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Started by A34, October 27, 2011, 08:15:09 PM

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A34

I have a NOS Charger 500 grille emblem and was wondering what it's worth? I had been saving it for the "500" I hope to buy someday. Debating on selling it, but not sure what it's worth in today's market. Any ideas?

Thanks !
Looking for NOS parts for 69 Charger - whatcha got?
God Bless America, Our Troops and Their Families !
Deo Vindice

hemi68charger

mmmmm ??????

Trade ya for something..........  :icon_smile_cool:

Lookin' for anything?
Troy
'69 Charger Daytona 440 auto 4.10 Dana ( now 426 HEMI )
'70 Superbird 426 Hemi auto: Lindsley Bonneville Salt Flat world record holder (220.2mph)
Houston Mopar Club Connection

xs29j8Bullitt

Quote from: A34 on October 27, 2011, 08:15:09 PM
I have a NOS Charger 500 grille emblem and was wondering what it's worth? I had been saving it for the "500" I hope to buy someday. Debating on selling it, but not sure what it's worth in today's market. Any ideas?

Thanks !

What is the part number and what condition is the plating/finish?  Got a clear pic of it?
After 8 years of downsizing, whats left...
1968 Charger R/T, Automatic, 426 Hemi
1968 Polara 4Dr Sdn, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1968 Polara 4Dr HT, Automatic, 383
1969 Charger 500, 4 Speed, 440 Magnum
1969 Daytona, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1969 Road Runner, 4 Speed, 426 Hemi
1970 `Cuda, Automatic, 440-6BBL
1970 Challenger T/A, Automatic, 340 6 Pack
2004 Ram, Automatic, 5.7L Hemi
2009 Challenger SRT8, Automatic, 6.1L Hemi
<This Space Reserved for a 2016 Challenger SRT Hellcat, 8Sp Automatic,

xs29j8Bullitt

For reference...
After 8 years of downsizing, whats left...
1968 Charger R/T, Automatic, 426 Hemi
1968 Polara 4Dr Sdn, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1968 Polara 4Dr HT, Automatic, 383
1969 Charger 500, 4 Speed, 440 Magnum
1969 Daytona, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1969 Road Runner, 4 Speed, 426 Hemi
1970 `Cuda, Automatic, 440-6BBL
1970 Challenger T/A, Automatic, 340 6 Pack
2004 Ram, Automatic, 5.7L Hemi
2009 Challenger SRT8, Automatic, 6.1L Hemi
<This Space Reserved for a 2016 Challenger SRT Hellcat, 8Sp Automatic,

xs29j8Bullitt

Then there are the reproductions being sold on eBay by practiced liars...  :flame:

If you have a real NOS correct PN emblem that has little or no shelf wear, I would be interested if you don't do a Troy Trade™  :icon_smile_big:
After 8 years of downsizing, whats left...
1968 Charger R/T, Automatic, 426 Hemi
1968 Polara 4Dr Sdn, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1968 Polara 4Dr HT, Automatic, 383
1969 Charger 500, 4 Speed, 440 Magnum
1969 Daytona, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1969 Road Runner, 4 Speed, 426 Hemi
1970 `Cuda, Automatic, 440-6BBL
1970 Challenger T/A, Automatic, 340 6 Pack
2004 Ram, Automatic, 5.7L Hemi
2009 Challenger SRT8, Automatic, 6.1L Hemi
<This Space Reserved for a 2016 Challenger SRT Hellcat, 8Sp Automatic,

A34

Quote from: hemi68charger on October 27, 2011, 09:00:21 PM
mmmmm ??????

Trade ya for something..........  :icon_smile_cool:

Lookin' for anything?

