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Daytona clone or leave it be?

Started by Indygenerallee, March 02, 2012, 10:29:49 AM

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Indygenerallee

Here are some pics of the Vega plug, I cut under the window as Hotrod did on his and man it laid right down!! nice! fits great I am very happy with the fit! I was looking at my original headliner teeth and looking about modifying the upper piece since it is curved, I think I will make some pie cuts along the backside so I can straighten it out then weld them to the plug. Here are a couple pics of the plug duct taped in!!  :lol: http://www.flickr.com/photos/68837841@N06/6976428931/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/68837841@N06/6830305338/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/68837841@N06/6830300996/
Sold my Charger unfortunately....never got it finished.

moparstuart

Quote from: Indygenerallee on March 12, 2012, 11:30:39 AM
Here are some pics of the Vega plug, I cut under the window as Hotrod did on his and man it laid right down!! nice! fits great I am very happy with the fit! I was looking at my original headliner teeth and looking about modifying the upper piece since it is curved, I think I will make some pie cuts along the backside so I can straighten it out then weld them to the plug. Here are a couple pics of the plug duct taped in!!  :lol: http://www.flickr.com/photos/68837841@N06/6976428931/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/68837841@N06/6830305338/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/68837841@N06/6830300996/
nice  :drool5: :drool5: :drool5: :drool5: :drool5:
GO SELL CRAZY SOMEWHERE ELSE WE ARE ALL STOCKED UP HERE

Indygenerallee

I talked to a guy at Stinger and asked him about them sending me the nosecone with the headlight doors not being cut and he said they have a little groove where the headlights need cut out he said I could always cut it out if I wanted to but I think I will leave the nosecone solid and do small HID lights where the stock Daytona turn signals go with the LED lights beside them.
Sold my Charger unfortunately....never got it finished.

hotrod98

You will save many hours and many dollars by not making the headlamps functional. I think it's worth it.
Even if you made them functional, there's no guarantee that they will stay functional.

I couldn't find the hinge template. I'll call Howie and see if I gave it back to him.


Normal is an illusion. What is normal for the spider is chaos for the fly.
Charles Addams

Indygenerallee

Yeah Hotrod, I really don't even plan on driving at night anyway don't feel like bouncing a coon off the nose!!!  :lol: Who did you buy your closeout panel from? did you make it? I found a Gene Gregory's number I have not tried calling him yet to even see if he still makes them the post was from around 2007 so I am not sure I need to call. And I really appreciate you working on the template! I was planning on picking up some tube stock tomorrow that way when I get the template I can start working on them immediately.
Sold my Charger unfortunately....never got it finished.

hotrod98

I found the hinge template. It was in the front shop. I'll make you a copy.
P.M. me your address.

On a side note, last Friday I sold all of the 69 Charger parts that I removed from my car when I built my Daytona clone. For four years I looked for an incomplete 69 to use the parts on.
Well, a guy called me earlier tonight with a nice 69 Charger project for sale that needs the parts that I sold Friday. Life sucks  :icon_smile_big:


Normal is an illusion. What is normal for the spider is chaos for the fly.
Charles Addams

hotrod98

Last I heard Gene was very ill. Hope he's doing better. He has given me different numbers at different times as to how many deck lid closeout panels that he had left. One time he told me ten and the next time he said a hundred. And, just last year someone told me that they were all gone. I know his dies were accidentaly scrapped a few years ago so he won't be making more. I checked on having the dies made by a local shop and it was ten grand or more. And, they weren't even sure how many I would get from the dies before they were useless. Possibly a hundred or less.

I think I have one stored here that belongs to Stuart. Maybe he will sell it. Don't bet on it though. The last steel one that I had I sold for three hundred. Kinda wish I hadn't sold it.

The part is more cosmetic than structural. You can attach a fiberglass one using panel bond adhesive and it will work fine. Most people will never notice.


