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real 1970 daytona for sale

Started by BigBlockSam, January 22, 2009, 05:13:01 PM

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moparstuart

Quote from: Dave Kanofsky on January 23, 2009, 01:57:37 PM
The turquise car is from the north end of Chicagoland.  As far as I know Don (the owner) has never tried to pass it off as anything but a clone.

He has had it for many years, as was previously stated it use to be red with a white wing and no nose.  About 6 years ago he had it redone and added the nose. 
yes don and at the time I knew him deb was his girl friend ?
GO SELL CRAZY SOMEWHERE ELSE WE ARE ALL STOCKED UP HERE

Aero426

Quote from: Dave Kanofsky on January 23, 2009, 01:57:37 PM
The turquise car is from the north end of Chicagoland.  As far as I know Don (the owner) has never tried to pass it off as anything but a clone.

He has had it for many years, as was previously stated it use to be red with a white wing and no nose.  About 6 years ago he had it redone and added the nose. 

Okayyy.   Now it makes sense.  I know that car.  I was just used to seeing it without the nose.


nascarxx29

1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

Dodge Don

There was a 3 issue expose on 70 Daytonas in MCG awhile back and it seemed pretty conclusive that they did not make any 70 Daytonas. The plum crazy car was likely a day 2 conversion. Probably the first conversion ever.

Regardless of the fact that it isn't a real factory Daytona you gotta admit that is one stunning car loaded with options. Don't hate me but I think it looks better than any real Daytona I've ever seen. I think Daytonas look far and away better than Superbirds but that mock 70 version looks great with the door scoops.  :Twocents:

Aero426

Quote from: Dodge Don on January 23, 2009, 04:04:35 PM
There was a 3 issue expose on 70 Daytonas in MCG awhile back and it seemed pretty conclusive that they did not make any 70 Daytonas. The plum crazy car was likely a day 2 conversion. Probably the first conversion ever.

Regardless of the fact that it isn't a real factory Daytona you gotta admit that is one stunning car loaded with options. Don't hate me but I think it looks better than any real Daytona I've ever seen. I think Daytonas look far and away better than Superbirds but that mock 70 version looks great with the door scoops.  :Twocents:

Simply put, the purple car "is what it is".   It has been that way since new, and is a beautiful car.   Even if it is dealer built, it has its own small place in wing car history.    


472 R/T SE

Interesting, as loaded up as the car is it wasn't ordered with chrome tips.

Chad L. Magee will be able to work to earn the money to buy it, I'll need to win the lottery.


hotrod98

Quote from: Dave Kanofsky on January 23, 2009, 01:57:37 PM
The turquise car is from the north end of Chicagoland.  As far as I know Don (the owner) has never tried to pass it off as anything but a clone.

He has had it for many years, as was previously stated it use to be red with a white wing and no nose.  About 6 years ago he had it redone and added the nose. 

I never did get to meet him at the St. Louis show. I wanted to tell him how much I liked the car.
Dave, I didn't mean to imply that he tried to pass the car off as real or anything like that. I just thought about how much it resembled the purple car. As for the color, I would have thought that it had always been the turquoise color.


Normal is an illusion. What is normal for the spider is chaos for the fly.
Charles Addams

TUFCAT

That eBay ad is full of bullshit - - but its a beautiful car!.  I also agree, its a significant part of Daytona history because it was probably converted by a dealer back in 1970 when it was still a new car. IF CHRYSLER BUILT IT -- IT WOULD HAVE THE WINDOW PLUG.

I'm wondering...where do you get the H70x14 Goodyear tires these days??

nascarxx29

The car was converted by Parsons Dodge for DR David Jackson Bethesda Maryland
1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

Aero426

Quote from: TUFCAT on January 24, 2009, 03:24:29 PM

I'm wondering...where do you get the H70x14 Goodyear tires these days??

The car has been restored for 30 years, and really has not been used.   When they brought it to the Michigan in 1979, they trailed it even back then.

69_500

I have some pics of it from Michigan back in 1979, which I obviously didn't take, considering my age at the time. But apparently I was at the show.

petercharger

for all the stuff that is said about this car .. i see it's at 86k..wow...would have never thought a clone would get that amount of dollars compared to real...what's wrong with this picture?? :brickwall:
best way to get a hold of me is brushcollege@msn.com...thanks

moparstuart

Quote from: petercharger on January 25, 2009, 12:15:41 AM
for all the stuff that is said about this car .. i see it's at 86k..wow...would have never thought a clone would get that amount of dollars compared to real...what's wrong with this picture?? :brickwall:
yeah but knowing the owner I'd bet it's reserve is over 200k
GO SELL CRAZY SOMEWHERE ELSE WE ARE ALL STOCKED UP HERE

hotrod98

He probably feels that it's worth more than a real daytona.


Normal is an illusion. What is normal for the spider is chaos for the fly.
Charles Addams

Daytona Guy

I too have been to see this car and talked to Jerry. From what I read and saw -  to compare this car to the factory Creative Industry 69 Daytona would be a mistake in logic. Jerry has never said it is a factory Daytona. Anyone could go into a Dodge dealer in 1970 and order their 70 Charger with Daytona parts. I personally owned a 70 RT that had an original 69 Daytona wing on it that was ordered and delivered with the wing.

