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Author Topic: Trying to get in touch with Nascarxx29 about tracking down a missing superbird  (Read 9070 times)
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« on: September 02, 2012, 02:13:25 AM »

Nascarxx29, if you are reading this, I tried sending you a PM, but it looks like your mailbox is full.

I found your name through posting on some other forums as well as some google searching, and I was hoping maybe we could pool our resources to try to track down a hemi 4-speed superbird.  I had sent you a private message earlier today on another forum, but have since gotten some more information, so here is the story.  Back in the late 70s, my grandfather owned 2 Plymouth Superbirds, one was a white 440/automatic, and the other was a tor-red 426hemi 4-speed with black bucket seats.  He sold both cars before I was born, but through stories told by him and my uncle over the years, the hemi bird was always a legend in the family.  About 10 years ago, my grandfather passed away.  A few weeks back, my aunt was going through papers in my grandmother's house, and she found a folder with a bunch of superbird literature and paperwork in it, so since I am the one of the family that is carrying on the gearhead torch, she passed the folder to me.  There's a lot of stuff in there that is cool to read, like old for sale and want ads, but then I came across the build sheet for a hemi superbird, protected in a plastic comic book type cover!  On the back of the folder there is also an imprint of the inner fender stamp showing the same VIN, and a few outdated names, addresses, and phone numbers.  The VIN number of the car is RM23R0A174616.  One of the names on the back is Eric Price, which it looks like that is as far as you were able to track the car.  I spoke with my uncle today to try to find out what he remembered of when the car was bought and sold, and who might have it now.  What I was able to find out is that my grandfather, John Macron, bought the car from Eric Price, and I was also able to find out that he sold it in March of 1981 (my uncle remembered that the car was sold on the same day that Reagan was shot) to a guy who he said was either from north Jersey, or possibly PA, but he could not remember the guy's name.  I would really love to track down this car, see the car my grandfather once owned, possibly go for a ride in it, and get this build sheet into the hands of the current owner.  From what I have found, you have a knack for tracking down old winged cars, so I would appreciate any info or advice you might have to offer.  Please feel free to call me or send me an email, and maybe we can track down a missing superbird.  Thanks.

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« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2012, 12:01:46 PM »

I was up in Chester NJ awhile back buying parts.And this guy Fred knew Eric but didnt know where he or car was.I found newsletter stories about that car .But never found any trace of it


On another note I did see a V2 Orange superbird Hemi that got changed to B5 Guys name was Mr Jacobs I think from Hillside NJ http://www.hemmings.com/mus/stories/2005/04/01/hmn_feature2.html
   Morristown Mendham NJ.Guys name was Eric Price  I found a old neighbor of his.But never found him or any parts of RM23ROA174616 And never found that FK5 Hemi superbird




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There was another superbird a 426 one that suffered a similar fate in NJ.The car had all glass smashed and car was tipped over.I heard of this and other occurances with Erics car from his friend .This RM23ROA174616 car is still hasnt surfaced.Maybe it was totalled by the insurance company back in the day
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« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2012, 01:55:17 PM »

Do you know when that ad was from?  Or do you have any knowledge of when Eric Price owned the car?  My uncle, who has a very good memory, told me that my grandfather bought the car from Eric Price in the late 70s, and that he sold it in 1981.  The phone number that I have on the back of this folder for Eric Price is the same one as in that ad.  If my uncle is correct, that would mean the trail no longer goes cold with Eric Price.  Also, on the back of this folder beneath Eric Price's phone number is a name of Ed Machies (or something like that, hard to read the handwriting) with an outdated phone number, and the address it lists for him is Little Mill Rd. in Freehold, NJ (no such road exists now, don't know if it got renamed or paved over or what) and underneath Ed's phone number is says "hemi owner", so I don't know if that might be the person who bought the car, or just some guy who owned another hemi car.  There is also written in pencil the name Scott Beskin, with a phone number, which when I google search it comes up with a law firm Beskin and Pesciotta.  I'll probably call them during the week and see if there is a Scott Beskin there, and if he might know anything about the car.
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« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2012, 02:55:40 PM »

Ed Machos is the right spelling. 
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« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2012, 02:57:17 PM »

I knew Ed Machos he had 68 Charger and a white superbird vin RM23UOA175680.I got old contact info posted below.He used to live in Freehold

.I looked at this superbird in south jersey in or before 1992 when the owner gave me a wanted parts list for it A original.Alpine white RM23UOA175680.Lastime I saw it it looked like this at the back of a body shop he had it at.That body shop is no longer there.From then till know.This car has yet to surface.Wonder what became of and him and his cars .
[img]http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e67/75414/Superbird.jpg

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« Reply #5 on: September 02, 2012, 03:06:05 PM »

Was Ed Machos' white superbird a 440/automatic?  If so, that might be the other superbird that my grandfather owned. I don't have any documentation on that car though, so I can't check the VIN on it.

