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Author Topic: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!  (Read 30267 times)
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« on: December 16, 2010, 02:12:49 PM »

Hi!
We are going to make a replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille and wondering how many  that are interested?

Any questions: contact me at gigolos83@hotmail.com

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« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2010, 07:01:08 PM »

Do you mean the aluminum trim I-piece (which is already being made) or the plastic center grill section???
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« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2010, 08:27:20 PM »

This is the plastic grille
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« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2010, 11:49:35 PM »

you mean who ISN'T interested.
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« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2010, 11:54:24 PM »

 shruggy  icon_smile_big anyway We Will have a few New ones shortly
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« Reply #5 on: December 17, 2010, 10:25:44 AM »

What process will be used to manufacture them?

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« Reply #6 on: December 17, 2010, 11:19:00 AM »

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« Reply #7 on: December 17, 2010, 11:25:20 AM »

so they will be resin? eek
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« Reply #8 on: December 17, 2010, 11:35:54 AM »

Yeah, that was tried already and made for some droopy grills. Not to mention the company doing it took a lot of people's money and ran (not saying you'll do that of course). In my opinion, they'd have to be dirt cheap - cheap enough to be considered temporary so people would deal with the drawbacks and for people who have nothing to start with. If someone has to pay a lot then they're more likely to repair a broken original.

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« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2010, 11:36:37 AM »

Dont say anything before you seen them
Let my show it before and you guys Can try them out ?
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« Reply #10 on: December 17, 2010, 11:49:23 AM »

I was always under the impression the OEM grilles were injection molded. Be that as it may, I think there's a strong market for the center grille section. I also think if you're going to reproduce the center portion, produce the end pieces as well.  Twocents

I look forward to seing your product with several close-up shots, the more detail the better. Good luck
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« Reply #11 on: December 17, 2010, 12:47:59 PM »

It would be nice if all the pieces are made at the same time to cut down of fitment/finish issues. The sides/ends are compatible with 68 and 69 so there are more used pieces out there - but they all crack in the corners and break at the point under the ends of the bumper. The passenger headlight door is also the same for both years. The 69 center pieces can be made using the same tooling as the 68 with an insert. The 68 only headlight bezels are a popular addition on 69s. If you make more than the center having both years of parts will help offset the costs.

I know someone who has started on an injection molded version but isn't willing to commit the cash at this point. Doing it "right" is very expensive. I haven't found too many people willing to say that a cast part will have the strength to stay straight for long. The sun, heat, and the length of the span require some pretty sturdy material. If you can make it work then more power to you!

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« Reply #12 on: December 17, 2010, 01:02:37 PM »

I will try and show the product for you guys. Anyone know any thing about copyright on these parts?
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« Reply #13 on: December 17, 2010, 01:12:56 PM »

I will try and show the product for you guys. Anyone know any thing about copyright on these parts?
Don't put a part number on it unless you're prepared to pay Mopar for licensing.

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« Reply #14 on: December 17, 2010, 01:16:27 PM »

If i dont put any number on it im cool?
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« Reply #15 on: December 17, 2010, 02:05:17 PM »

If i dont put any number on it im cool?
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« Reply #16 on: December 17, 2010, 02:24:50 PM »

Sounds great bec i dont want to be any problem for mopar
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« Reply #17 on: December 17, 2010, 03:24:44 PM »

yes, the real ones are ABS and that requires a machine tool that goes into an injection machine. big $$$$$$$$

resin going to be FRAGILE
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« Reply #18 on: December 26, 2010, 04:21:01 AM »

I'll be blunt. Unless it's going to be done using injection moulding it's going to be crap. And unless you've got about $40k minimum you don't have enough money to even get started. The only other way I can think of that this might work is with one of those NextEngine scanners and a Dimension uPrint Personal 3D printer which together would run you about $20k, assuming it's big enough to run a part this size. I researched it and from what I've been able to learn even the biggest 3D printer is barely big enough to handle headlight doors and surrounds, not the middle piece.
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« Reply #19 on: December 26, 2010, 04:46:22 AM »

I'll be blunt. Unless it's going to be done using injection moulding it's going to be crap. And unless you've got about $40k minimum you don't have enough money to even get started. The only other way I can think of that this might work is with one of those NextEngine scanners and a Dimension uPrint Personal 3D printer which together would run you about $20k, assuming it's big enough to run a part this size (which I don't think it is).

yep sorry to say  no injection moulding = no good Twocents

awesome idea on grill center sections though BF cheers  popcrn
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« Reply #20 on: December 26, 2010, 06:25:42 AM »

Well its a start, and I look foward on seeing a finished product.  I will reserve my judgement until then.
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« Reply #21 on: January 07, 2011, 07:48:11 PM »

I have always wondered if producing them out of aluminum then powder coating would solve the sag and warp problem.

Then again, there would be the problem of oxidation and stone chips or both issues with that. Heavier piece too.  Plus... lots of detail and clean up before powder coat. Just too costly.

Carbon fiber???
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« Reply #22 on: January 08, 2011, 09:23:36 AM »

So, no chance in hell the original mold, machines, equipment, are sitting around somewhere?  Maybe?
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« Reply #23 on: January 08, 2011, 05:35:55 PM »

So, no chance in hell the original mold, machines, equipment, are sitting around somewhere?  Maybe?

Don't quote me but I've heard a bunch of the original moulding and dies were destroyed in a fire way back when.
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« Reply #24 on: January 08, 2011, 06:03:10 PM »

So, no chance in hell the original mold, machines, equipment, are sitting around somewhere?  Maybe?

Don't quote me but I've heard a bunch of the original moulding and dies were destroyed in a fire way back when.

i  read  , that in the 70s  chrysler sold  all the tooling for sheet metal  ,  & engine blocks  , for scrap !!   but who knows  shruggy popcrn
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