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Author Topic: Trying to get in touch with Nascarxx29 about tracking down a missing superbird  (Read 8896 times)
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« Reply #25 on: September 10, 2012, 06:52:12 PM »

No, I haven't had a chance to scan everything yet. I'll try to get that done one day this week.

I did have about a half-hour conversation with Ed Machos the other day, and his superbird is definitely the first one my grandfather owned, so that was pretty exciting. He said the engine and trans are out of the car right now, so I offered to help with the install if needed. It would be awesome to have a chance to work on my grandfather's old superbird.

Unfortunately I have kind of hit a dead end on the hemi car. Everyone in my family remembers that he bought the car from Eric Price, but nobody remembers who it was sold to. My uncle remembers that the buyer was either in Northwest NJ, or possibly PA. The old tax and bank records had nothing either. The only other thing I can try is checking with DMV, but I doubt they will release any info. We'll see.
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« Reply #26 on: September 10, 2012, 10:40:58 PM »

I waiting for my magazine .To see what details are there.

And send the vin in to some known area mopar restorers I know .To see if the car had been in there shop
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« Reply #27 on: September 11, 2012, 07:19:53 AM »

NJ DMV historical Is not much help on older cars .You can try them or call to see whats available you need to submit the complete vin RM23ROA174616 and NJ tag number 601 -PLF blue plates.Im certain that plate is the one on the repainted color changed Hemi Superbird I saw and owner was from N Jersey
 Glad we got to talk to Ed and confirm one white Superbird found and it was the one.Maybe MCG will run a story you got the paperwork and looking for the Hemi Superbird
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« Reply #28 on: September 15, 2012, 11:54:36 AM »

Got the magazine today guy with repainted B5 Hemi 4 speed Superbird in 87 article. And has same car and same owner. I seen before with the V2 the original color on the fender tag.Car was from NJ Gilbert Jacobs.Also mentioned he joined the superbird club there maybe a lead there


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« Reply #29 on: September 15, 2012, 12:17:08 PM »

Mikey did a quick search heres a Gilbert Jacobs president of a company as magazine mentioned and its in NJ This should be the car you looking for.87 article says he bought it five years ago.So 1981 -1982 is right on.And father and Son has superbirds the sons car is a 440
http://www.manta.com/g/mmb5ph2/gilbert-jacobs
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« Reply #30 on: September 15, 2012, 05:02:09 PM »

I remember talking to the owner that B5 hemi superbird back in the day.If I remember correctly he lived in Lake Hopatcong and the car was restored at Hibernia Auto Restorations 2thumbs
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« Reply #31 on: September 16, 2012, 03:31:35 PM »

Wonder how many Hemi Superbirds Hibernia ever repainted cant be many .This place Ive heard of for years for doing foriegn and exotics http://www.hiberniaautorestorers.com/

Another intersting thing in the article it stated mr Jacobs is a big Hemi fan started with a 53  model .And has gone directly to Highland Park MI to personally pick up his Hemi cars until you couldnt get Hemis anymore
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« Reply #32 on: September 16, 2012, 04:12:06 PM »

Mikey, check your PM's.   I have sent you the contact info for Mr. Jacobs that I had on file.
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« Reply #33 on: September 16, 2012, 04:49:36 PM »

     cheers Aero 426 Mikeys additional contact info  Hopefully Mikey has more than enough on this longtime NJ mystery superbird to conclude that as Eric Price is no longer with us RM23ROA174616 .His car is alive and well and urban legends had it down as 426 FK5 burnt orange .As car was in primer or faded orange on the accounts I heard before seeing it for the firstime in B5 with a V2 paint code.And he gets to see it again and reunite buildsheet pictures etc with current owner.When I seen the car way back when I didnt have a camera or misplaced pictures I had .But I remembered NJ Plates and owners last name .
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732-7five7-1fivenine0   We also got a current ph# number and address for a 84 y/o Gilbert Jacobs in NJ.Which by no doubt will be the one your looking to talk to
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« Reply #34 on: September 18, 2012, 11:10:24 AM »

Thank you very much!  I will get in touch with him, and I definitely couldn't have done this without all the help here.

Nascarxx29, it's been a bit crazy these past few weeks cause I was in the middle of moving, so I still haven't had a chance to scan the paperwork, but I will definitely email you a copy of everything when I do.  I'll also post pictures when I see the car!

Thanks again!

Mike
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« Reply #35 on: September 19, 2012, 05:56:34 PM »

Well I spoke to Gilbert Jacobs today!  I called yesterday and left a message with a receptionist at his office, and this afternoon I got a call back from him.  He still has the car, and said he just had another complete ground-up restoration done on the car, and it is now back to the original Tor-Red paint.  Given that he just had this done, he was very excited to get the build sheet for the car, and said he would be happy to show me the car.  I spoke with my uncle, he is going to speak to his cousin and his uncle (my grandfather's brother), and within the next couple weeks, we will be making a trip up there to see the car, take some good pictures, and get this build sheet into the owner's hands.