Well, not really looking for anything at the moment. Could use a nice 4-spd console top plate and trim setup. Not interested in repro, would need to be super nice original.
Looking for NOS parts for 69 Charger - whatcha got?
God Bless America, Our Troops and Their Families !
Deo Vindice

A34

Quote from: xs29j8Bullitt on October 27, 2011, 09:51:01 PM
Then there are the reproductions being sold on eBay by practiced liars...  :flame:

If you have a real NOS correct PN emblem that has little or no shelf wear, I would be interested if you don't do a Troy Trade™  :icon_smile_big:

Well, it's in my secret hiding place, so I'll have to dig it out, take a pic and verify the p/n. Can probably do it this weekend. However, if memory serves me correct, the pins do not look like what you have pictured. They are longer and I believe hollow on the end. So, maybe it's not NOS, or even correct.

I got it many years ago from the New Product development department at Year One. The guy that I got it from said it was used as a sample to compare against the prototype repro part.
Looking for NOS parts for 69 Charger - whatcha got?
God Bless America, Our Troops and Their Families !
Deo Vindice

hemi68charger

Quote from: A34 on October 27, 2011, 10:40:53 PM
Quote from: hemi68charger on October 27, 2011, 09:00:21 PM
mmmmm ??????

Trade ya for something..........  :icon_smile_cool:

Lookin' for anything?

Well, not really looking for anything at the moment. Could use a nice 4-spd console top plate and trim setup. Not interested in repro, would need to be super nice original.

Well, don't have one of those.. Sorry..... Allen? Your turn....  ;D
Troy
'69 Charger Daytona 440 auto 4.10 Dana ( now 426 HEMI )
'70 Superbird 426 Hemi auto: Lindsley Bonneville Salt Flat world record holder (220.2mph)
Houston Mopar Club Connection

paironines

If its got hollow pins it sounds like a grill emblem for a 70 500.

A34

So, the part number on it is - 2901811. I think these hollow pins are covers to protect the  other pins as they look like they slide on.
Looking for NOS parts for 69 Charger - whatcha got?
God Bless America, Our Troops and Their Families !
Deo Vindice

A34

Looking for NOS parts for 69 Charger - whatcha got?
God Bless America, Our Troops and Their Families !
Deo Vindice

xs29j8Bullitt

Quote from: A34 on October 29, 2011, 04:28:44 PM
front shot.

Thanks for posting the pics.  I am fairly certain it is either a repro or a reconditioned used one.  Pull the sleeves off and see what the pins look like...
After 8 years of downsizing, whats left...
1968 Charger R/T, Automatic, 426 Hemi
1968 Polara 4Dr Sdn, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1968 Polara 4Dr HT, Automatic, 383
1969 Charger 500, 4 Speed, 440 Magnum
1969 Daytona, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1969 Road Runner, 4 Speed, 426 Hemi
1970 `Cuda, Automatic, 440-6BBL
1970 Challenger T/A, Automatic, 340 6 Pack
2004 Ram, Automatic, 5.7L Hemi
2009 Challenger SRT8, Automatic, 6.1L Hemi
<This Space Reserved for a 2016 Challenger SRT Hellcat, 8Sp Automatic,

A34

when I look at the emblem the corner of the 5 appears alot sharper than when I take a pic and post it. Oh well, here are the pins.
Looking for NOS parts for 69 Charger - whatcha got?
God Bless America, Our Troops and Their Families !
Deo Vindice

A34

Looking for NOS parts for 69 Charger - whatcha got?
God Bless America, Our Troops and Their Families !
Deo Vindice

XS29LA47V21

 just bought a "NOS 69-500" this last month, paid $60-65, was concerned if it was right for that price, what showed is a nice old 70 piece with short studs... not right, clearly to much as it is worth $0 to me as a 70, heading towards screwed to tool box...  Did buy an NOS 69 back RT in box also, believe it is indeed old pcs, was quite a bid more.  Still looking for more NOS stuff myself :pity:.

xs29j8Bullitt

Quote from: A34 on October 30, 2011, 03:55:48 PM
when I look at the emblem the corner of the 5 appears alot sharper than when I take a pic and post it. Oh well, here are the pins.

