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« on: November 27, 2005, 07:09:30 PM »

  This guy sent me this offering it as Daytona Rear window trim...   I know it's not...  What does it go to???  A R.R.Huh


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« Reply #1 on: November 27, 2005, 07:10:34 PM »

Looks like 70-74 E bodies.
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« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2005, 09:06:59 PM »

Those are 70-74 Dodge Challenger rear window moldings
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« Reply #3 on: November 27, 2005, 10:24:28 PM »

Yeah,,, definitely not C500 or Daytona moulding...    Huh

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« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2005, 12:01:06 AM »

Not daytona or 500 .For certain ebody as mentioned.The corners from a 68-70 will work but the standard charger non flush back window trim wont work unless .You use 2 sets a dont mind extra lines.I was able on a superbird we had needed a top piece .Modified it from a regular b body piece of trim.With all these metal gurus stampung out noses and wings out of thick gauge metal and etc body hardware .Why hasnt anyone stepped up to the plate and repoed this thin metal so deseparetly needed.They have vendors for back glass and the plug .But not back window trim for 500/ daytona .Or for the superbird?HuhHuhHuhHuh
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« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2005, 01:51:11 PM »

I've heard its under consideration, but not close to production just yet.
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« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2005, 07:47:40 PM »

With all these metal gurus stampung out noses and wings out of thick gauge metal and etc body hardware .Why hasnt anyone stepped up to the plate and repoed this thin metal so deseparetly needed.They have vendors for back glass and the plug .But not back window trim for 500/ daytona .Or for the superbird?HuhHuhHuhHuh




Dave/Wingcar69/70, ohh!............. that rear window trim is the "easy" stuff!.........we thought we'ed make the "hard" stuff first!................ nutkick...........let's see.....all that's required is a driven edge roller/ former....oh about $25,000 used, some custom roll tooling..........$2500+...? A  heap of 304/316 stainless sheeting......"no problem".....cheap!...........and I got nothing else to do for a couple of months ,but stand there "practicing" forming that "thin" metal you so "deseparetly" need!....................................how about fiberglass repro's with that shine'y silver tape put on it?........yeah!!!!!.....that way it matches those "fiberglass" A-pillar mouldings out of  teXas icon_smile_tongue
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« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2005, 07:55:51 PM »

I'm sure it takes a lot of time and money to produce something like that. But in reality it would be most cost effective to reproduce the window trim to say a regular Charger, or a Road Runner or a something else. Something they could sell a few thousand copies of instead of 150 to 300.


But it is something I wish they did reproduce.
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« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2005, 09:12:50 PM »


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« Reply #9 on: December 08, 2005, 10:49:15 PM »

Just one more reason to use the vega plug. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2005, 06:41:01 AM »

You think? The vega plug seem like an awful lot of extra work to me.
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« Reply #11 on: December 09, 2005, 07:07:11 AM »

Just an FYI, we've made a set of rear window trim already by fusing two pieces.  It's a lot of work/time to dress them out.  Hopefully before the Winter is out we'll have a few sets available.  Don't know the price yet, and we'll only offer them if they are durable enough.  More on them later.   icon_smile_big
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« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2005, 07:09:38 AM »

Thanks for the heads up.

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« Reply #13 on: December 09, 2005, 08:47:20 AM »

I agree that the vega plug is labor intensive, but the advantages would be having the trim available, less expense for parts and cheaper to replace the back glass if broken.  The cost to go correct would exceed $3500 inc the panel, glass, moldings and shipping. Vega plugs can still be bought for $75.00. It's up to the individual as to how correct he wants his clone. It's still a clone no matter which way you go though.
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« Reply #14 on: December 09, 2005, 09:32:38 AM »

True if you are going to clone a car, but me personally I'd prefer a steel plug, and a repro window. Just something about trying to make it as close as possible. I guess I'm picky, but I would want one as close as it could get.
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« Reply #15 on: December 09, 2005, 09:36:51 AM »

Anyone have a good pic of the two versions side by side?  Just as a demo of how much difference there is.
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« Reply #16 on: December 09, 2005, 12:17:51 PM »

