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Time delay ignition switch light

Started by 471_Magnum, October 16, 2005, 05:51:31 PM

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cdr

i have mine hooked up, but i un taped the harness some so the timer does not touch anything,, it is in free air.
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Ghoste

The time delay is part of the ignition light, yes.  I have mine hooked up.

cdr

Quote from: Ghoste on September 17, 2015, 11:41:52 AM
The time delay is part of the ignition light, yes.  I have mine hooked up.

it operates the light but it is a separate piece taped up in the wiring harness .
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cdr

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tan top

Quote from: rikubot on September 16, 2015, 06:59:44 PM
Quote from: mopar0166 on October 28, 2008, 07:19:54 AM
Well i searched the site and just came across this stuff, the site is a fountain of knowledge you just have to spend the time and search.       

still looking to see where the time delay is on the wiring diagram, i have two differnt ones but must have missed it


Probably not important now, but I can't find it on the diagrams. Closest thing to it is the map light diagram and it isn't on it. Does anyone know how or when these are supposed to work?


there is a couple of good threads on here , about the A01 light group package , cant find it ! at the minute  :scratchchin: :shruggy:  , but these pictures below  , are what I posted in them  , explaining what wire goes where etc
Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

Charger Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,86777.0.html
Chargers in the background where you least expect them 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,97261.0.html
C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.925.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

tan top

 :popcrn:
Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

Charger Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,86777.0.html
Chargers in the background where you least expect them 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,97261.0.html
C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.925.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

cdr

as always Thank you Tantop !!!    :2thumbs:  pictures are awesome
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rikubot

Yes, thank you very much. Those pictures are great. I used a couple pictures of one a guy on had ebay to rebuild my map light harness, but it is a little different than the harness you posted. Mine and the pictures I used had nothing for the forward light buzzer and didn't plug into the main harness. It just tapped into pink wire on the fuse box, went to the door switch, had a spot for the ignition time delay relay, and ignition light.  :shruggy: (I'm pretty sure the guys who built this site knew that I would eventually find it, so they made me very suiting emoticon)

Edit:

My map light doesn't work now whether the door is opened or not. Here's the final product:
(sorry about the size, the 200kb limit is terrible)
'69 Charger, 440/727

VegasCharger

Quote from: rikubot on September 17, 2015, 03:07:43 PM
Yes, thank you very much. Those pictures are great. I used a couple pictures of one a guy on had ebay to rebuild my map light harness, but it is a little different than the harness you posted. Mine and the pictures I used had nothing for the forward light buzzer and didn't plug into the main harness. It just tapped into pink wire on the fuse box, went to the door switch, had a spot for the ignition time delay relay, and ignition light.  :shruggy: (I'm pretty sure the guys who built this site knew that I would eventually find it, so they made me very suiting emoticon)

Edit:

My map light doesn't work now whether the door is opened or not. Here's the final product:
(sorry about the size, the 200kb limit is terrible)


Hello Mike, if you want you can e-mail me your original sized pic in this post and I'll try to make it appear larger in size so members can see what you're trying to explain.

slayervegas@hotmail.com

Thanks, Bryan

Dino

I need to go over my wiring as well.  When I bought the ignition light to replace my busted one I bench tested it and it worked. The headlight buzzer always worked.  Once I installed the igniton light both stopped working.  Go figure!
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

rikubot

Quote from: Dino on September 17, 2015, 11:29:53 PM
I need to go over my wiring as well.  When I bought the ignition light to replace my busted one I bench tested it and it worked. The headlight buzzer always worked.  Once I installed the igniton light both stopped working.  Go figure!

That is such a kick in the pants. I've had similar happen to me, think you've got something fixed and it creates or uncovers another problem. Hope you get it figured out, though. I can't even find a diagram with a warning buzzer on it. I will keep my eye open if I find anything helpful.
'69 Charger, 440/727

rikubot

"Hello Mike, if you want you can e-mail me your original sized pic in this post and I'll try to make it appear larger in size so members can see what you're trying to explain.

slayervegas@hotmail.com

Thanks, Bryan"

Thanks Bryan I appreciate it. Email sent
'69 Charger, 440/727

VegasCharger

I did some modification to your pic, see if this is any better. The background (carpet) I believe is causing the poor quality of this pic of trying to get a good close-up. But I gave it a shot.

:cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

rikubot

Quote from: VegasCharger on September 18, 2015, 03:05:34 AM
I did some modification to your pic, see if this is any better. The background (carpet) I believe is causing the poor quality of this pic of trying to get a good close-up. But I gave it a shot.

:cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

Heck of a lot better. Of course I would never think of cropping out the extra crap haha. I'll take a better pic when I pull it back out of the car. I just can't get the map light to work. Not sure if you can see how I wired it, but to my knowledge it's wired just like it was in the photo. I know it worked before, but it was Franken-wired in there. I'll go mess with it today. Again, thanks for the help!