You might try mounting the emblem to a sheet of paper, light cardboard, or styrofoam and scanning it in like I did on the first two images below.  The backside pic that you posted looks more "NOS" than then the frontal pics.   It MIGHT be a NOS part that was polished to remove shelf wear prior to making a mold off of it...  :shruggy:  The third pic below shows the backsides of the repros.  The fourth pic shows a known NOS, a close-up of the "5" and the backside...

At this point I cannot be certain what its origin is... anyone else care to chime in with their thoughts?  :popcrn:
After 8 years of downsizing, whats left...
1968 Charger R/T, Automatic, 426 Hemi
1968 Polara 4Dr Sdn, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1968 Polara 4Dr HT, Automatic, 383
1969 Charger 500, 4 Speed, 440 Magnum
1969 Daytona, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1969 Road Runner, 4 Speed, 426 Hemi
1970 `Cuda, Automatic, 440-6BBL
1970 Challenger T/A, Automatic, 340 6 Pack
2004 Ram, Automatic, 5.7L Hemi
2009 Challenger SRT8, Automatic, 6.1L Hemi
<This Space Reserved for a 2016 Challenger SRT Hellcat, 8Sp Automatic,

Aero426

The originals appear to have a flat or slightly concave finish to the numbers.    At least that is what I see.

Highbanked Hauler

 Is there any such thing as reconditioning an original emblem :shruggy:
69 Charger 500, original owner  
68 Charger former parts car in process of rebuilding
92 Cummins Turbo Diesel
04 PT Cruiser

red69superbee


nascarxx29

1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

A34

Quote from: red69superbee on November 24, 2011, 11:17:25 PM
So as usual, the repros arent exact??

I have not had a chance to take any more pics of mine, but I think it's the real deal. I do appreciate all the pics posted of repro's, so I could  compare.  :2thumbs:

In my personal experience, very few repro's come close to  being exact. One of the main problems with emblems is the material they make them out of is soft and they "sag" after awhile on the car.  I'd much rather try and recondition (Or buy NOS) an old emblem than buy a repro if it were for a nice show car and not a driver.
Looking for NOS parts for 69 Charger - whatcha got?
God Bless America, Our Troops and Their Families !
Deo Vindice

xs29j8Bullitt

Quote from: nascarxx29 on November 25, 2011, 12:14:10 AM
Is the one at Brads NOS right
http://www.bradsnosmopar.com/nosmo69dococ.html

No... it is not even claimed to be the correct emblem... have a look at the description.
After 8 years of downsizing, whats left...
1968 Charger R/T, Automatic, 426 Hemi
1968 Polara 4Dr Sdn, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1968 Polara 4Dr HT, Automatic, 383
1969 Charger 500, 4 Speed, 440 Magnum
1969 Daytona, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1969 Road Runner, 4 Speed, 426 Hemi
1970 `Cuda, Automatic, 440-6BBL
1970 Challenger T/A, Automatic, 340 6 Pack
2004 Ram, Automatic, 5.7L Hemi
2009 Challenger SRT8, Automatic, 6.1L Hemi
<This Space Reserved for a 2016 Challenger SRT Hellcat, 8Sp Automatic,

Davtona

Quote from: A34 on November 25, 2011, 06:16:58 PM
Quote from: red69superbee on November 24, 2011, 11:17:25 PM
So as usual, the repros arent exact??
One of the main problems with emblems is the material they make them out of is soft and they "sag" after awhile on the car.

:o
I did not realize they are that bad.

ACUDANUT

 Questions is, Who is going to unbolt/screw the emblems and check for a correct part number. :scratchchin:

xs29j8Bullitt

Quote from: ACUDANUT on November 26, 2011, 10:38:29 AM
Questions is, Who is going to unbolt/screw the emblems and check for a correct part number. :scratchchin:

:shruggy:  No need to do all that... pin length and retention method are completely different, a quick glance behind the grille or in the trunk will tell.  Bonding on phony pins and nuts after installing the later emblem with small screws might make it seem legit.

