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Mickey Thompson 325 50 15

Started by khodne, February 03, 2010, 01:12:24 PM

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nickstev440

Quote from: cdr on November 17, 2018, 07:27:12 PM
Quote from: TexasStroker on November 17, 2018, 05:44:06 PM
Quote from: nickstev440 on October 29, 2018, 05:34:04 PM
Quote from: khodne on February 03, 2010, 05:57:49 PM
I think this is what you were asking for:  Picture 1 from the side, Picture 2 from the back, and Picture 3 is from the front.

I think Ron is correct, 5" BS would be ideal.  5.5" BS is a little closer to the springs than I would like.
I know this is a really old thread, but were there any modifications you had to make? Is the outer lip even rolled?

I believe that is all stock/factory.  That is about as big of a tire as you can run without getting into some fabrication work.  I run 295s with no issue...

Yep 325-50-15 is as large as you can go with stock wheel wells.

But you had told me you rolled the lip, correct? Was that necessary or do you think it could have fit without rolling it?

cdr

Quote from: nickstev440 on November 17, 2018, 07:41:45 PM
Quote from: cdr on November 17, 2018, 07:27:12 PM
Quote from: TexasStroker on November 17, 2018, 05:44:06 PM
Quote from: nickstev440 on October 29, 2018, 05:34:04 PM
Quote from: khodne on February 03, 2010, 05:57:49 PM
I think this is what you were asking for:  Picture 1 from the side, Picture 2 from the back, and Picture 3 is from the front.

I think Ron is correct, 5" BS would be ideal.  5.5" BS is a little closer to the springs than I would like.
I know this is a really old thread, but were there any modifications you had to make? Is the outer lip even rolled?

I believe that is all stock/factory.  That is about as big of a tire as you can run without getting into some fabrication work.  I run 295s with no issue...

Yep 325-50-15 is as large as you can go with stock wheel wells.

But you had told me you rolled the lip, correct? Was that necessary or do you think it could have fit without rolling it?

it has to be rolled, it is still stock, as no cutting or replacement wheel wells.
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nickstev440

Quote from: cdr on November 17, 2018, 07:51:09 PM
Quote from: nickstev440 on November 17, 2018, 07:41:45 PM
Quote from: cdr on November 17, 2018, 07:27:12 PM
Quote from: TexasStroker on November 17, 2018, 05:44:06 PM
Quote from: nickstev440 on October 29, 2018, 05:34:04 PM
Quote from: khodne on February 03, 2010, 05:57:49 PM
I think this is what you were asking for:  Picture 1 from the side, Picture 2 from the back, and Picture 3 is from the front.

I think Ron is correct, 5" BS would be ideal.  5.5" BS is a little closer to the springs than I would like.
I know this is a really old thread, but were there any modifications you had to make? Is the outer lip even rolled?

I believe that is all stock/factory.  That is about as big of a tire as you can run without getting into some fabrication work.  I run 295s with no issue...

Yep 325-50-15 is as large as you can go with stock wheel wells.

But you had told me you rolled the lip, correct? Was that necessary or do you think it could have fit without rolling it?

it has to be rolled, it is still stock, as no cutting or replacement wheel wells.
Ok thank you, what backspace are you running? Is it 5" like everyone else has said works? Also, when you rolled it, did you keep the chrome trim on while doing it? Or did you have to take it off?

cdr

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68 Charger 512 cid,9.7to1,Hilborn EFI,Home ported 440 source heads,small hyd roller cam,COLD A/C ,,a518 trans,Dana 60 ,4.10 gear,10.93 et,4100lbs on street tires full exhaust daily driver
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c00nhunterjoe

I will have to measure my wheels and then post pics to play... im running a 30" tall tire on a 10" wheel with no problems.

nickstev440

Quote from: cdr on November 17, 2018, 11:12:03 PM
4 7/8 bs,,left the trim on.
My final question (i promise lol sorry), is what is your axle flange offset, as the stock is 2.36, correct? I plan on going with the Moser rear end, which comes with the 2.5 ofset, and since these tires can be pretty close every 1/10" counts. Im just making sure it would still all work, however I'm assuming you have more than .14" of clearance

cdr

Quote from: nickstev440 on November 19, 2018, 10:02:11 PM
Quote from: cdr on November 17, 2018, 11:12:03 PM
4 7/8 bs,,left the trim on.
My final question (i promise lol sorry), is what is your axle flange offset, as the stock is 2.36, correct? I plan on going with the Moser rear end, which comes with the 2.5 ofset, and since these tires can be pretty close every 1/10" counts. Im just making sure it would still all work, however I'm assuming you have more than .14" of clearance

I ordered mine from DrDiff, it is a Strange brand, Cass @ dr diff is a MOPAR person, he knows what works, Obviously it is a stock offset, or I would have some serious problems, if you dont listen to anything else, get your set up from DrDiff  :Twocents:
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68 Charger 512 cid,9.7to1,Hilborn EFI,Home ported 440 source heads,small hyd roller cam,COLD A/C ,,a518 trans,Dana 60 ,4.10 gear,10.93 et,4100lbs on street tires full exhaust daily driver
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nickstev440

