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My Daytona's next look... NASCAR steelies

Started by hemi68charger, April 21, 2011, 11:12:45 AM

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hemi68charger

OK, I'm bored here at my desk getting ready for lunch and monitoring my production seismic jobs.

Well, thought I'd share my potential change of pace look. Apparently, it looks like I'll be keeping this Daytona of mine since no one thinks it's worth what I'm asking and the bidding ( not that that's a reflection of the true value) isn't getting any higher than say $90K. Pete, I'm still holding out hope...

But regardless. I'm sending off some clusters to Shannon at redlinegaugeworks and saw this image on his homepage top banner. I LOVE the look... Would love to find some of them older NASCAR Eagles with either the raised yellow or white letters. I think the Eagle GT II's I have on the car now are still available. 15x8 steelies powder coated semi-gloss-to-gloss black should do the ticket..
Troy
'69 Charger Daytona 440 auto 4.10 Dana ( now 426 HEMI )
'70 Superbird 426 Hemi auto: Lindsley Bonneville Salt Flat world record holder (220.2mph)
Houston Mopar Club Connection

tan top

Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

Charger Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,86777.0.html
Chargers in the background where you least expect them 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,97261.0.html
C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.925.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

Aero426

I'm sorry, but the modern D hole stock car wheels just do not look right on a wing car.    It's a tough look to get right because the original wheels are 5 on 5 and are pretty much unobtanium.   I also think the yellow "look at me" tars look hokey.  But that's just me.   

Bart Wheels make the early 70's GN 5 slot wheel off the original tooling.  I think they can do them 15 x 8 and the smaller bolt pattern.  This is what used to be called the Clement Wheel.   At least some Daytonas ran these in 1971.




hemi68charger

Quote from: Aero426 on April 21, 2011, 11:27:14 AM
I'm sorry, but the modern D hole stock car wheels just do not look right on a wing car.    It's a tough look to get right because the original wheels are 5 on 5 and are pretty much unobtanium.   I also think the yellow "look at me" tars look hokey.  But that's just me.    

Bart Wheels make the early 70's GN 5 slot wheel off the original tooling.  I think they can do them 15 x 8 and the smaller bolt pattern.  This is what used to be called the Clement Wheel.   At least some Daytonas ran these in 1971.






I was thinking of the solid OEM mopar steelies, not the multiple hole wheels in the picture.. But, now that you have shown them Doug, I too think the 5 oval-hole wheels in the vintage picture there is the key... I think I will investigate that company.......  :2thumbs:

PS: The picture I posted and the one tan did look to be the same car, the car Julius did some time ago.........
Troy
'69 Charger Daytona 440 auto 4.10 Dana ( now 426 HEMI )
'70 Superbird 426 Hemi auto: Lindsley Bonneville Salt Flat world record holder (220.2mph)
Houston Mopar Club Connection

tan top

Quote from: Aero426 on April 21, 2011, 11:27:14 AM
I'm sorry, but the modern D hole stock car wheels just do not look right on a wing car.    It's a tough look to get right because the original wheels are 5 on 5 and are pretty much unobtanium.   I also think the yellow "look at me" tars look hokey.  But that's just me.   

Bart Wheels make the early 70's GN 5 slot wheel off the original tooling.  I think they can do them 15 x 8 and the smaller bolt pattern.  This is what used to be called the Clement Wheel.   At least some Daytonas ran these in 1971.





yeah thats the ones :yesnod:  :coolgleamA: wanted that sort of look on mine with them wheels , but went with stock style steel wheels in the end  :scratchchin:
Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

Charger Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,86777.0.html
Chargers in the background where you least expect them 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,97261.0.html
C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.925.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

moparstuart

 :popcrn:  dodge truck wheels
GO SELL CRAZY SOMEWHERE ELSE WE ARE ALL STOCKED UP HERE

oldcarnut

Here's a couple of threads with another car or  two with them.  The yellow letter tires have been discontinued for years.  I liked them too but couldn't find any anywhere.  If you find a supply of them still left let me know.
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,60064.0.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,67082.0.html

Aero426

Yes, Waynes Little Red Truck wheels look good. 

moparstuart

Quote from: Aero426 on April 21, 2011, 01:36:18 PM
Yes, Waynes Little Red Truck wheels look good.  
not too bad on a mercury either
GO SELL CRAZY SOMEWHERE ELSE WE ARE ALL STOCKED UP HERE


C500

I'm a big fan of the black steelies with lettered tires. The Daytona posted by Tan Top looks the business  :drool5:

Here's a shot of my 500 with one of the wheel options I'll be using

"An aggressive exterior with power to match was enough to pull in the performance boys-especially when abetted by a pair of pipes blaring out the back, and brawny red-sidewall rubber hitting the pavement."  