After 8 years of downsizing, whats left...
1968 Charger R/T, Automatic, 426 Hemi
1968 Polara 4Dr Sdn, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1968 Polara 4Dr HT, Automatic, 383
1969 Charger 500, 4 Speed, 440 Magnum
1969 Daytona, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1969 Road Runner, 4 Speed, 426 Hemi
1970 `Cuda, Automatic, 440-6BBL
1970 Challenger T/A, Automatic, 340 6 Pack
2004 Ram, Automatic, 5.7L Hemi
2009 Challenger SRT8, Automatic, 6.1L Hemi
<This Space Reserved for a 2016 Challenger SRT Hellcat, 8Sp Automatic,

rainbow4jd

Quote from: A34 on October 27, 2011, 08:15:09 PM
I have a NOS Charger 500 grille emblem and was wondering what it's worth? I had been saving it for the "500" I hope to buy someday. Debating on selling it, but not sure what it's worth in today's market. Any ideas?

Thanks !

ONE MILLLLLLION DOLLARS!


I know I am going to come off as a real pisser here - but it ain't worth nothing until you have a buyer.    If you want to sell it, just list it on Craigslist or Ebay and be done with it.  Whatever its worth, is what someone will actually pay you for it.    What you might imagine its worth and what it's actually worth are two different things.   Anybody that gives you a price on here is just blowing smoke - UNLESS they are saying that's what THEY will pay you for it.


So back to my original point - it's worth ONE MILLLLLION DOLLARS  to the guy who has a million dollars to spend and a charger that is incomplete without it.  All you've got to do is find that person.

Good Luck.

rainbow4jd

No offense intended... but you asked "what is it worth?"

I'm just being cranky today... had to go shopping at the mall with the wife.

xs29j8Bullitt

Quote from: rainbow4jd on November 26, 2011, 06:29:52 PM
No offense intended... but you asked "what is it worth?"

I'm just being cranky today... had to go shopping at the mall with the wife.

What happened... Did she spend
QuoteONE MILLLLLLION DOLLARS!
:shruggy:

Seems like a legit question to me... :Twocents:  Got a bit lengthy trying to figure what "it" was...  :popcrn:
After 8 years of downsizing, whats left...
1968 Charger R/T, Automatic, 426 Hemi
1968 Polara 4Dr Sdn, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1968 Polara 4Dr HT, Automatic, 383
1969 Charger 500, 4 Speed, 440 Magnum
1969 Daytona, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1969 Road Runner, 4 Speed, 426 Hemi
1970 `Cuda, Automatic, 440-6BBL
1970 Challenger T/A, Automatic, 340 6 Pack
2004 Ram, Automatic, 5.7L Hemi
2009 Challenger SRT8, Automatic, 6.1L Hemi
<This Space Reserved for a 2016 Challenger SRT Hellcat, 8Sp Automatic,

ACUDANUT

Isn't the 68 Coronet "500"  (on the grill) the same ? :shruggy:

rainbow4jd

Quote from: xs29j8Bullitt on November 26, 2011, 08:01:16 PM
Quote from: rainbow4jd on November 26, 2011, 06:29:52 PM
No offense intended... but you asked "what is it worth?"

I'm just being cranky today... had to go shopping at the mall with the wife.

What happened... Did she spend
QuoteONE MILLLLLLION DOLLARS!
:shruggy:

Seems like a legit question to me... :Twocents:  Got a bit lengthy trying to figure what "it" was...  :popcrn:

Not quite a million - but I could have bought a set of NOS parking lamps for my Bird - for what she paid for a purse!

odcics2

So, what is a fair price to both a buyer and seller? 
Something between $0.00 and a million?   :smilielol:
I've never owned anything but a MoPar. Can you say that?

xs29j8Bullitt

Quote from: odcics2 on August 16, 2013, 03:14:19 PM
So, what is a fair price to both a buyer and seller? 
Something between $0.00 and a million?   :smilielol:

This subject has come up again, a legit NOS 2901811 is coming up for sale... any chance of narrowing the $0 to $1000000 value estimate...?   I guess my WAG would be $150 in absolutely MINT condition with NO shelf-wear, $125 with minimal shelf-wear, $100 with moderate shelf-wear (but not noticeable at 3+ feet)...

