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69 "Cali"fornia Car 440 stock build ......... DYNO RESULTS

Started by PocketThunder, April 09, 2010, 11:14:26 AM

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General_01

1971 Dodge Charger Super Bee
496 stroker
4-speed

375instroke


PocketThunder

Quote from: General_01 on April 25, 2010, 09:37:24 PM
So, where's the video and pics? :shruggy:

I got this one for now.  I'll get more when i can.  I drove to work 3 days this week.  what a blast!!!!  :boogie: :boogie:

Paul
"Liberalism is a disease that attacks one's ability to understand logic. Extreme manifestations include the willingness to continue down a path of self destruction, based solely on a delusional belief in a failed ideology."

PocketThunder

"Liberalism is a disease that attacks one's ability to understand logic. Extreme manifestations include the willingness to continue down a path of self destruction, based solely on a delusional belief in a failed ideology."

tan top

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Charger-Bodie

68 Charger R/t white with black v/t and red tailstripe. 440 4 speed ,black interior
68 383 auto with a/c and power windows. Now 440 4 speed jj1 gold black interior .
My Charger is a hybrid car, it burns gas and rubber............

694spdRT

Quote from: PocketThunder on April 30, 2010, 06:13:40 PM
 I drove to work 3 days this week.  what a blast!!!!  :boogie: :boogie:

Paul

Congrats......that is more than I have drove mine all year.
1968 Charger 383 auto
1969 Charger R/T 440 4 speed
1970 Charger 500 440 auto
1972 Challenger 318
1976 W200 Club Cab 4x4 400 auto 
1978 Ramcharger 360 auto
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General_01

Quote from: 694spdRT on May 01, 2010, 01:31:54 PM
Quote from: PocketThunder on April 30, 2010, 06:13:40 PM
 I drove to work 3 days this week.  what a blast!!!!  :boogie: :boogie:

Paul

Congrats......that is more than I have drove mine all year.


Same here. Looks good Paul. Hope I will get a ride in it this year.
1971 Dodge Charger Super Bee
496 stroker
4-speed

375instroke

So that dyno run is with headers, but you are going to use manifolds, right?  With the 476HP, and 4200# weight, I get 12.76.  If I drop 50HP for manifolds, I get 13.25.  Does that sound right?  My Charger's slow, and I'm just wondering what I'll get with a stock rebuild, and just a cam.  That's what you've done here, isn't it?  Just attention to detail.

FlatbackFanatic

Looks great Paul!!! Can't wait to se it this summer!! :2thumbs:
Flatback Fanatic, Kurt  , MN

PocketThunder

Quote from: 375instroke on May 01, 2010, 04:25:35 PM
So that dyno run is with headers, but you are going to use manifolds, right?  With the 476HP, and 4200# weight, I get 12.76.  If I drop 50HP for manifolds, I get 13.25.  Does that sound right?  My Charger's slow, and I'm just wondering what I'll get with a stock rebuild, and just a cam.  That's what you've done here, isn't it?  Just attention to detail.

Basically yes, its a rather stock rebuild and the cam has been changed up.  I did use a Edelbrock 750 cfm carb.  But i'm using the stock intake, and the rest of the parts are stock.   :yesnod:
"Liberalism is a disease that attacks one's ability to understand logic. Extreme manifestations include the willingness to continue down a path of self destruction, based solely on a delusional belief in a failed ideology."

bakerhillpins

Glad to hear its back in and you are enjoying yourself!   :popcrn:

I'd comment more by my neck hurts from trying to read that dyno graph.  :slap:

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Quote from: bakerhillpins on May 04, 2010, 03:08:35 PM
I'd comment more by my neck hurts from trying to read that dyno graph.  :slap:

:haha:


Nice numbers there, Paul!  Glad to hear you have it back on the road as well.   :2thumbs:

charge69

Congrats on having someone who knows what they are doing rebuild the engine! Very nice numbers on the dyno with a great spread on the torque side. Got to be a blast on the street.

