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Which rear view mirror is right for a 68? UPDATE

Started by bull, April 06, 2011, 01:43:15 PM

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bull

Sorry, I meant to put this in Interior. Anyway, what is the correct rear view mirror for an early 68 Charger? I think it's the top one with the silver metal day/night lever (which I bought at a swap meet) but I think the car had the black plastic day/night lever style in it when I bought it.

Also, do I have the correct base?

68 RT

Top mirror is correct, the base is for 70 and up.

bull

Crap! That's what I was starting to think about that base. :brickwall: I doubt I'll find just a correct base for it.

Is the other mirror for a 1970 and up too?

BananaDan

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BananaDan

Also, this thread mentions that 68 and early 69 base/stems should be squarish.  I've never seen one, no pics.

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bull

I think it's this Star Trek looking thing.

charger490

bull i have the last one you showed pm me

UFO

All of the '69's(4) that I had used the round mirror stem.

Just 6T9 CHGR

My '69 (and most that I have seen personally) have the squarish one....

Sorry dont have any full on pics... ;)


Even the XP Hemi has it  ;)
http://www.1969chargerregistry.com/gallery/press/hemiXP?full=1
Chris' '69 Charger R/T


bull

Quote from: Just 6T9 CHGR on April 06, 2011, 07:03:57 PM
My '69 (and most that I have seen personally) have the squarish one....

Sorry dont have any full on pics... ;)


Even the XP Hemi has it  ;)
http://www.1969chargerregistry.com/gallery/press/hemiXP?full=1

So does that last pic I posted look like what you have Chris?

A383Wing

I think bull's top mirror pic is also correct for 67 chargers as well...

tan top

Quote from: bull on April 06, 2011, 03:30:46 PM
I think it's this Star Trek looking thing.

thats what mine is like !  69   with an SPD of 22nd of november 68 !!  although can't remember that groove down the post though !!   will have to check  :scratchchin: :yesnod:
Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

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http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
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Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

charger490

this is the mirror i have
18720-2999021-cav2

tan top

Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

Charger Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,86777.0.html
Chargers in the background where you least expect them 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,97261.0.html
C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.925.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

bull


bull

Well now. I'm experiencing a new and interesting dilemma with this mirror thing. As best I can tell it seems the base that was in my car already is correct but the stem and mirror were wrong. I bought a base and stem from charger490 but the base bolt pattern is way off on that back hole. But I think I can use his stem in my old base and pull this off. :shruggy: :scratchchin: Maybe...

Can anyone with an early 68 charger post some mirror pics for me?

bull

Quote from: tan top on April 07, 2011, 09:45:23 AM
yep just checked  mine is the same  :yesnod:

The same as which? You mean it's got the groove?

tan top

Quote from: charger490 on April 07, 2011, 08:40:20 AM
this is the mirror i have
18720-2999021-cav2

yep  same as charger490 s picture  :yesnod:
Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

Charger Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,86777.0.html
Chargers in the background where you least expect them 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,97261.0.html
C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.925.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

Just 6T9 CHGR

Sorry Curtis, missed this one....yes my mirror looks like the last pic you posted...Same as charger490's
Chris' '69 Charger R/T


bull

Quote from: Just 6T9 CHGR on April 13, 2011, 05:51:05 PM
Sorry Curtis, missed this one....yes my mirror looks like the last pic you posted...Same as charger490's

Actually, if you look real close it isn't the same. At least not the base. The stem part of the base and mirror look the same but if you compare his base to yours they are different. Of course the side he's got the picture of up there is hard to see on a car because it's mounted toward the windshield but it's quite a bit deeper than yours.

Yours is like the one on the right below with the short groove above the rear mounting hole. Same bolt pattern as mine where the two front ones match but the single rear mounting hole is nearly 1/2" off.

1BAD68

This one is in mine September 1967 build date

bull

Cool! We haven't seen that style of stem yet. :lol: :rotz: :brickwall: :P :'(

Just 6T9 CHGR

Chris' '69 Charger R/T


Dans 68

Here are a few of my '68 with it's scheduled build date of 12-26-67.

Dan
1973 SE 400 727  1 of 19,645                                        1968 383 4bbl 4spds  2 of 259

bull

 :lol: That arm is different yet. :icon_smile_blackeye: I've seen several examples of that one though, usually on Ebay. Your car is 13 days older than mine so if the mirror is original to yours that's probably what mine would have had.

Crap! Well, at least I've got the right base. Now I have to decide what I'm going to do for a stem/arm/whatever.

elacruze

I have both the short and long square arm mirrors, the short one came in the '68 R/T and the long one (like last photo) came in the '68 318 A/C car, which had a '70 interior. Both had the narrow base mount. The R/T mirror head has the grooves, don't recall about the other.
1968 505" EFI 4-speed
1968 D200 Camper Special, 318/2bbl/4spd/4.10
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Torque converters are for construction equipment.

Dans 68

Curtis, If you want I will ask the previous owner if he ever changed it out. He got the car in '88.

Dan
1973 SE 400 727  1 of 19,645                                        1968 383 4bbl 4spds  2 of 259

bull

Quote from: Dans 68 on April 13, 2011, 11:25:10 PM
Curtis, If you want I will ask the previous owner if he ever changed it out. He got the car in '88.