No, I will not be the seller........................

After 8 years of downsizing, whats left...
1968 Charger R/T, Automatic, 426 Hemi
1968 Polara 4Dr Sdn, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1968 Polara 4Dr HT, Automatic, 383
1969 Charger 500, 4 Speed, 440 Magnum
1969 Daytona, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1969 Road Runner, 4 Speed, 426 Hemi
1970 `Cuda, Automatic, 440-6BBL
1970 Challenger T/A, Automatic, 340 6 Pack
2004 Ram, Automatic, 5.7L Hemi
2009 Challenger SRT8, Automatic, 6.1L Hemi
<This Space Reserved for a 2016 Challenger SRT Hellcat, 8Sp Automatic,

odcics2

I'd guess 100. higher then those figures...    :Twocents:
I've never owned anything but a MoPar. Can you say that?

Lighthorseman

We should start a pool.  

- odcics2 at $100.00...
- xs29j8Bullitt has $100.00, $125.00 and $150.00 locked in...
- I say $151.00...  
- rainbow4jd is at One millllllllllllllllllllllllion...

Can't wait for DJ to chime in.   :D

Ghoste


odcics2

HEY!!!   I'm at 100. in addition to Allens figures!

Don't sell me short!    :lol:

They don't grow on trees and the repops are junk.   :Twocents:
I've never owned anything but a MoPar. Can you say that?

xs29j8Bullitt

Over the last 6 years, I bought seven "NOS" P/N 2901811 emblems, four of them turning out to actually be NOS and a set of three imposters... well done reproductions, complete with the P/N and Pentastar.   None of the four NOS were flawless, but one was near flawless and a bargain at $45... two others had minor shelfwear, but were quite presentable... while the last had moderate shelfwear and slight finish delamination.  Prices paid ranged from $45 to $85, and the three imposters were $185 for the three...
After 8 years of downsizing, whats left...
1968 Charger R/T, Automatic, 426 Hemi
1968 Polara 4Dr Sdn, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1968 Polara 4Dr HT, Automatic, 383
1969 Charger 500, 4 Speed, 440 Magnum
1969 Daytona, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1969 Road Runner, 4 Speed, 426 Hemi
1970 `Cuda, Automatic, 440-6BBL
1970 Challenger T/A, Automatic, 340 6 Pack
2004 Ram, Automatic, 5.7L Hemi
2009 Challenger SRT8, Automatic, 6.1L Hemi
<This Space Reserved for a 2016 Challenger SRT Hellcat, 8Sp Automatic,

odcics2

Sounds like you don't need anymore, at any price...      :Twocents:
I've never owned anything but a MoPar. Can you say that?

xs29j8Bullitt

Quote from: odcics2 on January 11, 2014, 06:17:22 PM
Sounds like you don't need anymore, at any price...      :Twocents:

Very true, in fact I am trying to recoup some of the miss-spent funds by selling the surplus emblems... in most cases for less than I paid for them.
After 8 years of downsizing, whats left...
1968 Charger R/T, Automatic, 426 Hemi
1968 Polara 4Dr Sdn, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1968 Polara 4Dr HT, Automatic, 383
1969 Charger 500, 4 Speed, 440 Magnum
1969 Daytona, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1969 Road Runner, 4 Speed, 426 Hemi
1970 `Cuda, Automatic, 440-6BBL
1970 Challenger T/A, Automatic, 340 6 Pack
2004 Ram, Automatic, 5.7L Hemi
2009 Challenger SRT8, Automatic, 6.1L Hemi
<This Space Reserved for a 2016 Challenger SRT Hellcat, 8Sp Automatic,

ws23rt

Something like this is about as hard to value as they come.   

Selling to a small group of needy is the main obstacle.