So I guess we don't know if Eric Price owned the hemi bird in the 70s or the 80s?
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« Reply #6 on: September 02, 2012, 03:24:20 PM »

Eds superbird was a white automatic .I looked at the car when it was in my area.At one time it had to been broadsided on the drivers side and had old school repairs done by brazing.I can recall a orig V2 Hemi Superbird changed to B5.It was from Chester NJ.
I never found any additional info on Eric or the car.Remains a NJ mystery.I go threw my newsletter and hemmings collections trying to find it


Couldnt find my pictures but this is the Hemi bird that was V2 and changed to B5 It had 80-85 Blue NJ license plate 601PLF
http://www.hemmings.com/mus/stories/2005/04/01/hmn_feature2.html
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« Reply #7 on: September 02, 2012, 04:19:48 PM »

The info on 174616 I have is from Les Bowman.    The owner of the birds address was  North Road 90-A Chester NJ.  No name given.   Eric Price knew of the car and gave Les the info.   Eric's address was on Blue Mill Rd. Morristown NJ.
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« Reply #8 on: September 02, 2012, 04:25:49 PM »

Matchs the for sale address    The owner of the birds address was  North Road 90-A Chester NJ
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« Reply #9 on: September 02, 2012, 04:31:50 PM »

My notes show that Eric knew of the car but didn't own it.     Funny,  My note from Les is that Eric lived on Blue Mill and the Superbird's owner lived on North Road..    That's all I got on it.
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« Reply #10 on: September 02, 2012, 04:36:36 PM »

Do you know when that ad was from?  Or do you have any knowledge of when Eric Price owned the car?  My uncle, who has a very good memory, told me that my grandfather bought the car from Eric Price in the late 70s, and that he sold it in 1981.  The phone number that I have on the back of this folder for Eric Price is the same one as in that ad.  If my uncle is correct, that would mean the trail no longer goes cold with Eric Price.  Also, on the back of this folder beneath Eric Price's phone number is a name of Ed Machies (or something like that, hard to read the handwriting) with an outdated phone number, and the address it lists for him is Little Mill Rd. in Freehold, NJ (no such road exists now, don't know if it got renamed or paved over or what) and underneath Ed's phone number is says "hemi owner", so I don't know if that might be the person who bought the car, or just some guy who owned another hemi car.  There is also written in pencil the name Scott Beskin, with a phone number, which when I google search it comes up with a law firm Beskin and Pesciotta.  I'll probably call them during the week and see if there is a Scott Beskin there, and if he might know anything about the car.
I have Blue Mill Rd.  Your wrote Little Mill Rd for Eric.  Try that. 
 
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« Reply #11 on: September 02, 2012, 04:50:52 PM »

Ok Thanks C5X .Mikey anything in the folder you want to share with the masses are great archives .The Eric Price car is a cold case but I never stop looking.I got 2 additional emails being mailbox hasnt been checked .Wingcars69@Netzero.com and Wingcars6970@AOL.COM
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« Reply #12 on: September 02, 2012, 08:04:10 PM »

The "Little Mill Rd." was the address I had for Ed Machos, not Eric Price.  The only address I have for Eric Price is one in Kalamazoo Michigan, so I don't know if he moved, or if that is a different person entirely, or what.

It would be nice if someone knew when Eric Price owned the car.  Since that is the last anyone knew of the car, if I can confirm that he owned the car prior to my grandfather, then that would mean that the car most likely is still in existence.  My uncle told me that my grandfather bought the car from Eric Price, and he remembers him paying $10500 for the car, and selling it in 1981 for $12500.  I guess that is my next piece of information to try to track down.  Tomorrow I'm going to see if any of the other phone numbers are still good in the other ads on the page where Eric is selling the car.  Maybe I can get in touch with someone who remembers when they posted the ad, and maybe I can get some approximate dates to see who was the last known owner.

As for sharing the stuff in the folder, when I get a chance, I will be happy to scan everything and email it all to you.

Thanks.