Thanks to everyone for the help and info tracking down the car!  I'm very excited to see it.
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« Reply #36 on: September 19, 2012, 10:32:31 PM »

He put it to back V2 how about that.After all those years .Case closed on RM23ROA174616 back to V2 and getting the cars buildsheet reunited doesnt get any better.Except for pictures and a story. Its been quite a while but you can see the older recorded info can know be updated
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« Reply #37 on: September 25, 2012, 08:21:07 PM »

Well on Sunday I took a drive up and met Gil Jacobs and saw the hemi bird!  My uncle went with me, and he said Gil looks almost exactly the same as he did 30 years ago when he bought the car.  As for the car, it was absolutely perfect!  We went into the garage, and I helped Gil remove the cover from the car.  All the paint was perfect, the interior was immaculate, right down to the pistol grip shifter!  The engine bay was spotless as well, with the big hemi air cleaner painted just as perfectly as the rest of the car.  After about 20 minutes or so, Gil's son Randy showed up, he added a little fuel to the carbs, and Gil got in the car and fired it up!  After hearing it run, the 4 of us were talking about the car, the history of the car, and just cars in general.  I found out a little more info about that vandalism claim back when Eric had the car.  Apparently Eric and his neighbor had some kind of an argument, and then the neighbor's son went at the car with an axe and managed to put 4 cuts in the nosecone before someone was able to stop him.  At the time, the nosecone was replaced, but Eric kept the original one, which went with the car, and now Gil has the original nosecone, still with the 4 axe marks in it, that he said he has kept just as a spare in case anything were to happen to the one on the car.  Gil told us about having hemi cars going back to 1953.  He said that right before he bought this car, he decided he wanted another car with a hemi, and he asked Randy to look for something for him, and Randy was the one who found my grandfather selling this car.  Looking around Gil's garage, he also had a Chrysler 300 SRT8, a Jeep Grand Cherokee with a 5.7 Hemi, and a 96 Dodge Viper GTS with only 1600 miles on it.  After a while talking, we went back inside, and went through the paperwork that I had.  I gave Gil everything that was specific to that car including 2 build sheets, a sales tax receipt from when my grandfather bought the car, the ad from when Eric was selling the car, and a printed manual that has diagrams and part numbers for everything specific to the superbird.  Before giving everything to him, I scanned everything to a pdf file, except for the build sheets.  Gil made copies of those for me at the house, and I also took a picture of them before leaving.  After about 2 hours of talking and story-telling, my uncle and I had to be on our way, so Gil walked us out to the front, thanked us, and before leaving I got his Randy's email address, and he said he will email me pictures of the car during the restoration process.  Overall, it was a fun meeting, and it was exciting to see the car in such good shape, and that made me feel even better about getting the build sheets back with the car.  Anyway, without further ado, here are the pics and a video of the car being started.



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« Reply #38 on: September 25, 2012, 08:50:46 PM »

wow   drool5 drool5 drool5 drool5 drool5 drool5  the ultimate
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« Reply #39 on: September 25, 2012, 09:10:08 PM »

Im happy for you Mike and that research paid off.So that you were able to restablish contact with the past owned cars from your family.And that Mr Jacobs got his buildsheet reunited and that we know have the history on this particular N.J. Hemi Superbird after quite sometime
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« Reply #40 on: September 25, 2012, 09:29:50 PM »

beautiful car, and the perfect ending to your quest.

hopefully the owner will join us here, and share his experiences with the car.
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« Reply #41 on: September 26, 2012, 07:45:34 AM »

Console 4 speed Hemi Superbird, dont get much better than that!  2thumbs
Well maybe if it was B5 w/ white interior  lol
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« Reply #42 on: September 26, 2012, 07:56:50 AM »

A very unselfish thing to give up the build sheets.   Some people would not have done that.   Glad you were able to close the loop. 
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« Reply #43 on: September 26, 2012, 10:56:27 AM »

No white interior, but he had previously had it painted B5.  He said he went back to the original color because he shows the car, and he got knocked down a few times for it not being the original color.

As for the build sheets, as far as I'm concerned they are part of the car.  It would be different if it was a common car, but when its a 1 of 48 car, it never crossed my mind to not give them to the current owner.  He did give me some money for them, not that I was asking for it.  I'm happy just having seen the car and met the owner, and being part of tracking down a missing superbird.
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« Reply #44 on: September 29, 2012, 04:39:10 PM »

what is the rectangular plate above where the heater hoses come through firewall ?
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« Reply #45 on: September 29, 2012, 04:46:18 PM »

I saw that to dont know if its a engraved plaque .Or reassigned replacement vin?
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« Reply #46 on: September 29, 2012, 06:34:44 PM »

It was put there by Hybernia Auto Restorations, and says something to the effect of "This vehicle was restored by Hybernia Auto Restoration", or something like that.  It is just double-sided tape holding it onto the firewall.  That actually became the subject of a little argument while we were there because Gil's son wanted to remove it, and started gently pulling at it to see how it was attached, and Gil started yelling at him to leave it because what if it pulls the paint off with it.
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« Reply #47 on: September 30, 2012, 02:32:59 PM »

I was wondering that as well.
And if he pulls it off and the paint comes off, just stick it back on !
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« Reply #48 on: November 20, 2013, 07:50:20 PM »

Hey guy can yall look in those records and see if it says anything about any surperbirds in north carolina. it could be anything, like a sale record or anything, please let me know and if there is could you send me pictures of them, Thanks,
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« Reply #49 on: November 21, 2013, 01:12:02 AM »

Need some info as this to even get started       http://www.forbbodiesonly.com/moparforum/showthread.php?40431-Trying-to-track-down-my-grandfather-s-old-hemi-superbird
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