I've been looking for a rear deck lid RT emblem for a 69 coronet for years. I am sure they are out there and for a reasonable price but I need to check every day in all the right places to have a chance. Mean while what I want sits on a rotting car or in a box of stuff somewhere.

So this gets back to what is it worth.   To me ??  A NOS part may pull $100 from my cringing fist. But until a deal is made what I need doesn't enrich the one that has one for sale.

On the other hand if the 500 emblem we are talking about were to be selling for many hundreds of dollars I would be tempted to take the one off my car and replace it with a repo. just for security reasons.

odcics2

Suppose a guy had a new Charger 500 emblem in a shoe box for 45 years.

Suppose he charged you .50 cents a month to store it.... so then you could put it on your car in 2014.

That comes to $270. and we haven't even gotten to the price of the part itself!!     

Puts it all into perspective when looking for NOS parts.   

I've never owned anything but a MoPar. Can you say that?

Ghoste

What if he stole it off the asembly line and I charged him .50 a month not to rat him out?   :D

(I like my version better)

69_500

Allen, would you be willing to part with one of the ones you have purchased? I just need one that is presentable to replace to broken one that has been tied on to my grille for the past 6 years with fishing line.

xs29j8Bullitt

Quote from: 69_500 on January 11, 2014, 10:40:25 PM
Allen, would you be willing to part with one of the ones you have purchased? I just need one that is presentable to replace to broken one that has been tied on to my grille for the past 6 years with fishing line.


Sure Danny, I'll dig out the emblems as soon as I have a chance to.... Are you interested in a Repro w/P/N & Pentastar (the ones claimed to be NOS by the eBay seller I purchased them from), or a shelf worn NOS (probably the one with slight delamination)?  I also have several NOS ones from other model years that would look correct when installed...

After 8 years of downsizing, whats left...
1968 Charger R/T, Automatic, 426 Hemi
1968 Polara 4Dr Sdn, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1968 Polara 4Dr HT, Automatic, 383
1969 Charger 500, 4 Speed, 440 Magnum
1969 Daytona, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1969 Road Runner, 4 Speed, 426 Hemi
1970 `Cuda, Automatic, 440-6BBL
1970 Challenger T/A, Automatic, 340 6 Pack
2004 Ram, Automatic, 5.7L Hemi
2009 Challenger SRT8, Automatic, 6.1L Hemi
<This Space Reserved for a 2016 Challenger SRT Hellcat, 8Sp Automatic,

69_500

Any of the originals that you would be willing to part with. Just let me know a price. Hoping to get a new headliner into my car this year too. Slowly I will get mine to looking more presentable.

ACUDANUT


Old Moparz

The 500 badges on the grille are different.

(1968 & 1969 pictured below)
               Bob                



              I Gotta Stop Taking The Bus

Old Moparz

The 1970 Coronet is similar, but not sure.

The deck lids have a similar badge, but I don't have parts books with numbers for all 3 years.  :shruggy:
               Bob                



              I Gotta Stop Taking The Bus

Ghoste

I think the 69 decklid and fender ones are closer if not the same.  I think the 70 grille one is different.

odcics2

Quote from: Ghoste on January 11, 2014, 09:14:51 PM
What if he stole it off the asembly line and I charged him .50 a month not to rat him out?   :D

(I like my version better)

The guy would be at least 65 to 70 and would tell you to pound sand!    :smilielol:
I've never owned anything but a MoPar. Can you say that?

Ghoste


ACUDANUT

Quote from: Old Moparz on January 14, 2014, 10:34:48 AM
The 500 badges on the grille are different.

(1968 & 1969 pictured below)

That's not the same grill they made the 69 Charger 500's from.

Ghoste


ACUDANUT

The 68 Coronet grill pictured here looks different than the ones I have seen.  Maybe because it is a "500" grill ?  :shruggy:

Ghoste

Sort of.  The grille itself is the same but the trim around it makes it look different.  The emblem on the front is just placed over top of the grille and so forth, when you remove all of the trim and just see it sitting there it becomes the grille you are accustomed to seeing.