One of the daytona repro parts guys told me that the back glasses that are available, are laminated like a windshield and are prone to cracking. Just what I was told, not sure about it though.
People that are familiar with the cars can see the difference between the panel and the vega plug. As for me, I really can't tell other than the moldings look a little different. The thing is, it will never be a real daytona no matter how much you spend. I just want a clone that I can drive without worrying about wrecking a valuable car.
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« Reply #17 on: December 09, 2005, 02:44:06 PM »

The only way the glass will crack is if you nick it as you install it or the trim and/or clips.  If you don't damage it, it shouldn't crack.  It will react like any front windshield...
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« Reply #18 on: December 09, 2005, 02:50:59 PM »

who makes daytona repro glass neway?-MATT
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« Reply #19 on: December 09, 2005, 04:59:30 PM »



At least there's not a rubber one in the middle. Cheesy
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« Reply #20 on: December 10, 2005, 08:30:27 PM »

 I've thought about using two sets of trim and see if I can find somebody to weld stainless steel and finish the welds flat.
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« Reply #21 on: December 10, 2005, 08:37:45 PM »

The thing is, it will never be a real daytona no matter how much you spend. I just want a clone that I can drive without worrying about wrecking a valuable car.






          You guys crack me up all the time with this clone BS!..................yes a majority of my customers are restoring "real" cars (all cars are real, no matter how they left the factory!) .....and some customers are building "clones" to pass off as "real" cars.......who cares!...............I feel any car, "real" or "cloned" is still a valuable car.........................if your building a car in today hobby, it had better be the best you can do! .....real, cloned, custom, restified, etc, etc,.............................and if you want to drive a car and not worry about wrecking it !.............please drive a 06 charger! Grin



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« Reply #22 on: December 10, 2005, 09:46:35 PM »

Well, that isn't bad advice Mike, but for some of us, the pockets are shallower than others so the worry about wrecking a car becomes very real.   Yes, you can make the argument that if you can't afford to lose it, you can't afford to enjoy it, but that isn't the American way is it?
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« Reply #23 on: December 10, 2005, 10:43:16 PM »

Why is it that no one seems to get the point?  It has to do with respect. I don't treat my clones the same way I treat my matching numbers cars. That's why I build clones instead of going out and buying the real thing.  I could care less if I wreck a 30k clone. I drive them hard. If I break them, I just repair them and go on. They're clones.   That's what they're for.     I won't treat my #'s cars that way.
Frankly, I'm tired of the B.S..
I think I'll just forget the daytona clone thing and put my R/T SE triple black car back original and save myself the headaches.


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« Reply #24 on: December 10, 2005, 11:24:41 PM »

Not everybody has deep pockets .And or wants or can to spend X amount of $$$ on these.cars that are in a very limited number of supply Me and a friend in TX had done these cars for fun and not such much for profit in the mid 70-s.So building a replica or AKA clone is fine.But typicaly not every guy will go with the high ended parts from various wing supplying vendors.Some go there own way and make or retro fit parts .As in the vega window plug thats the newest thing.The guy near me has the $$ to buy 69 charger500/daytona trunk hinges .But made his own from seeing the ones on my daytona.If your resourcefull you can make do.In certain area of construction.He got a stinger front nose kit .That needed to be reworked and rengineered right out of the box But taking that route allowed moneys to be spent on other items on the build up.Like on a solid casted aluminum wing.But as these cars are in such a limited number and in great demand .And low supply.Certain vendors enter this area only to captilize on this money making limited rising wingcar market.But if they cant sell enough units forhand,It doesnt pay even to tool up in some cases for a limited number of a certain part.So for example Mike and his business associate at 200 Sweet ave in pawtucket will have never generated enough$$$$$$ of these limited parts sales to ever buy the specialized window trim equipmentAnd in my opinion.Where as a devoted wing car guy like ted atleast makes a effort to get something outhere for example as to the remark made about plastic a pillars or rear window trim to the needing masses.!....................................how about fiberglass repro's with that shine'y silver tape put on it?........yeah!!!!!.....that way it matches those "fiberglass" A-pillar mouldings out of   teXas
.When nothing else was being made or available.Somewhere down the road there is going to be only some many real cars needing these parts from these$$ greed driven ego manic fabricators like Mike. Because they already go what they needed  from whats currently available.Or will there be enough salvagable clone donor chargers to become wingcars
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