"........the four speed box changes cogs with the precision of a sharp axe striking soft pine."

hemi68charger

Quote from: Kiwi68 on April 21, 2011, 04:35:31 PM
I'm a big fan of the black steelies with lettered tires. The Daytona posted by Tan Top looks the business  :drool5:

Here's a shot of my 500 with one of the wheels options I'll be using



That's what I'm talkin' 'bout !!!!   :2thumbs:
Troy
'69 Charger Daytona 440 auto 4.10 Dana ( now 426 HEMI )
'70 Superbird 426 Hemi auto: Lindsley Bonneville Salt Flat world record holder (220.2mph)
Houston Mopar Club Connection

randr

scared to show pics of my car with the tires! yikes!!!! well rip me to pieces!
I'm Bored! what to do next......

hemi68charger

Quote from: randr on April 21, 2011, 07:14:28 PM
scared to show pics of my car with the tires! yikes!!!! well rip me to pieces!

Rip you to pieces? Heck, she looks awesome.. Is she on jack stands in the rear or are those new springs? Looks a little high?
Troy
'69 Charger Daytona 440 auto 4.10 Dana ( now 426 HEMI )
'70 Superbird 426 Hemi auto: Lindsley Bonneville Salt Flat world record holder (220.2mph)
Houston Mopar Club Connection

randr

new springs....and its on dollies i think its high though, might need a lowering kit.
I'm Bored! what to do next......

hemi68charger

Quote from: randr on April 21, 2011, 09:06:46 PM
new springs....and its on dollies i think its high though, might need a lowering kit.

I had that problem once with a new set, ended up finding some good original R/T springs... It'll look great with it lowered slightly....
Troy
'69 Charger Daytona 440 auto 4.10 Dana ( now 426 HEMI )
'70 Superbird 426 Hemi auto: Lindsley Bonneville Salt Flat world record holder (220.2mph)
Houston Mopar Club Connection

moparstuart

i think these would look great on a grand national themed car
GO SELL CRAZY SOMEWHERE ELSE WE ARE ALL STOCKED UP HERE

Patronus

Bassetts are nice, and light too.. made in Wiscompton
'73 Cuda 340 5spd RMS
'69 Charger 383 "Luci"
'08 CRF 450r
'12.5 450SX FE

WINGIN IT

Quote from: randr on April 21, 2011, 07:14:28 PM
scared to show pics of my car with the tires! yikes!!!! well rip me to pieces!

Freakin' great !  :2thumbs: Love em !  Just add some dog dishes and yer done  :icon_smile_big:

Can't say I care for the plain black wheels ( with or without holes) and no hubcaps , sorry Troy.
To each their own  ;)

Aero426

Here's the look you want.   Troy, you know you want to put some magnetic #71 numbers on it.   :yesnod:


randr

Quote from: WINGIN IT on April 23, 2011, 09:15:26 AM
Quote from: randr on April 21, 2011, 07:14:28 PM
scared to show pics of my car with the tires! yikes!!!! well rip me to pieces!

Freakin' great !  :2thumbs: Love em !  Just add some dog dishes and yer done  :icon_smile_big:

Can't say I care for the plain black wheels ( with or without holes) and no hubcaps , sorry Troy.
To each their own  ;)

had moons ordered since January! damn vender's!
I'm Bored! what to do next......

hemi68charger

Quote from: Aero426 on April 23, 2011, 11:49:22 AM
Here's the look you want.   Troy, you know you want to put some magnetic #71 numbers on it.   :yesnod:


Maybe I need to paint the stripe and wing white and get the #71 K&K Insurance magnets...  I'll be Tim's stunt-double for his real K&K..  :icon_smile_big:
Troy
'69 Charger Daytona 440 auto 4.10 Dana ( now 426 HEMI )
'70 Superbird 426 Hemi auto: Lindsley Bonneville Salt Flat world record holder (220.2mph)
Houston Mopar Club Connection

69_500

I wonder what happened to that car hauler. That would be a great one to find.