Chrysler never commissioned a factory 70 Daytona. Could you order a 70 Charger SE RT loaded with 69 Daytona parts installed on it – Absolutely. So comparing this special order 70 Charger "Daytona" to a 69 Daytona that was build by Creative Industry commissioned by Chrysler for homologation reasons is apples and oranges IMHO. So looking for wholes or saying it lacks a rear plug is unnecessary because it does not prove or disprove anything. This car was not made for homologation reasons. Isn't this fun :2thumbs:?

Daytona Guy

For the sake of an argument, not that this car needs another debatable point...

What if...in 2008 Chrysler made 500 Shelby Challengers (homologation reasons for racing) that had a special wing and a different front grill and many other parts. Then in 2009 Chrysler got out of racing all together and no longer offered the Shelby Challenger for 2009.  Lets say I found out that every part for the Shelby Chally was available from Chrysler and my Dealer could order the parts if I so choose and either the factory or they where shipped with the car and the dealer had them installed. I think there is room for some gray area when it comes to factory ordered parts for a new car that the dealer installs. This type of car would have a special pedigree.

XS29J

Quote from: xs29j8Bullitt on January 22, 2009, 07:32:10 PM
Quote from: hemigeno on January 22, 2009, 06:23:36 PM
I also wonder if the car has the second hole behind the battery.  Kinda doubt it...

If it does not, it probably will have it soon...   :scratchchin:

Quote from: gasoline_24 on January 22, 2009, 06:48:41 PM
If anyone is interested, I drive by his house several times a week and could take pics for them or do anything else needed.

If you go by, try to find the "second hole"... the attached picture shows the hole to look for & photograph.

XS
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"""what is the second hole for???????

nascarxx29

 I think they were battery cooling holes in the rad support
1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

xs29j8Bullitt

Quote from: XS29J on January 25, 2009, 09:18:57 AM
Quote from: xs29j8Bullitt on January 22, 2009, 07:32:10 PM

If you go by, try to find the "second hole"... the attached picture shows the hole to look for & photograph.

XS


"""what is the second hole for???????

It appears to be for relocating the clip for the headlight harness routing.  Check out Geno's Daytona restoration thread:

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,48725.440.html

Although the discussion starts earlier, post 448 is a good starting point with a picture...

Allen

Picture from Geno's thread:

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nascarxx29

Oh those 2 inner fenderwell holes.Most likely probably for the wiring harness.I got alot original under hood pictures of aero cars and various chargers.Will take a closer look
1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

maxwellwedge

One of my Daytona's has the second hole, the other does not. The car with the extra hole also has the two (smaller) holes rad support whereas the car with out the extra (battery area) hole has the one large hole in the rad support. The wiring harness clip in the car with the extra (battery area) hole does not even come close to clipping in either hole  :icon_smile_big:

There were at least 3 different harnesses used on 'Tona's to further add to the mayhem!

Chris G.

 :Twocents: The car was built as a V-Code, FC7 (non-vinyl), 4spd SE. It left the factory in St. Louis just like any other Charger would have. Once it got to the dealer in D.C., it was converted (unless it made a pit stop in Detroit). At this time the wing, nose and ALSO the sunroof and vinyl top were added.

Like many of the others, I agree this is a piece of Chrysler history. It's just not the fairly tale ending many had hoped for. Again... :Twocents: 

dukeboy320

i like the 70 daytonas better but i like the 69' chargers O0
Massively Over Powerd And Respected

dodgedaytona70

Quote from: hotrod98 on January 23, 2009, 12:48:32 AM
The turquoise car that attended the St. Louis show in 2004 was very, very nice. Seems like it was owned by a doctor. I took several pics of that car and it was the car that made me decide to go ahead and build my clone.
Maybe if I could see it again, it would help me to decide to finish my clone.  :icon_smile_big:
Hi I am the owner of the Q5 1970 Dodge Daytona clone. My nane is Don as said in some of the other post. I've  been looking at this site for a long time but was apprehensvie about joinig or showing the car. The wing is a real Daytona piece bought at the Mopar NATs in 1995. The nose is from showcars in Canada. I did not put in a plug for two reasons. I never wanted it to be passed off as real and supposedly the three 1970 Daytonas that exist (or not) is why I made mine with no window plug.

hotrod98

Quote from: dodgedaytona70 on January 25, 2009, 05:26:13 PM
Quote from: hotrod98 on January 23, 2009, 12:48:32 AM
The turquoise car that attended the St. Louis show in 2004 was very, very nice. Seems like it was owned by a doctor. I took several pics of that car and it was the car that made me decide to go ahead and build my clone.
Maybe if I could see it again, it would help me to decide to finish my clone.  :icon_smile_big:
Hi I am the owner of the Q5 1970 Dodge Daytona clone. My nane is Don as said in some of the other post. I've  been looking at this site for a long time but was apprehensvie about joinig or showing the car. The wing is a real Daytona piece bought at the Mopar NATs in 1995. The nose is from showcars in Canada. I did not put in a plug for two reasons. I never wanted it to be passed off as real and supposedly the three 1970 Daytonas that exist (or not) is why I made mine with no window plug.

I spent a lot of time drooling over your car. I'm serious when I say that your car was the reason that I decided to go ahead and alter my 69 R/T SE.
I even thought seriously about leaving the back window stock, but others around here convinced me to go the whole Daytona route.
Anyway, love your car.  :2thumbs:


Normal is an illusion. What is normal for the spider is chaos for the fly.
Charles Addams