does not allow them to take too many chances.  You have guys working for the automakers that many of whom went to the same schools and received the same direction.  No one can or will take a chance, they look next door to see what's selling and then jump on the bandwagon hard.
If the Magnum sedan generates big numbers, there's gonna be a lot of really ugly cars available in a few years.

Dodge-Charger

You mean to tell me that out of all the things wrong with cars today you could only come up with five?  :icon_smile_big:  Heres some for ya.
The 10,000 Vacume lines
Computers
front wheel drive
dohnut spare wheel
rubber bumpers
20" rims
made in China, Mexico, blah blah blah
compact

Ok I'll stop  ;D

Khyron

Quote
The reason American cars don’t sell anymore is that
they have forgotten how to design the American Dream.
What does it matter if you buy a car today or six months from now,
because cars are not beautiful.
That’s why the American auto industry is in trouble:
no design, no desire.

~ Karl Lagerfeld


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Doc74

Maybe you can add lack of character/soul or whatever you like to call it.
That would get my vote, opinions and tastes differ so it's very hard to agree on what's beautiful and what's not but imho they just lack character, i haven't seen many 'in your face' type of cars since the seventies.
Just my  :Twocents:

Mudhawg


Dodge-Charger

Quote from: Doc74 on July 27, 2005, 08:39:17 AM
Maybe you can add lack of character/soul or whatever you like to call it.
That would get my vote, opinions and tastes differ so it's very hard to agree on what's beautiful and what's not but imho they just lack character, i haven't seen many 'in your face' type of cars since the seventies.
Just my   :Twocents:
I agree, and the only thing close to that at the moment is the Stang they just put out.  :boxing_smiley:

70charginglizard

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Shakey

I cannot believe that nobody has mentioned price yet! 

I see that Ghoste mentioned the cost of bringing a car to market, this also goes for the cost to manufacture the vehicle as well.  This is probably the biggest obstacle the Design Engineers face.

Shakey

Quote from: Ghoste on July 27, 2005, 12:06:50 AM
they look next door to see what's selling and then jump on the bandwagon hard.

Kinda like Chrysler, Dodge & Plymouth were famous for from the mid 60's on?

69hemi

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  I agree, and the only thing close to that at the moment is the Stang they just put out.   :boxing_smiley:
Quote

Lets face it guys, Gandalf-The-Gray hit the nail on the head with his mention of Ford's excellent job of blending a timeless look with modern technology.  The new Mustangs are "Pure Pussy" as Richard Pryor would say and they have left all the other name reserections in the dust. 

It looks like a tricked out 68 but has mega HP, starts anytime, gets 17 MPG with the air on and still chirps the tires at every shift.  Lets compare with the new Charger.  It looks like a Panzer tank from WW2, it is a massive waste of a Hemi engine, who cares if it starts or gets good MPG is you are embarrassed to be seen in it, and nobody cares if a 4-door car can chirp them. 

Kudos to Ford....Shame on the Germans at DC!
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FastbackJon

I voted to FIRE THE DESIGNERS!!!

If you haven't already seen Subaru's newest creation... WTF ARE THEY THINKING IT'S SO UGLY!!!

"This was the dedication of the altar, in the day when it was anointed, by the princes of Israel: twelve chargers of silver, twelve silver bowls, twelve spoons of gold..." -- Numbers 7:84 KJV




moparguy01

Make the engineers replace all the parts on the car BEFORE they are allowed to produce them! That'll fix the rat bastards.

RD

Quote from: moparguy01 on July 27, 2005, 01:43:56 PM
Make the engineers replace all the parts on the car BEFORE they are allowed to produce them! That'll fix the rat bastards.

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67 Plymouth Barracuda, 69 Plymouth Barracuda, 73 Charger SE, 75 D100, 80 Sno-Commander

bull

The thing DCX has done (that I consider a major flaw) is limit themselves to a single grill design on all of the Dodge products. I know the college-educated marketing fools, especially the European ones, say that it creates product recognition but I think it does more harm than good. Why doom such a major part of the design to looking like a truck? Especially since the trucks have had that grill design for well over a decade. I think it's ok on the minivans but now everything that has the Dodge name on it has to have the crosshairs. It looks stupid and it's stupid to limit design creativity to a single look. Back during the muscle car era they didn't do that and yet everyone knew who made what. Maybe they think we're all morons.

cicero charger


    Just 5?? ??? ???     How about fire the board that makes the decisions" No imagination at all >:(
    The engineers are stuck with a board that makes the decisions,  Every thing is money :'(
    LETS SEE How many beans does it cost to make?   Can't we do it for less??
     Epa regs and the trend for plastic electric cars"    Junk is still junk. I ate these new cars .
     They are way to compicated to work on.  wires and hoses every where. You have to take half the engine apart just to repair a small problem'  They need to go back to school to learn the kiss method of building a new car.    KEEP IT SIMPLE STUPID'''

4cruzin

Welcome cicero!   Definitely some valid points there!! 
Tomorrow is promised to NOBODY . . . .

Ghoste

And Bull, they do think we're stupid.  We are foolish children in North America who think they know what they want.  200 years of history isn't enough time to develop taste and culture.

Silver R/T

im not sure about other things, but taillights/headlights that bs man, todays cars got one of best designed lightning than before using LEDs and projector lightning esp on more expensive cars, im not talking about kia rio or some korean crap for under 10K brand new
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Dodge-Charger

QuoteI cannot believe that nobody has mentioned price yet! 
I havent looked at one long enough to notice if it had a price tag on it. If they want more than $1,500 for it they want to much.