-Mike
'69 Charger, 440/727

tan top

 I cant quite make out the wiring in your picture , think its my computer monitor  or my eyes , few  stupid questions if I may ? 

 1 =   whats that ?  a yellow wire with a terminal  ?


2 =     does the ignition switch lamp plug into that ?

 3 =  is the yellow in one loop ,   only the yellow door pin switch wiring needs to be connected to this wire .

Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

Charger Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,86777.0.html
Chargers in the background where you least expect them 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,97261.0.html
C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.925.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

rikubot

Quote from: tan top on September 18, 2015, 02:25:52 PM
I cant quite make out the wiring in your picture , think its my computer monitor  or my eyes , few  stupid questions if I may ? 

 1 =   whats that ?  a yellow wire with a terminal  ?


2 =     does the ignition switch lamp plug into that ?

 3 =  is the yellow in one loop ,   only the yellow door pin switch wiring needs to be connected to this wire .



First and foremost, there are no stupid questions. Secondly, the picture I took is very bad to begin with. Very sorry :(

1 This is the wire that goes to the door switch, and the main harness plugs into a little lead coming off the end of it.

2 Yes it plugs into it. it comes out of the relay plug and doubles back in the same direction. Should be yellow but I didn't have any yellow ends.

3 No the yellow comes from the light side, off of the plug with two yellows coming out of it. At least that's how I read it from the photos from eBay. But then again my ignition light works and my map light doesn't haha
'69 Charger, 440/727

rikubot

Is the light warning buzzer thing an option that all cars came with? I got nothin like that on my car.  :ahum:

Edit,

I think my new dash harness came with the plug for it. It's a yellow plug coming off the far left side of the dash harness, right behind that Tach or clock?
'69 Charger, 440/727

Bronzedodge

The time delay was the same up through the late 80's.  Dodge trucks and vans had them - right in the fuse block on the 150 trucks.  Looks the same, round w/ 3 terminals.
Mopar forever!

tan top

Quote from: rikubot on September 18, 2015, 10:22:08 PM
Is the light warning buzzer thing an option that all cars came with? I got nothin like that on my car.  :ahum:

Edit,

I think my new dash harness came with the plug for it. It's a yellow plug coming off the far left side of the dash harness, right behind that Tach or clock?


warning buzzer  , is part of the A01 light group package/ option  ,  which the ignition lamp is part of ( not sure if you can get the ignition lamp as a separate option )  :shruggy:

  there are two yellow plugs / conections on the  left side of the dash harness  , one is a  , male bullet connector , that's  for the door pin switch ,  the other with a double yellow female spade terminal  ,  as mentioned in above picture J ,  is for the head light on warning buzzer only !!  , that  wire  you mentioned ( TACH or Clock , is gray in color  , & is the power for the clock , the tic toc tach wiring is not part of the dash  harness , as its a  factory option .
Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

Charger Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,86777.0.html
Chargers in the background where you least expect them 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,97261.0.html
C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.925.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

rikubot

Ok I see. So mine most likely had it and Satan (guy who owned my car before me) must have ripped it out.

Oh right, Yeah I understood that the grey is for clock and the tach harness is separate. What I meant to say was that the plug for the warning buzzer is behind the tach or clock in location on the harness. Someone on ebay has a warning buzzer harness for sale but its pretty beat and kinda pricey.
'69 Charger, 440/727

tan top

 have a look here !   ,   headlamp on warning buzzer   :2thumbs:

  A = black wire ,   see picture J
   B =  black wire with white tracer , goes to fuse box
   C  double yellow  , door pin switches
Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

Charger Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,86777.0.html
Chargers in the background where you least expect them 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,97261.0.html
C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.925.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

tan top

  have you got double  terminal door pin switches ?    you should  have them  , have you tried  the map light  independently  by its own switch   switch ?  

the factory A01 package  & the yellow wires are a real mess imo ,  its one big loop of a yellow  wire ,  & once the door opens  , the door pin switch  makes the  circut
Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

Charger Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,86777.0.html
Chargers in the background where you least expect them 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,97261.0.html
C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.925.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

rikubot

I actually did have double pin switches. Thought they were wrong, but after the last couple of posts I see that they were probably supposed to be there. I have since swapped them out for the single pin ones. Maybe that's why my map light doesn't work? Either way, I think I'm gonna get rid of my A01 stuff. I don't really care for the map light, but the ignition light sure is cool!
'69 Charger, 440/727

rikubot

Quote from: tan top on September 19, 2015, 12:04:20 PM
have a look here !   ,   headlamp on warning buzzer   :2thumbs:

  A = black wire ,   see picture J
   B =  black wire with white tracer , goes to fuse box
   C  double yellow  , door pin switches

Thanks for the pics and diagram. Very helpful! Saved to my Charger wiring folder  :2thumbs:
'69 Charger, 440/727

rikubot

Does anybody has an extra map light delete plate?
'69 Charger, 440/727