Normal is an illusion. What is normal for the spider is chaos for the fly.
Charles Addams

Indygenerallee

Hotrod, Sucks on the 69 Charger! And on the closeout panel it really does not bother me if I get a steel or fiberglass piece just would kinda rather have the steel one, may just make one if I can't find one! I have used plenty of fusor good stuff I used it several times when putting in tailight and tailgate handle filler pieces on bagged trucks, have done a couple bedsides with it as well. I will PM you my address. Thanks!!
Sold my Charger unfortunately....never got it finished.

moparstuart

Quote from: hotrod98 on March 14, 2012, 01:10:18 AM
Last I heard Gene was very ill. Hope he's doing better. He has given me different numbers at different times as to how many deck lid closeout panels that he had left. One time he told me ten and the next time he said a hundred. And, just last year someone told me that they were all gone. I know his dies were accidentaly scrapped a few years ago so he won't be making more. I checked on having the dies made by a local shop and it was ten grand or more. And, they weren't even sure how many I would get from the dies before they were useless. Possibly a hundred or less.

I think I have one stored here that belongs to Stuart. Maybe he will sell it. Don't bet on it though. The last steel one that I had I sold for three hundred. Kinda wish I hadn't sold it.

The part is more cosmetic than structural. You can attach a fiberglass one using panel bond adhesive and it will work fine. Most people will never notice.
there you go trying to sell my parts off again    :D :D :D
GO SELL CRAZY SOMEWHERE ELSE WE ARE ALL STOCKED UP HERE

Charger-Bodie

Gene is doing fine healthwise. We just got one of his closeout panel a couple months ago, so that shoulnt be a problem.  His number: 618 488 7951
68 Charger R/t white with black v/t and red tailstripe. 440 4 speed ,black interior
68 383 auto with a/c and power windows. Now 440 4 speed jj1 gold black interior .
My Charger is a hybrid car, it burns gas and rubber............

moparstuart

Quote from: 1HotDaytona on March 14, 2012, 11:37:48 AM
Gene is doing fine healthwise. We just got one of his closeout panel a couple months ago, so that shoulnt be a problem.  His number: 618 488 7951
stans car ???   :shruggy: :shruggy:
GO SELL CRAZY SOMEWHERE ELSE WE ARE ALL STOCKED UP HERE

Charger-Bodie

Quote from: moparstuart on March 14, 2012, 11:38:30 AM
Quote from: 1HotDaytona on March 14, 2012, 11:37:48 AM
Gene is doing fine healthwise. We just got one of his closeout panel a couple months ago, so that shoulnt be a problem.  His number: 618 488 7951
stans car ???   :shruggy: :shruggy:

Yes.
68 Charger R/t white with black v/t and red tailstripe. 440 4 speed ,black interior
68 383 auto with a/c and power windows. Now 440 4 speed jj1 gold black interior .
My Charger is a hybrid car, it burns gas and rubber............

Indygenerallee

Thanks, I will have to give him a call. Just went and picked up my complete 2005 5.7 Hemi and 545RFE transmission today for $1100.00!!! The guy lost his job and was hard up for cash he gave me the receipt what he paid for it 11-2009 $3750.00!!! Need to get a line on some folks that have done a 5.7 Conversion I think the trans tunnel and torsion bar crossmember needs to be modified to fit the 5 speed automatic, gotta do some research!!! :icon_smile_big:
Sold my Charger unfortunately....never got it finished.

hotrod98

I have a 5.7 that I bought that was pulled from a 2005 truck. From the looks of the transmission, it would require raising the floor substantially and radically altering the t bar x mbr. A few years ago, I installed a 5.9 with an A518 trans into my wife's Cuda and I had to alter the t bar x mber and beat the floor in on the driver's side as well as make a new trans mount. The A518 is much smaller than the 545RFE. I plan to use my 5.7 in my shaker hood 71 Cuda and will just use an A518 with a 3.55 rear. Much less work for me.
Street and performance has the mounts that you will need, Tony Squire has the wiring harness if you don't use the stock harness, I think Milodon makes a pan and TTI makes the best headers for the swap. Seems like it was going to cost me two grand to install the 5.7 in my Cuda.

If your 5.7 is the car version, you can buy the 392 coil covers and they will fit right on. Rebadge makes inserts to replace the 392 inserts that read 5.7 Hemi or 5.7 345 HP or just about anything you want.

I bought a set to see if I can use them on my 5.7 truck motor. Might end up using them on my 09 Challenger instead.