Troy, I think that you should just give in and take my bid of $90k for your car.  :nana:

hemi68charger

Quote from: 69_500 on April 23, 2011, 02:30:34 PM
I wonder what happened to that car hauler. That would be a great one to find.

Troy, I think that you should just give in and take my bid of $90k for your car.  :nana:

That was you? Someone else did too......... Come on man, save some more coin...........  :scratchchin:
Troy
'69 Charger Daytona 440 auto 4.10 Dana ( now 426 HEMI )
'70 Superbird 426 Hemi auto: Lindsley Bonneville Salt Flat world record holder (220.2mph)
Houston Mopar Club Connection

69_500

Nope wasn't me. Just yanking your chain. If I had $90K right now I'd probably make you an offer of that plus my car but I'm short of that at this current time.

This new house is costing me an arm and a leg. Costing me about $150 a week in gas just to go to work now that I live 57 miles (each way) from my job.

hemi68charger

Quote from: 69_500 on April 23, 2011, 09:12:26 PM

Costing me about $150 a week in gas just to go to work now that I live 57 miles (each way) from my job.

:o
Troy
'69 Charger Daytona 440 auto 4.10 Dana ( now 426 HEMI )
'70 Superbird 426 Hemi auto: Lindsley Bonneville Salt Flat world record holder (220.2mph)
Houston Mopar Club Connection

FJ5WING

Quote from: 69_500 on April 23, 2011, 02:30:34 PM
I wonder what happened to that car hauler. That would be a great one to find.


I dont think its a hauler but maybe a tow vehicle....dont see how its long enough for that car pictured in the foreground.
wingless now, but still around.

1970Moparmann

I personally love the picture of your car in your avatar!!
My name is Mike and I'm a Moparholic!

Aero426

Quote from: FJ5WING on April 24, 2011, 09:00:21 AM
Quote from: 69_500 on April 23, 2011, 02:30:34 PM
I wonder what happened to that car hauler. That would be a great one to find.


I dont think its a hauler but maybe a tow vehicle....dont see how its long enough for that car pictured in the foreground.

Yes, all the K & K Daytonas were pulled on open trailers.   I don't think anyone in NASCAR had an enclosed rig at that time.   

Arnie Cunningham

Who makes the best reproductions of 15x7 steel wheels found on some Superbirds?  Will the factory dog dish hubcaps fit on them?  Apparently the originals are impossible to find.
Thanks
Brennan R. Cook RM23U0A169492 EV2 Manual Black Buckets Armrest 14" Rallyes
Arnie Cunningham was the Plymouth obsessed youth in the novel/movie Christine.
Brcook.com contains the entire NASCAR shipping list of Superbirds sorted by VIN and a number of other pages dedicated to production information.

ramairthree

some of these for some old school authentic on the street driver look...


hemi68charger

Quote from: Arnie Cunningham on April 24, 2011, 04:00:15 PM
Who makes the best reproductions of 15x7 steel wheels found on some Superbirds?  Will the factory dog dish hubcaps fit on them?  Apparently the originals are impossible to find.
Thanks

Are the salvage yards few and far in between out there? All the 15x7 steelies I have came from 5th Avenues and Cordobas... The inner portion of the rim is like the originals as well, don't have the bump on it at the rim/center interface...

Troy
'69 Charger Daytona 440 auto 4.10 Dana ( now 426 HEMI )
'70 Superbird 426 Hemi auto: Lindsley Bonneville Salt Flat world record holder (220.2mph)
Houston Mopar Club Connection

nascarxx29

Old school chrome reverse with the modern Nascar tires
1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

oldcarnut

The only size in that tire I was able to find when I was looking was P225/60R16.  15" doesn't seem to have many options now especially in a 245-255 60 :rotz:

Bob T

Back to the yellow lettering on the tyres, one of the guys out here made his own Goodyear stencils and applied them before the big drive to a week long show, they really rocked on his car.