Dan

If you don't mind. :2thumbs: Thanks.

westcoastdodge

my december '67 build,think its the original :2thumbs:
I don't care what is is designed to do,I want to know what it can do.
Gene Kranz

bull

So both of these mirror arms are supposedly from December 67 Chargers? :RantExplode: Ok, I'm just going to use the one I've got. :P



Dans 68

Curtis,

My rear view mirror is original to the car, as far as the last owner knows.

Dan
1973 SE 400 727  1 of 19,645                                        1968 383 4bbl 4spds  2 of 259

bull


tan top


Quote from: bull on April 16, 2011, 01:06:31 PM
So both of these mirror arms are supposedly from December 67 Chargers? :RantExplode: Ok, I'm just going to use the one I've got. :P




:scratchchin: perhaps it was  down to what assembly plant the car was built at !! :scratchchin:
Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

Charger Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,86777.0.html
Chargers in the background where you least expect them 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,97261.0.html
C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.925.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

bull

 :scratchchin: Maybe. :shruggy: Do you guys know where your cars were built?

Dans 68

Unless I'm missing something all early 1968 Chargers were built in Hamtramct, Michigan. St. Louis assembled Chargers were built in early '68, starting in March I believe. I have to believe that the assembly line just had bins of different supplier stalks/posts that the assembler's grabbed when needed.  :Twocents:

Dan
1973 SE 400 727  1 of 19,645                                        1968 383 4bbl 4spds  2 of 259

bull

Quote from: Dans 68 on April 17, 2011, 08:53:02 PM
I have to believe that the assembly line just had bins of different supplier stalks/posts that the assembler's grabbed when needed.  :Twocents:

Dan

That could be the case. :shruggy: I guess we can chalk this up to another odd, early 68 quirk.

SRT-68

Quote from: Dans 68 on April 13, 2011, 10:31:26 PM
Here are a few of my '68 with it's scheduled build date of 12-26-67.

Dan

This one looks correct because only the '68 had the longer stem. '69 and '70 stems are shorter because headrests were added to the seats. :Twocents:

bull

Quote from: SRT-68 on April 18, 2011, 10:07:54 AM
Quote from: Dans 68 on April 13, 2011, 10:31:26 PM
Here are a few of my '68 with it's scheduled build date of 12-26-67.

Dan

This one looks correct because only the '68 had the longer stem. '69 and '70 stems are shorter because headrests were added to the seats. :Twocents:

Huh? :o No head rests in 68?

Rolling_Thunder

Quote from: charger490 on April 07, 2011, 08:40:20 AM
this is the mirror i have
18720-2999021-cav2

I have that mirror as well....     My car was built Aug 1967
1968 Dodge Charger - 6.1L Hemi / 6-speed / 3.55 Sure Grip

2013 Dodge Challenger R/T - 5.7L Hemi / 6-speed / 3.73 Limited Slip

1964 Dodge Polara 500 - 440 / 4-speed / 3.91 Sure Grip

1973 Dodge Challenger Rallye - 340 / A-518 / 3.23 Sure Grip

Troy

Quote from: bull on April 18, 2011, 10:39:52 AM
Quote from: SRT-68 on April 18, 2011, 10:07:54 AM
Quote from: Dans 68 on April 13, 2011, 10:31:26 PM
Here are a few of my '68 with it's scheduled build date of 12-26-67.

Dan

This one looks correct because only the '68 had the longer stem. '69 and '70 stems are shorter because headrests were added to the seats. :Twocents:

Huh? :o No head rests in 68?
They were optional in 68. My R/T has them.

Troy
Sarcasm detector, that's a real good invention.

Just 6T9 CHGR

Quote from: Troy on April 19, 2011, 08:28:06 AM
Quote from: bull on April 18, 2011, 10:39:52 AM
Quote from: SRT-68 on April 18, 2011, 10:07:54 AM
Quote from: Dans 68 on April 13, 2011, 10:31:26 PM
Here are a few of my '68 with it's scheduled build date of 12-26-67.

Dan

This one looks correct because only the '68 had the longer stem. '69 and '70 stems are shorter because headrests were added to the seats. :Twocents:

Huh? :o No head rests in 68?
They were optional in 68. My R/T has them.

Troy

And optional in '69 up until 1/1/69 where they became mandatory :Twocents:
Chris' '69 Charger R/T


bull

So, how about this headrest = short mirror arm/no head rest = long mrror arm theory?

bull

Well, I used my old base and the arm I got from Don (charger490) and it turned out fairly well. I actually finished it about a week ago but forgot to post pics. The hard part was finding a decent paint match because most silvers are just too metallic. And the base I have is pretty dinged up but it will work. It looks like the ball must have gotten loose in the past and some dummy thought peening it would tighten it up. :rotz: Anyway, I media blasted the arm and base and then primed/painted them. The ball, plate and fasteners were all plated with clear zinc and I think he had a helluva time with the ball because (he claims) it's stainless. Ooops. I didn't know. :shruggy: The mirror itself is just a good original I found at a swap meet that cost me $10-$15 IIRC.