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just bought a historic hauler

Started by 41husk, March 05, 2010, 07:35:35 PM

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41husk

from what I read, any Vehicle over 26001 lbs GVW or under that carring 16 0r more passengers or carring commercial property?
1969 Dodge Charger 500 440/727
1970 Challenger convertible 340/727
1970 Plymouth Duster FM3
1974 Dodge Dart /6/904
1983 Plymouth Scamp GT 2.2 Auto
1950 Dodge Pilot house pick up

69_500

If the Vehicle is over 26001 you would need at least a Class B CDL. With it being under that you might need a class C sometimes called a Chauffeurs license.

472 R/T SE

I should know.  I drove in the patch, OTR, heavy hauler & regularly run a 180k lb. plus crane down the road.  Unfortunately this part of my brain doesn't work any more.

But I can offer this:

http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/registration-licensing/cdl/cdl.htm

41husk

I called the DMV and they told me as long as it is under 26001 GVW (it is 26000) and is not towing a vehicle over 10000 lbs or carring a load over 10000 lbs, not carring more than 16 passengers including driver, and not hauling hazardous waste, I do not need a CDL.
1969 Dodge Charger 500 440/727
1970 Challenger convertible 340/727
1970 Plymouth Duster FM3
1974 Dodge Dart /6/904
1983 Plymouth Scamp GT 2.2 Auto
1950 Dodge Pilot house pick up

moparstuart

Quote from: 41husk on March 18, 2010, 01:10:57 PM
I called the DMV and they told me as long as it is under 26001 GVW (it is 26000) and is not towing a vehicle over 10000 lbs or carring a load over 10000 lbs, not carring more than 16 passengers including driver, and not hauling hazardous waste, I do not need a CDL.
to be safe I would also put some not for hire decals on it , if it doesnt have them already .
GO SELL CRAZY SOMEWHERE ELSE WE ARE ALL STOCKED UP HERE

Aero426

I think it's already marked as "Not For Hire" on the side of the bed.

PocketThunder

I would still get your CDL and put some "for hire" stickers on the side and haul cars on the weekends to help pay for your license plates and insurance!!  :icon_smile_big:
"Liberalism is a disease that attacks one's ability to understand logic. Extreme manifestations include the willingness to continue down a path of self destruction, based solely on a delusional belief in a failed ideology."

41husk

neal said it is marked not for hire already.
1969 Dodge Charger 500 440/727
1970 Challenger convertible 340/727
1970 Plymouth Duster FM3
1974 Dodge Dart /6/904
1983 Plymouth Scamp GT 2.2 Auto
1950 Dodge Pilot house pick up

41husk

American Collector car said they could not insure it because it was to big :shruggy:  I had told them I was going to use it to haul the daytona to shows and show both of them.  I talked to a local old drag racer, Jim Rivskovsky.  He told me he had the same problem with his hauler after he told the insurance Co. he used the truck to carry his car to the track.  He said he changed companies and when asked what the truck was for he told them pleasure and got a much lower rate.  He said if they at what the truck is for tell them you are going to car shows and parades, and tell them the history of the truck.  I did that and got a rate of $150 per year.  I have some milage limitations, but I have far more miles per year than I will use.  The agent did need to see the vin.  She said Dodge did not make a D-700 after 76.  I told her the truck was given to Cotton Owens and may be the onl one they made.  She said they would just rate it as they would a 76 :scratchchin: Going to pick it up Monday and the Daytona the folloeing Friday.  Spring is looking up!
1969 Dodge Charger 500 440/727
1970 Challenger convertible 340/727
1970 Plymouth Duster FM3
1974 Dodge Dart /6/904
1983 Plymouth Scamp GT 2.2 Auto
1950 Dodge Pilot house pick up

4cruzin

Looks like a cool score on the truck!   :2thumbs:
Tomorrow is promised to NOBODY . . . .

talkiemopar

When I had my hauler I had to get commercial insurance.  They also said that I had to go through the weight stations.  You might want to check it out.
Rick

41husk

Mr. Castles said I will need to stop at weigh stations if I have a car loaded but not if empty.
1969 Dodge Charger 500 440/727
1970 Challenger convertible 340/727
1970 Plymouth Duster FM3
1974 Dodge Dart /6/904
1983 Plymouth Scamp GT 2.2 Auto
1950 Dodge Pilot house pick up

moparstuart

Quote from: 41husk on March 24, 2010, 08:56:18 AM
Mr. Castles said I will need to stop at weigh stations if I have a car loaded but not if empty.
We have a two ton tow truck for the salvage yard here and they laugh at us in missouri if we stop at weigh stations .    :shruggy:
GO SELL CRAZY SOMEWHERE ELSE WE ARE ALL STOCKED UP HERE

hemigeno

When I took my 2-ton on it's first long road trip to the 'Nats in 2005 (while hauling my R/T), I stopped at a couple weigh stations on the way out.  They both sent me through the bypass lanes, so I figured no one was worried about how much my rig weighed.  That was the last time I bothered going across the scales.