Quote from: cdr on November 20, 2018, 12:47:23 AM
Quote from: nickstev440 on November 19, 2018, 10:02:11 PM
Quote from: cdr on November 17, 2018, 11:12:03 PM
4 7/8 bs,,left the trim on.
My final question (i promise lol sorry), is what is your axle flange offset, as the stock is 2.36, correct? I plan on going with the Moser rear end, which comes with the 2.5 ofset, and since these tires can be pretty close every 1/10" counts. Im just making sure it would still all work, however I'm assuming you have more than .14" of clearance

I ordered mine from DrDiff, it is a Strange brand, Cass @ dr diff is a MOPAR person, he knows what works, Obviously it is a stock offset, or I would have some serious problems, if you dont listen to anything else, get your set up from DrDiff  :Twocents:
Serious problems? Just to make sure were on the same page I mean the flange to housing offset (brake gap, brake offset, whatever its technically called), I wasnt referring the axle length offset/pinion offset.

cdr

Quote from: nickstev440 on November 20, 2018, 12:53:49 AM
Quote from: cdr on November 20, 2018, 12:47:23 AM
Quote from: nickstev440 on November 19, 2018, 10:02:11 PM
Quote from: cdr on November 17, 2018, 11:12:03 PM
4 7/8 bs,,left the trim on.
My final question (i promise lol sorry), is what is your axle flange offset, as the stock is 2.36, correct? I plan on going with the Moser rear end, which comes with the 2.5 ofset, and since these tires can be pretty close every 1/10" counts. Im just making sure it would still all work, however I'm assuming you have more than .14" of clearance

I ordered mine from DrDiff, it is a Strange brand, Cass @ dr diff is a MOPAR person, he knows what works, Obviously it is a stock offset, or I would have some serious problems, if you dont listen to anything else, get your set up from DrDiff  :Twocents:
Serious problems? Just to make sure were on the same page I mean the flange to housing offset (brake gap, brake offset, whatever its technically called), I wasnt referring the axle length offset/pinion offset.

my set up is stock for 68 b body, disc brake rotors are thicker on the face than drums, so it moves the wheel out more than drum brakes, I am running rear drums.
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68 Charger 512 cid,9.7to1,Hilborn EFI,Home ported 440 source heads,small hyd roller cam,COLD A/C ,,a518 trans,Dana 60 ,4.10 gear,10.93 et,4100lbs on street tires full exhaust daily driver
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nickstev440

Looks like the Weld Racing wheels I was looking at don't offer custom backspacing, so I will be getting 5.5" and use a 3/8" spacer, to get 5 1/8" backspacing, because the discs push it out 1/8", the only other problem would be the brake gap (axle flange offset, whatever it's called), would also push it out an additional .14", although, based on PM's with MeFirst, I should still have enough room, worst case scenario I'd have to swap out the 3/8" spacers for 1/4".

nickstev440

Is there a reason alot of people that talk about their times have tires that aren't as wide? How much does the width of the tire affect strip times? Would 325/50r15 be too wide (ignoring fitment)?

cdr

Quote from: nickstev440 on November 25, 2018, 10:15:26 PM
Is there a reason alot of people that talk about their times have tires that aren't as wide? How much does the width of the tire affect strip times? Would 325/50r15 be too wide (ignoring fitment)?

Not all cars are the same, my car is a street car, I run a DOT street Drag Radial, my car needs ALL the tire I have, if I was running a Drag slick it could be a smaller tire. a 12.00 sec car should not need the size tire I run.
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68 Charger 512 cid,9.7to1,Hilborn EFI,Home ported 440 source heads,small hyd roller cam,COLD A/C ,,a518 trans,Dana 60 ,4.10 gear,10.93 et,4100lbs on street tires full exhaust daily driver
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c00nhunterjoe

Quote from: nickstev440 on November 25, 2018, 10:15:26 PM
Is there a reason alot of people that talk about their times have tires that aren't as wide? How much does the width of the tire affect strip times? Would 325/50r15 be too wide (ignoring fitment)?

The bottom line is traction. Wider tire equals more pavement contact which gives more traction. I run an extremely skinny rear tire just because i want to see how fast can i get my car on essentially the stock width tire. I essentially run a 225 tire on the back of my car and the goal is to dip into the 9s in the 1/4 mile on stock suspension. If i run a wider tire, i can launch it harder, but everyone runs big tires and i want the bragging rights to be as fast as a tubbed car on a little baby tire.

cdr

The F.A.S.T guys run in the 9's with stock size tires, Dave Dudek in his 69 Road Runner, 4000lb 900hp Hemi
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68 Charger 512 cid,9.7to1,Hilborn EFI,Home ported 440 source heads,small hyd roller cam,COLD A/C ,,a518 trans,Dana 60 ,4.10 gear,10.93 et,4100lbs on street tires full exhaust daily driver
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c00nhunterjoe

Quote from: cdr on November 26, 2018, 04:42:13 PM
The F.A.S.T guys run in the 9's with stock size tires, Dave Dudek in his 69 Road Runner, 4000lb 900hp Hemi
yeah but f.a.s.t cars have insane internal modifications. Still impressive what they are doing on stock appearing cars. Hemijoel is one of my favorites. Their engines have more modifications done then nhra stock amd cost more as well. Big strokers and unlimited head porting makes the power. Highly reccomend watching them at your local track if anyone has never seen them. But dont be fooled, they are NOT stock, they just look like it. Factory stock is another cool class to look into to that dave runs. Reminds you of the old school nhra days.

*Edited for fs vs fast.*