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« on: July 16, 2012, 06:25:53 PM »

My 68 has a screw either side in the lower windshield trim that I'm told shouldn't be there!
I just figured someone before me had screwed them in to help hold the lower trim down.
Now I've just seen another in a photo that has the same. Can someone answer if the 68 is supposed to have these screws there, or if this was just a quick fix for some people?
I've attached a photo of the 68 in the ebay ad from the "Charger Discussion" thread about the guy that just bought a pristine, original charger, that shows the same screws as mine.

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« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2012, 06:55:05 PM »

I've not seen that before. Don't know too much about 68 details but my 69 has tiny screws that hold the ends down but they're hidden down in the door jam area.  shruggy
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« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2012, 07:07:21 PM »

   My first 68 didn't have them. The one I have now doe's.   shruggy
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« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2012, 07:32:21 PM »




       Looks to be in the same spot........











              


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« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2012, 07:46:49 PM »

Hey Squeakfinder,

Does yours also have the little strap that wraps around into the door jam and screws in there as well? Or are those little straps not there?

Thanks.

Wade
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« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2012, 07:47:26 PM »

There should not be a screw there.
Looks like a quick fix for a poor fitting molding or no retaining clip.

There should be just clips (one almost near the end of the molding), and little "L"-shaped retaining clips on the sides that wrap into the hinge pillar & are mounted underneath the roof rail weatherstrip.  yesnod
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« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2012, 07:55:38 PM »

Thanks Bill,
That's what I thought.
Are the straps still available? If so, who sells them?

Thanks again,

Wade
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« Reply #7 on: July 16, 2012, 08:24:42 PM »


 As far as straps, I'm not sure what your asking.


 


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« Reply #8 on: July 16, 2012, 08:30:38 PM »


 

 I'm not convinced they don't belong there. Maybee a dealer fix. Might have been an assembly line fix.
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« Reply #9 on: July 16, 2012, 08:46:54 PM »


 As far as straps, I'm not sure what your asking.


 


See that elongated hole at the base of the A-pillar? That's where the screw goes thru that holds them in. The other end is flat which slides into the end of the base windshield trim piece.

Here's a used set:
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They're also available repro.  2thumbs
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« Reply #10 on: July 17, 2012, 05:06:02 AM »

Mine came with screws
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« Reply #11 on: July 17, 2012, 07:05:04 AM »

I believe the screws to be one of the EARLY 68 quirks.
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« Reply #12 on: July 17, 2012, 07:09:24 AM »

I believe the screws to be one of the EARLY 68 quirks.


I do find it VERY interesting that the cars pictured have the screws in the EXACT same spot.  scratchchin
Any documentation out there to dispel this myth?  popcrn
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« Reply #13 on: July 17, 2012, 07:15:48 AM »

I believe the screws to be one of the EARLY 68 quirks.

 I agree,but there is supposed to be a "danger do not remove" tag fastened to them !!!!!
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« Reply #14 on: July 17, 2012, 07:24:58 AM »

Mine has them in the same exact spot, built Sept. of 67

Just looked at that Ebay car and noticed it was a Sept. built car also.
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« Reply #15 on: July 17, 2012, 07:29:39 AM »


    So do the 66 and 67 b body's have the screws?
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« Reply #16 on: July 17, 2012, 07:33:30 AM »

Mine has them in the same exact spot, built Sept. of 67

That's three!!  Wink
Very well could be an early '68 quirk then. I was unaware. This forum is great, learn something new every day!  coolgleamA


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« Reply #17 on: July 17, 2012, 07:55:41 AM »

I'd be very suprised if that was originally done by Ma Mopar,looks to hacked for being on a new car at the time,right on top of the trim!!!! My 68 Coronet was also an early car 166,540,not to far after  this Charger and did not have such a thing like that done to it.My opinion,doubt that is a fact thing,the cars you show with the screws have all been painted,...... scratchchin !
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« Reply #18 on: July 17, 2012, 09:42:16 AM »

My car was built in June 68.  There are no screws in the moulding or screw holes in the body.  I have seen this before but my car doesn't have any.
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« Reply #19 on: July 17, 2012, 02:13:22 PM »

I don't think I've ever seen a screw right through the molding there. All of mine have the clip on the end as far as I know.

