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Author Topic: How do I clone my 70 Charger to a 69 Daytona  (Read 9770 times)
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« on: September 26, 2010, 10:19:13 AM »

Am I missing any other things to clone my 1970 Charger to a 69 Daytona?
Rear wing
Front nose
(Vega plug)  74-76? Is that correct?
Item that goes on top of the front fenders
Can I cut my old trunk lid or do I have to buy a new 1?
The 2 chrome items that go next to the front winshield.
Thank you in advance for any help! 2thumbs
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« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2010, 11:32:10 AM »

It depends on how "authentic" you want the car to look.  If you're going for just the appearance on the Daytona then you should be fine.  Remember the hose has all of buckets, headlight doors, bracing, brackets, lower valance, etc.  The wing will need the wing supports that mount on the floor panel.  As you mentioned already, you'll need the fender scoops, A-pillar chrome trim and the Vega hatch.  Any year model will do but the later years do not have the vents which is a plus.  The vented hatch can be used but there is added labor to fill the vents.  You can use the trunk lid that is on your car but it will need to be trimmed to fit.  Chances are VERRRRRRY slim that you will find a real 500/Daytona decklid.  You will also need the front trunk channel from a '71-up Charger or build one yourself.

Now if you really want the car to look authentic as a '69 Daytona then you will have to do all of the above plus the follwing.  First off, you'll have to swap out the steering column and wheel to either a '68 or '69 piece.  The gauge cluster will need to be a '69 dash frame and all of the pads will have to be swapped over to a '69.  The high back seat frames will have to go along with the front and rear seat covers and door panels.  The marker lights on the quarter panels will have to be swapped over to the smaller '69 pieces.  The tail light panel trim will need to be removed and the holes welded up and the three pieces of trim will need to be added.  I think that's about it.  

For appearance purposes, it is easier to start with a '70 Charger, but for an authentic looking clone, it is easier to start with a '69 Charger and just swap front caps.

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« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2010, 10:49:07 AM »

I am gathering all of the parts to convert my 70 500 S.E. into a 69 Dayclona also. How is the quailty of the Janek fiberglass repro stuff?
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« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2010, 11:50:27 AM »

I am gathering all of the parts to convert my 70 500 S.E. into a 69 Dayclona also. How is the quailty of the Janek fiberglass repro stuff?

             "Pricey"
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« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2010, 11:55:00 AM »

That is what i heard too. About $7000.00 for everything.
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« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2010, 03:42:27 PM »

From front to back, you will need the following:
Nose, front spoiler, grille, grille frame, turn signals, headlamp buckets, bucket bolts, headlamp doors, headlamp pivots, pivot adjusters, headlamp seal beams and retainers, altered wiring harness, vacuum lines, headlamp vacuum pods, pod reinforcements, z-braces, frame braces, upper nose support brace, lower valance, valance support, seal kit, nose to fender seals, fender seal retainers (you already have them on your fenders), nose to hood seal, fender scoops, a-pillar trims, vega plug with glass, 3rd gen charger dutchman, package tray (custom made), headliner, package tray support (custom made), deck lid closeout panel (preferably steel), deck lid hinges, deck lid hinge mounts, wing, wing washers and wing braces.
Of course you will have to alter your 70 fenders and cut the deck lid. The vega plug requires alteration as well to fit properly.
Oh, and you will need lots of patience. It took me a week just to get the nose together and working properly on the last one that I built.
Have fun. It's all worth it in the end.
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« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2010, 08:31:50 PM »

Janak stuff is pricey.My SB stuff was 8500.00 to the door.Also I will add the SB stuff quality was not very good.I spent weeks fitting trimming and reworking things to get a good fit.Was it worth it.I have to say yes.But if I did it again I would go with Dayclona or Eric Nelson parts.  Twocents Good luck  2thumbs
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« Reply #7 on: November 24, 2010, 07:07:50 AM »

I found me a vega hatch & rear window assy. for free. Just have to go pick it up. Chevy guys have it made. Everything is always so dang cheap. If he only knew it was for a Mopar I would probably have to pay over $1000.00. Its a start. First piece towards my clone. LOL
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« Reply #8 on: December 18, 2010, 12:39:19 AM »

thats how im starting out
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« Reply #9 on: December 18, 2010, 04:25:51 AM »

so 7 grand buys everything. thats not a bad price. i would have thought 15 grand. i would like to just add a wing and fender scoops to my 70. so how much for a wing set up. anybody
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« Reply #10 on: December 18, 2010, 05:28:02 AM »

so 7 grand buys everything. thats not a bad price. i would have thought 15 grand. i would like to just add a wing and fender scoops to my 70. so how much for a wing set up. anybody


How about I buy the parts for 7 grand & charge you 11 grand? That way we'll both be happy.   2thumbs
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« Reply #11 on: December 18, 2010, 08:37:39 AM »

Almost 3 months on my clone project. I have learned so much and much more to learn. I am still looking for the vega hatch years 74-77..I went to go check one out, but the inside was completely rotted and unrepairable.  eek  I am still gathering parts. Thanks all for the help! If anyone is considering doing a clone...my advise would be to do some heavy research on this site ...lots of info and pics! 2thumbs
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« Reply #12 on: December 18, 2010, 08:59:26 AM »

if you guys that are changing a 70 charger into a clone 69 tona need 69 charger seats, i will trade mine for the 70 bucket seats. i have the new legendary black seat covers for them also waiting to go on. if ya wanna clone you have to swap out the buckets. 2thumbs
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« Reply #13 on: December 20, 2010, 06:37:37 AM »

nvrbdn,
I would consider trading my 70 seats for 69's. depending where you are located. If local, that would be cool. If not, Shipping would be killer on something like seats though.
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1970 Charger R/T S.E. 440 sixpack.
1970 Challenger R/T Drag Radial 528 Hemi
1970 Charger 500 S.E. 440 4 BBL
1970 Road Runner 383 4 BBL
1974 Chrysler New Yorker 440 4 BBL
1996 Dodge Ram 2500 V-10 488 cu in.
2004 Dodge Ram 3500 CTD Dually 6x6
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« Reply #14 on: December 20, 2010, 08:20:08 AM »

nvrbdn,
I would consider trading my 70 seats for 69's. depending where you are located. If local, that would be cool. If not, Shipping would be killer on something like seats though.
   
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