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Author Topic: MOPAR JOHNS B5 DAYTONA RESTORATION!!  (Read 191035 times)
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« Reply #1150 on: October 20, 2017, 02:17:01 PM »

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If you go back to page 26 from July 19 of 2010 you will see that the Daytona had 24,016 miles on it when it was restored.
This little road trip has pushed the odometer to just over 24,100 miles!

it's worn out now, so let's get her parted out.

some people might not even need to repaint anything
  oh boy   smilielol
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« Reply #1151 on: October 20, 2017, 06:21:59 PM »

Would this be the longest drive it has taken in the last 40 years?   
Doug,
 I think the longest drive was to Tim Welborns house and back or
out at the track at the 2009 AERO WARRIOR REUNION.
But this has to be the longest trip since then!
MJ
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« Reply #1152 on: October 20, 2017, 06:49:49 PM »

john, have you managed to shoot any outdoor photos of both cars together yet?  the only photo of them both i recall seeing shows them in the garage (a few posts back in this thread.)

the bird is stunning, and i can never see enough of the b5 beauty. it happens to be my favorite color combo
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« Reply #1153 on: January 12, 2018, 08:22:15 PM »

                                                     10 YEARS OF HUNTING FOR NOS SPARK PLUG WIRES!
 After 10 years of hunting I have finally put together a complete set of NOS spark plug wires for the Daytona!
I have had the help of many especially Justin ( moparnation74 ) who went in with me on a batch of NOS wires,
Greg ( odcics2 ) who took one of the best dated wires out of a lot for me and Mike Mancini from
American Muscle Car Restorations who pulled what I needed to finish up out of a set of mix matched NOS wires.
The first picture shows all the wires and parts to finish them laid out.
The second picture shows the NOS plastic holders.
The last picture shows the NOS wire wrap.
All that's left is to install the right boots on the right wires.
I will reply soon with some pictures of details to show NOS from reproductions!
MJ


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« Reply #1154 on: January 12, 2018, 08:44:51 PM »

                                                           NOS VS REPRODUCTION SPARK PLUG WIRES!
 During my hunt for the NOS spark plug wires I came across some obvious and not so obvious differences!
The first picture shows an NOS original coil wire next to a reproduction coil wire.
The NOS original has WHITE print and the reproduction has YELLOW print like the rest of the wires!
The second picture again shows the coil wires with the NOS original having the smooth curved boot
and the reproduction has a sharp line in the middle of the boot!
The third picture shows a NOS 90 degree plug end boot with the correct mold line parallel with the plug wire.
The last picture shows a reproduction boot with the mold line parallel to the spark plug!
The white coil wire up front will be easy to spot.
MJ



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« Reply #1155 on: January 13, 2018, 03:22:57 PM »

Great detailing, John.
Glad to see someone that sets the standard for others.

 2thumbs

 cheers
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« Reply #1156 on: January 15, 2018, 08:27:40 AM »

Wow !!!

Which wire was the heat shield/cover placed on?

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« Reply #1157 on: January 15, 2018, 10:50:05 AM »

Stunning work John!

You are a credit to the Mopar World and the the great name of JOHN!!! 2thumbs

I am so proud to be AERO owner and a JOHN too... pity

I feel bad about putting a NON-NOS quarterskin on now!
Oh well I can always cut it off again and fit a REAL one... icon_smile_big icon_smile_big icon_smile_big

I tried to carefully store my very, very old redlines but they just rotted away with time Cry Cry Cry
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« Reply #1158 on: January 16, 2018, 09:32:42 AM »

John

Congrats!  Truly awesome that you got a complete set together.....Hopefully,  it doesn't take me ten years to complete mine but at least I am a little over half way there.....

I really appreciate your thread and the time you are taking to compare the variations/differences between NOS and reproduction/superseded parts.  With all the incorrect parts placed on "so claimed" OE restorations your thread is a valuable tool to learn from and to provide accurate information of whats correct.