Normal is an illusion. What is normal for the spider is chaos for the fly.
Charles Addams

Indygenerallee

The 5.7 came out of a 05 Rumblebee (supposedly) I have a Mildon oil pan on its way with a set of TTI engine mounts, I have to replace front floor pans anyway (have a couple tiny holes and thin) I knew the tunnel and torsion bar crossmember had to be modified for the 545rfe so when I do the front pans I will modify it then. here are the pics of the engine and trans. <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/68837841@N06/6983101515/" title="100_0949 by indygenerallee1, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7178/6983101515_4cdb6a9314.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="100_0949"></a>
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/68837841@N06/6836975352/" title="100_0952 by indygenerallee1, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm8<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/68837841@N06/6836977040/" title="100_0950 by indygenerallee1, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7197/6836977040_320ea520cd.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="100_0950"></a>.staticflickr.com/7051/6836975352_732691aa40.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="100_0952"></a>
Sold my Charger unfortunately....never got it finished.

hotrod98

There's a lot of difference between the truck version and the car version. The throttle body on the car version is at the front. I want to use my shaker setup on my 5.7 so it's going to be interesting to see how I'm going to do that with the throttle body at the back. I don't want to cut up my perfect original shaker setup.

I had originally bought this 5.7 to go into my wife's Superbird clone but we found a real deal bird so we abandoned the bird clone project. I'm thinking seriously about building a bad to the bone Daytona clone with modern drivetrain. Possibly a 6.4 hemi. If I build it I'll sell my real bird to someone that will drive it.

I don't drive the bird much except to WalMart and McDonalds.  :eyes:


Normal is an illusion. What is normal for the spider is chaos for the fly.
Charles Addams

Indygenerallee

Yeah I found out the truck Hemi is actually the easier one to adapt to the car. I plan on tearing the bottom apart and checking all rod main clearances and use all ARP rod and main bolts and I am going to put a nice cam into it and will upgrade to a 6.1 Intake. I was just told about the Hotwireauto.com wiring harness fully setup ($995.00) plug and play and they can reprogram the PCM for $250.00 So I will most likely go that route to keep headaches at a minimum!! I think with the 5 speed I will run a 4.10 gear and it will be a real street machine!! and still be able to cruise the highway nicely!! I think number one will be the MPG and reliability!!
Sold my Charger unfortunately....never got it finished.

hotrod98

Tony Squire is the owner of Hotwireauto. They're about an hour and a half south of here. His stuff is nice. He's the guy that has the Charger that I'm going to go look at.
I need another set of the GL rims for a car that we're going to build. Know of any nice ones that can be bought without taking out a second mortgage?

Can you use the 6.1 intake without changing the heads?


Normal is an illusion. What is normal for the spider is chaos for the fly.
Charles Addams

Indygenerallee

I have a set of 14x7 4.5" bolt pattern vectors with newer tires and new center caps with lug nuts I have a guy coming to buy them tomorrow along with my AMD 69 Fenders, I have been talking to Chris over there and I am sending them my PCM Monday and ordering a harness from them as well Monday I mulled it over and figured I could make one with my harness but I said screw it I don't need anymore headaches!!! :lol: I am going to run a Diablosport INtune on it. I was told you can run the 6.1 Intake on the 5.7 but you need the car front timing cover and accesories. I am pretty excited to see what MPG a Daytona will get with a 5.7 Hemi and a MPG tune!!! with the Aero I have a gut feeling I will be looking at 29-31 mpg!!!
Sold my Charger unfortunately....never got it finished.

moparstuart

I was alway told u need 6.1 heads to make thr intake work 
GO SELL CRAZY SOMEWHERE ELSE WE ARE ALL STOCKED UP HERE

Indygenerallee

Very well could Stuart I was just told by a guy I am kinda new to the 5.7 & 6.1  :icon_smile_big:
Sold my Charger unfortunately....never got it finished.

hotrod98

My wife's 73 Cuda with the 1995 5.9L EFI and A518 tranny with a 3.55 rear and the stock computer gets 29 mpg on the interstate with the cruise control set on 70. You should see that easy with a 5.7 if you use a stock computer.


Normal is an illusion. What is normal for the spider is chaos for the fly.
Charles Addams

Indygenerallee

Hotrod, that's good to know I was wanting to run a 4.10 gear with the 5 speed I think it would be a all street machine and still get great mpg! Heck with the Aero it might come close to putting up some really great mpg numbers!! over 30!???? would definately be awesome!
Sold my Charger unfortunately....never got it finished.

hotrod98

Your trunk hinge template went out in the mail today.


Normal is an illusion. What is normal for the spider is chaos for the fly.
Charles Addams

Indygenerallee

Sold my Charger unfortunately....never got it finished.