41husk

1969 Dodge Charger 500 440/727
1970 Challenger convertible 340/727
1970 Plymouth Duster FM3
1974 Dodge Dart /6/904
1983 Plymouth Scamp GT 2.2 Auto
1950 Dodge Pilot house pick up

nascarxx29

Been to school and got my CDL A. CDL required with air brakes and GWV rating as I recall  .But different state different rules .Retro cool hauler though have you seen these other ones

http://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=5513843&Main=4135439
1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

41husk

that is what I was hoping for on mine.  I was trying to find out if Cotton, Marty or Neal ever had signs or logos on the doors are anything.  Unfortunately it appears the truck was never marked.  I am realy having problems finding any more info or pictures of the truck.  I ran the VIN and got some interesting info
D= Model-  Dodge Monaco, Royal Monaco ? (this aint no Monaco)
7= price class- Code 7 unknown
1F= body type- code 1F unknown
R= Engine- 360ci lean burn (LA motor)
7= year- 1977
6= assembly plant- code 6 unknown
The last #s are sequence numbers

Not much info there, but it aint a Monaco 
1969 Dodge Charger 500 440/727
1970 Challenger convertible 340/727
1970 Plymouth Duster FM3
1974 Dodge Dart /6/904
1983 Plymouth Scamp GT 2.2 Auto
1950 Dodge Pilot house pick up

moparstuart

maybe this car in one body or another rode on the back of it .
GO SELL CRAZY SOMEWHERE ELSE WE ARE ALL STOCKED UP HERE

Highbanked Hauler



   R= Engine- 360ci lean burn (LA motor)     That's probably why Cotton built a motor for it. I have never heard anything good about a lean burn motor.
69 Charger 500, original owner  
68 Charger former parts car in process of rebuilding
92 Cummins Turbo Diesel
04 PT Cruiser

UFO

D-2wheel drive
7-700 series
1-conventional cab
F-19,501-26,000 gvw
R-413-3
7-1977
6? assembly plants I have are J-windsor
                                         X-Missouri
                                         S-Warren
Rest are sequence numbers

41husk

Thanks UFO.  Not sure why the on line decoder I came up with gave me the info it did?  413 Engine is strange, Cotton told me he built the 361 himself for the truck.  Could he have preffered the 361 to the 413?  I have not recieved much info from Cotton, I guess I can understand not wanting to waist his time talking about a truck he had built, after building so many historic cars, he probably thinks Im nuts asking him about a car hauler :shruggy:  THe 6 has me stumped could that denote a promo or race equipment?  I will keep looking for info and would appreciate anyone who may have some info getting in touch with me.
1969 Dodge Charger 500 440/727
1970 Challenger convertible 340/727
1970 Plymouth Duster FM3
1974 Dodge Dart /6/904
1983 Plymouth Scamp GT 2.2 Auto
1950 Dodge Pilot house pick up

UFO

Quote from: 41husk on March 25, 2010, 07:58:28 AM
Thanks UFO.  Not sure why the on line decoder I came up with gave me the info it did?

No problem.I'll bet the online decoder is set up for the car line only.

41husk

Were did you decode it?  Is there a place on line?
1969 Dodge Charger 500 440/727
1970 Challenger convertible 340/727
1970 Plymouth Duster FM3
1974 Dodge Dart /6/904
1983 Plymouth Scamp GT 2.2 Auto
1950 Dodge Pilot house pick up

hemigeno

Quote from: 41husk on March 26, 2010, 07:53:54 AM
Were did you decode it?  Is there a place on line?


The place I would go (even though it's for slightly earlier trucks, much of it is the same) is:

http://www.sweptline.com/hist/vininfo.html


200MPH

I have seen 2 or 3 motorhomes/heavy duty chassis with 413 s in them 1977 and the others were 78.
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