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« Reply #20 on: July 17, 2012, 02:20:15 PM »

I've never seen another one, either. Nor have I seen moldings with "factory" stamped screw holes in them.

Try taking out the screw. If it's just a hole haphazardly drilled it in then it's probably a home do-it-yerself deal. If it has a neat stamped recess in the molding then I'd lean towards an early factory production thing.
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« Reply #21 on: July 17, 2012, 02:41:42 PM »

Incidently,

Mine's a Sept build as well (if my memory serves me).
Perhaps, there was a shortage of the "end clips" at that particular time, and this was some sort of short-term fix?Huh

Will pull a screw tonight, and see what I can see!!

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« Reply #22 on: July 17, 2012, 03:28:30 PM »

I pulled the screws in mine and it just looks like a drilled hole.
Looking at the few photo's here and looking at my car, I'm leaning towards it was a last second fix at the factory or at the dealership.
If it was DIY the holes would be anywhere on the end of the trim but not in the same spot.
We need more pictures of cars with the screws.


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« Reply #23 on: July 17, 2012, 03:54:36 PM »

I'll take a pic of mine tonight, and put it up in the morning!

1Bad68, does yours have the end clip in addition to that screw??

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« Reply #24 on: July 17, 2012, 06:46:07 PM »

My car was built in June 68.  There are no screws in the moulding or screw holes in the body.  I have seen this before but my car doesn't have any.
         do you have a pic of you fender tag,so far your is the only other june 68 like mine


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« Reply #25 on: July 17, 2012, 06:51:57 PM »


    So do the 66 and 67 b body's have the screws?

My father's 67 doesn't have screws, just the "end clip"!!
He was the one who suggested mine was in-correct, and shouldn't have screws there!

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« Reply #26 on: July 18, 2012, 01:56:51 PM »

Here's a pic of mine.
Seems to be same as the others.

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« Reply #27 on: July 18, 2012, 02:17:32 PM »

No, my fender tag is still rusty.  I am not cleaning it up for awhile yet.  Not ready to finish the car and install it on the fander yet.  But, manufacturing date is June 5.
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« Reply #28 on: July 18, 2012, 03:38:14 PM »

Just to clarify... June is a late car - September is early. Cars for the next model year go into production around July.

The ones that appear to have it are August (so far). Now I have to go dig through all my 68 Charger pictures looking for tiny screws!

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« Reply #29 on: July 18, 2012, 05:03:43 PM »

Hmm....never seen this before... scratchchin

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« Reply #30 on: July 19, 2012, 02:40:45 PM »

Don't the early build cars use 67 clips & late use the 68 clips that you order? Reason I say is my car was an early build and we ordered the 68 clips and the trim wouldn't go on. In turn we had to order the 67 clips,take the windshield out  RantExplode then instal again. Then use the longer 67 clips to attach the lower windshield trim. Would the screws be used to hold the trim down due to this issue back in the day?
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« Reply #31 on: March 11, 2021, 11:27:47 PM »

Mine was built in Sept of 67


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« Reply #32 on: March 12, 2021, 08:34:21 AM »

Would this screw in the windshield trim be the same time the early 68 had the different mounting stand in the trunk for the tail lights and the early sliding ash tray in the dash ?

Did these things all change to the later regular way all at the same time ??
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« Reply #33 on: March 12, 2021, 08:50:27 AM »

Would this screw in the windshield trim be the same time the early 68 had the different mounting stand in the trunk for the tail lights and the early sliding ash tray in the dash ?

Did these things all change to the later regular way all at the same time ??

Early Builds had
tri color door pad medallions
skeletal trunk lid structure
tail light brackets are different
headliner trim was only clipped on - no screws
small round horn pad
slide down ash tray
Chrome map pocket buttons

https://www.forbbodiesonly.com/moparforum/threads/68-charger-production-differences.141108/
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« Reply #34 on: July 06, 2021, 04:52:33 PM »

Do anyone know who repopos the clips that wrap around the A Piller.?     
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« Reply #35 on: July 07, 2021, 11:28:42 PM »

  
Both the location and the actual screws look pretty consistent.  I smell a factory fix.    

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