PocketThunder

what is this blue box?  voltage regulator?
"Liberalism is a disease that attacks one's ability to understand logic. Extreme manifestations include the willingness to continue down a path of self destruction, based solely on a delusional belief in a failed ideology."

tan top

yes !think its a race only one though , for a electronic ignition set up  :scratchchin:   :scratchchin:???? :popcrn:
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Hemidog

Quote from: tan top on May 25, 2010, 07:57:34 AM
yes !think its a race only one though , for a electronic ignition set up  :scratchchin:   :scratchchin:???? :popcrn:
yep :iagree:

PocketThunder

Quote from: Hemidog on May 25, 2010, 08:05:44 AM
Quote from: tan top on May 25, 2010, 07:57:34 AM
yes !think its a race only one though , for a electronic ignition set up  :scratchchin:   :scratchchin:???? :popcrn:
yep :iagree:

Should i replace it with a black one?

I'm driving my Charger last night and the tach needle starts jumping all over the place and the car is cutting in and out.  Is this the ballast resistor going bad?  The coil?  The voltage regulator?  Something with the electronic ignition?   :shruggy:

Paul
"Liberalism is a disease that attacks one's ability to understand logic. Extreme manifestations include the willingness to continue down a path of self destruction, based solely on a delusional belief in a failed ideology."

GPULLER

Quote from: Hemidog on May 25, 2010, 08:05:44 AM
Quote from: tan top on May 25, 2010, 07:57:34 AM
yes !think its a race only one though , for a electronic ignition set up  :scratchchin:   :scratchchin:???? :popcrn:
yep :iagree:


Huh...I been running the P3690732 in my '66 for 20 years with no problems.

tan top

Quote from: Hemidog on May 25, 2010, 08:05:44 AM
Quote from: tan top on May 25, 2010, 07:57:34 AM
yes !think its a race only one though , for a electronic ignition set up  :scratchchin:   :scratchchin:???? :popcrn:
yep :iagree:
they can over heat & cook the coil when used on the street  :shruggy:

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/DCC-3690732
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Brock Lee

Did you find any remains of the mandatory emissions reduction kit?

PocketThunder

Quote from: Brock Lee on May 25, 2010, 04:11:41 PM
Did you find any remains of the mandatory emissions reduction kit?

I'm not sure what that all includes..?..

I'm going to start with replacing the ballast resistor tonight and see how far that gets me.
"Liberalism is a disease that attacks one's ability to understand logic. Extreme manifestations include the willingness to continue down a path of self destruction, based solely on a delusional belief in a failed ideology."

tan top

think its advance weights in the distributor  , but you have electronic  now !  turn down tips  & twin snorkle  ,  might be ignition timing &  leaner carb :popcrn: settings ,  , just hazzarding a guess  :shruggy:

Chris of just6t9 will know all about this stuff
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375instroke

I hate the shotgun method.  The ballast resistor is just a wire.  It works or it doesn't.  If the car runs, tap it to see if there is something loose causing your intermittent misfire.  Same for the coil.  I've never had a coil or ballast go bad on me, and I've been driving pieces of junk for 25 years now.  All of them with points and a ballast.  Seeing as you have the "race" ignition module, I'd suspect it.  The tach jumping is what leads me in that direction.  It's driven by the ignition system, not engine RPM, so an erratic ignition would cause it to jump around.  What's the voltage on your coil positive terminal when running?

Brock Lee

Quote from: PocketThunder on May 25, 2010, 04:21:19 PM
Quote from: Brock Lee on May 25, 2010, 04:11:41 PM
Did you find any remains of the mandatory emissions reduction kit?

I'm not sure what that all includes..?..

I'm going to start with replacing the ballast resistor tonight and see how far that gets me.

There was a little brain box with wires, a vacuum switch, a temp probe, and a label in the engine bay that instructed to retard the timing. The law was overturned I believe in 1976 and many were removed, but sometimes you will find remnants of the system, and occasionally on cars rarely driven, they will still be intact.