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« on: April 09, 2008, 06:50:15 PM »

I know there are some long time Winged Warrior club members here.  I need your help.  My boss just bought a Superbird that has been in the club since at least 1977.  It is still wearing it's custom paint job from way back when.  I know this car has been mentioned here recently for being up for sale.  It is very hard to miss it with the red, white, and blue paint job.  We figured the build sheet was lost long ago but would you believe that is was still under the rear seat!? 

I need some help decoding it though.  I have decoded most of it but I need help with lines 3,4, and 5.  Codes are as follows:

LINE 3:

STEERING COLUMN: 315X97000
STEERING WHEEL: 08 X9
HORN PAD: 43 X9
RAD: 56
INLET HOSE: 5?
ALT: 72
FAN: 16
FAN SPA: 16
BAT: 69
V STRIPE: 88

LINE 4:

VAC FIT: 66
ENGINE: 122
CARB: 47
TRANS: 676
PIN: 36
P/SHAFT: 560
AXLE: 083
WHEELS: ROAD: 71
WHEELS: COLOR: TX9
WHEELS: SPARE: 28
WHEEL COVER: 43
FRAME: 79
S/BAR: 62
SHOCK: FT: 67
SHOCK: RR: 92
FRONT BRAKE: 29

LINE 5:

TORSION BAR: LT: 781
TORSION BAR: RT: 780
REAR SPRING: LT: 794
REAR SPRING: RT: 964
CLUTCH/BRAKE PETAL: 63 20
LABELS: IDLE: 63
LABELS: TIRE: 68
EXHAUST: LT: 00
EXHAUST: RT: 02
TAIL PIPE: LT: 03
TAIL PIPE: RT: 10
CAR HEIGHT: BP5
1: 65
2: 19
3: 37

Any help with decoding this car would be greatly appreciated.  If any one know the history of this car or might have some photos of this car would be greatly appreciated too.  I will restore the car back to factory original specs: Vitamin C Orange, white interior, 440/6, 4spd, dana, 3.54. 

Thanks!
Justin
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1969 Dodge Charger (DMCL Project)
1969 Dodge Charger (WB General Lee "GL#004")
1969 Dodge Super Bee
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« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2008, 07:37:07 PM »

very cool car. i wish it was mine. good luck with it. Rene
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« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2008, 08:22:59 PM »

I don't have nearly the same resource material for 1970 as I have for 1969, so I can't decipher every code you've listed.  What I can figure out for you is listed below in red:

LINE 3:

STEERING COLUMN: 315X97000
STEERING WHEEL: 08 X9
HORN PAD: 43 X9 
RAD: 56   2998956
INLET HOSE: 5?  Probably 2863257
ALT: 72
FAN: 16  2863216 7 blade 18-1/2" dia. fan
FAN SPA: 16  I think the Superbirds were called out to have a fixed fan spacer rather than a torque-drive fan in an effort to keep them from having the same cooling problems that plagued the Daytonas
BAT: 69  Group 27 (red caps) battery
V STRIPE: 88  Stripe Delete

LINE 4:

VAC FIT: 66
ENGINE: 122  3418122 440cid 6bbl engine code - with Manual Transmission
CARB: 47  Holley R4375 1970 44-6 w/ manual transmission
TRANS: 676  3410683 - 1970 A833 18-spline manual transmission
PIN: 36  36 tooth speedometer pinion - Color = Red
P/SHAFT: 560  2996560 driveshaft, 50.39" long, Plymouth B-body, 7290 U-joints
AXLE: 083  1970 B-body 3.54:1 Dana 60 rear axle w/ 10" rear drums (which means it's a disc brake car)
WHEELS: ROAD: 71  2944390 15" x 7.0" Rallye wheels for B-body
WHEELS: COLOR: TX9   Not sure of the reference here
WHEELS: SPARE: 28  2944450 15" x 7.0" stamped steel wheel
WHEEL COVER: 43  3461043 15" trim rings, polished
FRAME: 79  3466479  1970 B-body w/ 440 w/ skidplate
S/BAR: 62  2835862 0.88" B-body sway bar
SHOCK: FT: 67  2462067 (cast #) 1970 B-body HD front shock
SHOCK: RR: 92  3400592 (cast #) 1970 B-body HD rear shock
FRONT BRAKE: 29

LINE 5:

TORSION BAR: LT: 781  41" x 0.92" LH torsion bar, heavy-duty suspension
TORSION BAR: RT: 780  41" x 0.92" RH torsion bar, heavy-duty suspension
REAR SPRING: LT: 794 
REAR SPRING: RT: 964
CLUTCH/BRAKE PETAL: 63 20
LABELS: IDLE: 63
LABELS: TIRE: 68
EXHAUST: LT: 00
EXHAUST: RT: 02
TAIL PIPE: LT: 03
TAIL PIPE: RT: 10
CAR HEIGHT: BP5
1: 65
2: 19
3: 37


I'm sorry I'm not more help on this 1970 stuff.  You'd think that more things would cross over between years, but very few things transfer between '69 and '70 and my stash of documents for '70 is about 1/10th the size of the 1969 things I've been able to accumulate.

Hope this still helps some...

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« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2008, 08:55:19 PM »

WOW! That helps a lot!  It's definately a start!  I would have never known half of the things you listed.  I need to start collecting more information like this to build my own stash of info.  Now if I can only find old photos and some history of the car... The owner plans to fully document the car prior to the restoration.  Sometimes you hate to see unique 'periord' custom cars like this go back to factory original.... but being such a rare car... I can't say that I wouldn't do the same thing.  Thanks again!

Justin
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« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2008, 04:10:51 AM »

The car is earliest recorded as Carrol Beeler Corryton TN
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1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701
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« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2008, 07:40:35 PM »

Hey Gene this is just a thought but on the line TX9, do you suppose that is for the color of the rim? Line 4 wheel color that is? IE road wheels with blacked out sections? Were the available in other colors? Or was the wheel color box mainly for cars that would eventually wind up with the dog dish hubcaps, to paint the rim the body color?
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« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2008, 09:45:37 PM »

I only have one 2944450 wheel for both cars.  (both are 15x7 rallye cars.)  you can clearly see the part # stamp on the outside.  you can also clearly see the size of "15x6" on the inside of the wheel, and I know this to be true as I mounted/balanced the wheel myself. 

anyone else ever see a 6" 450 wheel?  and yes it's original.
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« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2008, 01:47:40 PM »

Hey Gene this is just a thought but on the line TX9, do you suppose that is for the color of the rim? Line 4 wheel color that is? IE road wheels with blacked out sections? Were the available in other colors? Or was the wheel color box mainly for cars that would eventually wind up with the dog dish hubcaps, to paint the rim the body color?

Danny,

I can only really speak about 1969, since you already know how skewed my documentation is towards that particular year.  The only time I've seen a '69 road wheel car with a color designation other than X9 (assumed to mean blacked out sections between the spokes as you alluded to) are cars with a special order / fleet paint color.  99 Omaha Orange was a fleet color, and at least one broadcast sheet from a 99 Orange Daytona also has 99 listed for the wheel color.  Whether that means that car's wheels were orange between the spokes is anyone's guess.  Gibson chose to repaint Mr. Wellborn's spokes black.

There is documentation to show that the road wheel color code on fleet paint cars was supposed to be 99 (in 1969 anyway), I just haven't been able to find out what that designation actually means.  It might have meant absolutely nothing for road wheel cars, I dunno.   shruggy

For this particular car, I agree with you that the TX9 probably means blacked out sections on the rim, but since I wasn't 100% sure I didn't put that down.


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