Honestly, the Ford and Chevy guys in their OE restorations have far exceeded the level of quality and correctness the Mopar guys are spinning out.....This should not be this way by no means.....Basically, the "hard headed" Mopar gurus need to pull the stick back a bit and start fueling the hobby.....Versus trying to be someone with notoriety, prestige etc and to be a part of the Hobby by providing information and access to NOS parts and high quality parts.....

All you and me and the others restoring cars as such are trying to do is to preserve history......Trying to achieve as close to day 1 status the best we can do...

As I said before your restorations are Stellar and provide a big footprint to model by.  I thank you for your help personally and the help you provide our Hobby!

Justin
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« Reply #1159 on: January 16, 2018, 11:16:29 AM »

Well said Justin!

Mopar prices are through the roof and have been double dear compared to Chevy and some Ford stuff.
Hardcore Mopar guys are used to paying Top DOLLAR for everything NOS and don't even mention the 'Hemi' word...

Oh well, some things will never change for sure... Roll Eyes

Keep up the good work John, YOU IS DA MAN!!! 2thumbs
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« Reply #1160 on: January 17, 2018, 09:35:08 AM »

Wow !!!

Which wire was the heat shield/cover placed on?


Troy,
 The only place that I have seen the heat shield wrap was on the number 8 spark plug wire.
It would start somewhere at the base of the valve cover and go down to the spark plug boot.
That #8 wire is in tight quarters back there between the head and firewall then around the exhaust manifold.
When the car is running and sitting still that has to be one of the hottest areas of the engine compartment.
MJ
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« Reply #1161 on: January 17, 2018, 10:26:30 AM »

 First off I would like to thank John ( aerolith ) and Justin ( moparnation74 ) for the great comments and support on posting original details.
These items are seldom found now and a lot of folks wouldn't know what they were looking at without preservation of these details.
With that said I was working on my spark plug wire set and noticed another ORIGINAL detail on the spark plug wire plug end boots!
In addition to the mold line parallel with the plug wire each boot has a mold number cast into it!
I have attached some pictures showing these mold numbers.
If you know about this they are on the outside of the boot and easy to spot with a quick glance of the engine compartment.

I have a lot more coming up!
I am getting close to installing my very very close to original trunk mat in the Daytona.
I'm just waiting for my extra blank to level out so I can trace the outlines onto it for cutting.
I also have a NOS pair of rear door glass trim weatherstrips to share details on.
Also close to posting are inside window cranks.
When is the last time you saw a set of 4 in NOS!
MJ


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« Reply #1162 on: January 17, 2018, 07:06:48 PM »

HA! I have a pair of NOS handles for the 88 doors.
Don't need rears, since the 1/4 glass is fixed.
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« Reply #1163 on: January 17, 2018, 08:53:31 PM »


Also close to posting are inside window cranks.
When is the last time you saw a set of 4 in NOS!

HA! I have a pair of NOS handles for the 88 doors.
Don't need rears, since the 1/4 glass is fixed.

Just now!! Double HA!!  lol

Silly part is power window switches are way easier to find NOS. I've had a set of those tucked away for years. I could use another NOS set of 4 manual cranks though if anyone has any.



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« Reply #1164 on: Yesterday at 12:10:07 PM »

Some background on John's car!  Hot off the press!

http://www.hotrod.com/articles/saved-crusher-69-daytonas-amazing-story/
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« Reply #1165 on: Yesterday at 01:09:21 PM »

Is that Daytona matching numbers?
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« Reply #1166 on: Yesterday at 02:14:41 PM »

Is that Daytona matching numbers?

From the article...
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The engine in the Daytona is numbers-matching 440, along with the transmission and rear. When it was parked in the junkyard, it was only four years old, which accounts for the originality and low mileage.
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« Reply #1167 on: Yesterday at 06:01:48 PM »

I thought it was a non documented warranty block. I could be wrong. Maybe John can weigh in on it.
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« Reply #1168 on: Yesterday at 08:21:33 PM »

Some background on John's car!  Hot off the press!

http://www.hotrod.com/articles/saved-crusher-69-daytonas-amazing-story/

Wow what a story. Great article! cheers
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