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The Last Superbird Built?

Started by hotrod98, November 21, 2009, 10:52:51 AM

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6bblgt

Was there a "Buy it Now" at the beginning or was it added to end the auction?

dudedart

Quote from: hotrod98 on November 21, 2009, 10:52:51 AM
This Superbird is being called the last Superbird built. Anyone know if this is correct?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120495887096&viewitem=&sspagename=ADME%3AB%3ASS%3AUS%3A1123

well i have my doughts this car is the last one built for usa or export, i will explain.  chrysler had to build 1 car for each 2 dealers in 1970, this number would deliever 1920 cars made. we all know this isnt the correct number, due to facts. the car claiming to be the last has a build J number of 1934 cars. this means at least that many was built. however it is number 1921 on goviers list and hes claiming its the last one, what about the 13 number diff ? what about the 2 cars known to be exported to canada? what about the 75 cars total exported ? what about the bodys that were given to racers ? known then only 40% of the around 1900-2000 cars have actually been registered, of this 40% known this car is the latest known vin. so that leave 60% of the vin to be 100% verified, a later number will come foward in that 60%. last but not least this car was built on dec 15. at the conversion factory there was additional 50 new cars shipped on the 16th, and took 3 additional days to convert and ship out. a later number will show up.

moparstuart

Quote from: dudedart on April 23, 2012, 02:58:40 PM
Quote from: hotrod98 on November 21, 2009, 10:52:51 AM
This Superbird is being called the last Superbird built. Anyone know if this is correct?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120495887096&viewitem=&sspagename=ADME%3AB%3ASS%3AUS%3A1123

well i have my doughts this car is the last one built for usa or export, i will explain.  chrysler had to build 1 car for each 2 dealers in 1970, this number would deliever 1920 cars made. we all know this isnt the correct number, due to facts. the car claiming to be the last has a build J number of 1934 cars. this means at least that many was built. however it is number 1921 on goviers list and hes claiming its the last one, what about the 13 number diff ? what about the 2 cars known to be exported to canada? what about the 75 cars total exported ? what about the bodys that were given to racers ? known then only 40% of the around 1900-2000 cars have actually been registered, of this 40% known this car is the latest known vin. so that leave 60% of the vin to be 100% verified, a later number will come foward in that 60%. last but not least this car was built on dec 15. at the conversion factory there was additional 50 new cars shipped on the 16th, and took 3 additional days to convert and ship out. a later number will show up.
On the TV show    
American Icon on Velocity   A  Superbird was on there on the aero cars special , they has a white one from california  stating it was the last one built  ..  Everyone has the last one   :D :D :D
GO SELL CRAZY SOMEWHERE ELSE WE ARE ALL STOCKED UP HERE

Golden-Arm

the "last one" built is rather subjective. plymouth sent cars out in batches to clairepoint, and they were assembled/finished, in random order. so while you might technically be able to point to the car with the highest vin (or, the "last one built) it's not going to be the last one done, at clairepoint. the superbird list shows the difference between built by plymouth dates, and the way the batches were delivered for final conversion. some cars have even been shown in batches, as being finished, ready to ship, and as mentioned above the guy in cali with the white car has the last one. as does the guy in conn, who also has the last one. the highest vin would seem to be the true "last one" built, even though it wasn't the last one finished. maybe the last one loaded onto a transport is the last one? or even the last one unloaded from a transport? plymouth guys will probably argue the last one, until they're dead. :brickwall:

dudedart

Quote from: 6bblgt on November 29, 2009, 02:59:18 PM
Was there a "Buy it Now" at the beginning or was it added to end the auction?

when the cars showed up at the conversion plant they already had a VIN. we are obviously not talking about the last one converted, were talking about the last built according to the sequence numbers. shipments of cars to be converted were not stopped on the 28 shipment of dec 15 1969, there was 29 shipments that ended on the 16th of dec. those cars produced on that 29th shipment would have a higher sequence than those on the 28 shipment. when you run the numbers properly you can determine there was more than 1935 cars made.

pettybird

go thread mining often?



VIN, Lynch sequence and the J numbers don't correlate.

Sequence numbers (either one of them) don't correspond to conversion or ship dates.

Just because the car had a later VIN didn't guarantee it was actually built after a car with a lower VIN. 

Lynch Rd was like 6 lanes wide...how can you be sure that one 'bird didn't pass another one in another part of the plant?

The VIN list you refer to really isn't in any particular order. 




What are you arguing again?

nascarxx29

Wouldnt the last bird built be the 181257 car :Twocents:

Fender tag shows a late (12/15/69) build date. The last digits of the VIN are 181257. According to Johnson, Galen Govier says it's one of the last SuperBirds built. The winged Warriors say that they haven't seen a Bird with a later VIN. As on page 3 http://www.dragracingonline.com/features/featurecar/vii_9-superbird-1.html
1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

dudedart

Quote from: 6bblgt on November 29, 2009, 02:59:18 PM
Was there a "Buy it Now" at the beginning or was it added to end the auction?

sequence numbers and j numbers do show some, (while not exact) relation to the build of the car, both be a higher number. dont forget cars had the vin stamped into the car, engines ect. dont assume they were just slapping vin's on car when they crossed the finish gate. this was a controlled process, or else youd be getting mixxed numbers, like mixxed build sheets, people checked the vin's and stampings. everyone needs to remmeber that 1920 was the number for years and years. the ebay car was 1934. 1934 was never a number to was mentioned of the total build date. 1920 1925 1935 1969, where all numbers thrown around. also it was built on dec 15, cars were still being built on dec 16 for shipment to be converted. cars built on 16 will have a higher number, this car hasnt came forward yet. i personally know of a 440 superbird that hasnt been out of its garage since 1972. this car has never been registed in any of the list. remember there wasnt any  other 71 hemi cuda convertibles, until those two came from overseas back to the usa. what about the 70 4spd hemi gtx that was rotting on a beach in pureto rico , see it restored and sold on ebay ? a later superbird build date will show up.