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« Reply #13 on: September 02, 2012, 08:41:35 PM »

Sounds all good and worth a try.My girlfriend does family genelogy history .She found me a Eric Price age 55 in Budd Lake NJ.Hopefully you leads will pan out

Going by the Regan clue you provided Im searching from that date The Reagan assassination attempt occurred on March 30, 1981,
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« Reply #14 on: September 03, 2012, 06:08:26 PM »

Mike Im going thru my stuff looking for this 87 vintage magazine.The car featured was a Hemi from Hillside NJ Blue yellow 80- NJ license plate 601 PLF orig V2 changed to B5
  Mikey I did find your earlier other post http://www.forbbodiesonly.com/moparforum/showthread.php?t=40431
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« Reply #15 on: September 04, 2012, 07:00:24 AM »


[IMG]http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae240/Wingcars69/101_4484.jpg[/im

I saw this also in Chester, NJ. Half a hemi Superbird in Flemington, NJ. Clean 63 Nova on the side of River Rd in New Brunswick near the Rutgers Stadium, a '68 400 Firebird 4sp in Hackettstown, NJ. 3 66 Mustang fastbacks, all V-8 cars, in Pottstown, PA. 2 '57 Chevy 2drs and a 55 2dr and a couple early Chargers in Wyomissing, PA outside Danville. I could go on and on and on. Damn....now I'm bummed. I can't afford any of them right now.
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« Reply #16 on: September 04, 2012, 07:09:37 AM »

Ed might be in Lakewood NJ tried a call but wasnt in

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« Reply #17 on: September 04, 2012, 07:17:12 AM »

Mikey if this is our Eric W Price
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Mr. Eric W. PRICE - Of Kalamazoo, died Friday, September 13, 1996. Eric was born on November 22, 1957 in Charleston, West Virginia He graduated from Morristown High School in New Jersey, attended Western Michigan University, and was the founder and owner of E. W. Price and Associates. He was a Certified Commercial Investment Manager, Real Estate Broker, past director Michigan C.C.I.M., Chapter, instructor of Graduate Realtors Institute, past editor of C.C.I.M. News, past chairman of Educational Awards Committee, Registered Securities Dealer and an independent travel agent. Eric was a beloved son and friend. {Surviving are his father, Dr. Alson K. PRICE of Hopatcong, NJ;}} {and mother, Mrs. John A. BUTLER of Ormond, FL.} In accordance with his wishes cremation has taken place and there will be no visitation. A Memorial service will be held 10:00 o'clock Saturday at the Langeland Memorial Chapel, 622 S. Burdick, A Trust 100 Chapel, Memorials may be directed to the Humane Soc!
 iety of Kalamazoo County. source: undated Kalamazoo Gazette (submitted by a volunteer, no family connection)


Alson Price, 74 years old, Cove Rd, Hopatcong, NJ, US, 864-322-9...
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Alson Price, 74 years old, {{{{{1 Box 90, Chester, NJ,}}}}}}}}}}US, 864-322-9...
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« Reply #18 on: September 04, 2012, 10:48:44 AM »

That could be him.  I also found the Eric Price you mentioned in Budd Lake, NJ.  Looks like 4 Woodland Ave., 973-691-9405.  I called and the voicemail does say "You've reached Eric and someone Price", and I left a message, but have not heard back yet.  I will try again this evening.  I'll also see what I can find about Alson Price.  My uncle said he remembered something about the buyer did something with chemicals in North Jersey, and it looks like Alson Price has some patents having to do with chemical processes.  You don't have the last 3 digits of that phone number, do you?  What's weird is that is a South Carolina number.  Hmm...the mystery continues.
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« Reply #19 on: September 04, 2012, 11:03:22 AM »

Im certain the Eric W Price was the one from NJ and no longer with us sorry to say.As Alson address is the same a superbird ad

Father has patents   http://www.patentbuddy.com/Inventor/Price-Alson-K/10484364

You could also try Ed Machos number in Lakewood NJ
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« Reply #20 on: September 04, 2012, 11:12:43 AM »

I will try Ed Machos later today.  I doubt he has the hemi bird, but he may know what happened to the 440 one.  I also found out my aunt has a bunch of old tax records, so I'm going to have her look through and see if we can find an old bank record that might show who may have bought the car. 
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« Reply #21 on: September 04, 2012, 11:23:30 AM »

Ed should have the white 440 bird

Im still looking for the Hillside NJ Hemi Superbird that did some local shows in NJ and in a magazine 1987.I talked to him back then and some of the details of the missing Hemi Superbird fit
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« Reply #22 on: September 04, 2012, 04:17:03 PM »

Cool!  I left a message for Ed Machos, and my aunt will be checking through my grandparents' old tax records to see if there are any records that old.  If there are, then maybe I can find a name of who bought the car, and maybe we can go from there.

Thanks for all your help.
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« Reply #23 on: September 05, 2012, 09:40:38 AM »

Got a call from Ed today. 1992 we last heard from each other he didnt remember the Hemi bird .But you can give him a call.
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« Reply #24 on: September 10, 2012, 11:48:56 AM »

Mikey I found that magazine again online and orderded it.Waiting for it anyday .Did you ever scan all those documents
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