Like your Nascar Steelies too  :2thumbs:


http://www.flickr.com/photos/skul4aface/2466411163/in/set-72157604893213271

and on car

http://www.flickr.com/photos/skul4aface/2467063694/in/set-72157604893213271
Old Dog, Old Tricks.

tan top


Quote from: nascarxx29 on April 24, 2011, 08:55:26 PM
Old school chrome reverse with the modern Nascar tires


i love that look also :drool5:  :coolgleamA:  did think about putting a similar set up on mine  at one stage



Quote from: Bob T on April 26, 2011, 01:01:16 AM
Back to the yellow lettering on the tyres, one of the guys out here made his own Goodyear stencils and applied them before the big drive to a week long show, they really rocked on his car.

Like your Na scar Steelies too  :2thumbs:


http://www.flickr.com/photos/skul4aface/2466411163/in/set-72157604893213271

and on car

http://www.flickr.com/photos/skul4aface/2467063694/in/set-72157604893213271

looks tough :coolgleamA:
Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

Charger Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,86777.0.html
Chargers in the background where you least expect them 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,97261.0.html
C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.925.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

hemi68charger

Quote from: Bob T on April 26, 2011, 01:01:16 AM
Back to the yellow lettering on the tyres, one of the guys out here made his own Goodyear stencils and applied them before the big drive to a week long show, they really rocked on his car.

Like your Nascar Steelies too  :2thumbs:


http://www.flickr.com/photos/skul4aface/2466411163/in/set-72157604893213271

and on car

http://www.flickr.com/photos/skul4aface/2467063694/in/set-72157604893213271

That's pretty impressive.. I love the look of the big letter Goodyear Eagles.. Just like the Cup cars.....   :2thumbs:
Troy
'69 Charger Daytona 440 auto 4.10 Dana ( now 426 HEMI )
'70 Superbird 426 Hemi auto: Lindsley Bonneville Salt Flat world record holder (220.2mph)
Houston Mopar Club Connection

Howie

Here is a set of 275 60 15`s mounted on 15X9.5 steel wheels.

Richard Cranium

Quote from: Bob T on April 26, 2011, 01:01:16 AM
Back to the yellow lettering on the tyres, one of the guys out here made his own Goodyear stencils and applied them before the big drive to a week long show, they really rocked on his car.

Like your Nascar Steelies too  :2thumbs:


http://www.flickr.com/photos/skul4aface/2466411163/in/set-72157604893213271

and on car

http://www.flickr.com/photos/skul4aface/2467063694/in/set-72157604893213271

What did he paint the letters with & how are they holding up?
I am Dr. Remulac

Bob T

Quote from: Richard Cranium on April 26, 2011, 05:16:21 PM
Quote from: Bob T on April 26, 2011, 01:01:16 AM
Back to the yellow lettering on the tyres, one of the guys out here made his own Goodyear stencils and applied them before the big drive to a week long show, they really rocked on his car.

Like your Nascar Steelies too  :2thumbs:


http://www.flickr.com/photos/skul4aface/2466411163/in/set-72157604893213271

and on car

http://www.flickr.com/photos/skul4aface/2467063694/in/set-72157604893213271

What did he paint the letters with & how are they holding up?



Just some yellow rattle can number I think, , but with sidewall flex I expect it was only a few weeks/month worth of fun before it flaked and expired . There are a few more shots of it on his site. It was, without a doubt one of the coolest cars at Beach Hop that year.

Would some sort of yellow etch primer hold on better do you think ? The effort would be worthwhile for a show or summer cruise nights.

Old Dog, Old Tricks.

WINGR

Quote from: Aero426 on April 21, 2011, 11:27:14 AM
I'm sorry, but the modern D hole stock car wheels just do not look right on a wing car.    It's a tough look to get right because the original wheels are 5 on 5 and are pretty much unobtanium.   I also think the yellow "look at me" tars look hokey.  But that's just me.    

Bart Wheels make the early 70's GN 5 slot wheel off the original tooling.  I think they can do them 15 x 8 and the smaller bolt pattern.  This is what used to be called the Clement Wheel.   At least some Daytonas ran these in 1971.





Help requested

Hi i am thinking about putting a set of these 15x7 or 15x8 Vintage Style Bart Racing Five Slots on my Bird with a set of 255/60R15 Eagle GT11's all the way around. The only thing is that I am not sure what the backspacing should be to fit properly on a Bird without rubbing. Also does anyone know if having disc brakes in the front make any difference in the wheel backspacing as well? Thanks

WINGR/Steve