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Wings in 1972?

Started by nitrometal, September 10, 2012, 10:46:23 PM

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nitrometal

Here is a photo of The King racing in 1972.  On the right side you can see the nosecone of the #17 Dodge Daytona sneaking into the picture.  I know that the final aero year in Nascar was 1971, so does this mean that this is a USAC race?  I didn't realize that Richard ran USAC races because there seemed to be a Nascar event every week ( sometimes two) back then and he wouldn't have time.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/RICHARD-PETTY-43-STP-1972-NASCAR-ACTION-SHOT-8x10-GLOSSY-PHOTO-/221123373996?pt=US_Racing_Fan_Shop&hash=item337bfaebac
I love the smell of nitro in the morning.

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Indygenerallee

You could run wing cars but were limited to 305 cubic inch motors
Sold my Charger unfortunately....never got it finished.

odcics2

Actually, that's a USAC race and the #47 Ramo Stott Plymouth with a 426 hemi in it....
I've never owned anything but a MoPar. Can you say that?

Ghoste

Yep, definitely the Stott 'bird.

JB400

Quote from: Indygenerallee on September 10, 2012, 10:54:34 PM
You could run wing cars but were limited to 305 cubic inch motors
They had so many restrictions on them that they were uneffective.  305ci limit was put on all cars.  Superbirds had so much weight added to them, they couldn't compete. That's what happens when Chrysler comes up with a good idea, and the rulebook has to change to shut the other people up.

Aero426

Quote from: odcics2 on September 11, 2012, 04:57:46 AM
Actually, that's a USAC race and the #47 Ramo Stott Plymouth with a 426 hemi in it....

Yes, this is the 1972 Pocono USAC race.    Petty ran his conventional Road Runner against unrestricted Hemi powered Superbirds.  Richard DNF'd and McCluskey won the race in the #3 Superbird.   Petty was quoted in the Autoweek race report back then as saying, "I would have liked to have run a Superbird, but I couldn't find one."    

I am pretty sure the Pocono Race was a special deal with full FIA sanction and was a scheduled off week for NASCAR.  Marcis and the Penske Matador ran as well as a couple other NASCAR drivers.   I think the promoter paid appearance money to Richard which led USAC stars Jack Bowsher and Don White to stay home and not compete.   

Ghoste

Couldn't just go dig it up from behind the barn huh? :lol:

Aero426

Quote from: Ghoste on September 11, 2012, 08:41:20 AM
Couldn't just go dig it up from behind the barn huh? :lol:

Yes, that is the smoking gun.   No Birds just hanging around in Level Cross by then.

Ghoste

Run for the factory, you run whats current.

odcics2

I'd guess the 43 ran unrestricted, per USAC rules.    Any idea what the 43 ran in qualifying?   
I've never owned anything but a MoPar. Can you say that?

Aero426

Qualifying order was:

1. McCluskey - Superbird
2. Hartman - cheated up '72 Charger with the laid back windshield
3. Dallenbach - #11 Superbird
4. Petty - '72 RR
5. Ramo - #47 Superbird

Correct, no restrictor plates on any cars.  

learical1

Quote from: odcics2 on September 11, 2012, 02:46:09 PM
I'd guess the 43 ran unrestricted, per USAC rules.    Any idea what the 43 ran in qualifying?   
Richard qualified 4th, but I don't know the speed.  Pole (Roger McCluskey) 3rd (Wally Dallenbach) and 5th (Ramo Stott) were all SuperBirds.  Roger lead 180 laps, Richard lead 13 and Wally lead 7, and those were your race leaders.
Bruce

Aero426

Roger was running laps near his qualifying speed late in the race.   The crew was trying to slow him down as he had a four lap lead.   He flat blew everybody away.    Petty, Ramo and Dallenbach all DNF'd.    One of the few races that Ramo did not finish in the Bird. 

nitrometal

Interesting  :scratchchin: You guys are such a wealth of information!

So Nascar actually had weekends off back then?  I figured that they never had a week off, and like I said...sometimes ran events in the middle of the week at some obscure track, but it was still a points paying sanctioned Nascar event. That's how The King racked up 200 wins.  Most of the teams couldn't keep up that kind of schedule, especially the privateers.
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RTDaddy

Richard et al ran the USAC Pocono race in prep for the 1st Nascar Pocono race coming in 73.  If memory serves Richard won that one. 

"IF YOU'RE UNDER CONTROL, YOU AIN'T GOING FAST ENOUGH."

Aero426

Ramo and the King at Pocono '72.


Ghoste

The King is driving through a foggy patch there.  ;)

learical1

"In February 1972, Wings released a single called "Give Ireland Back to the Irish", a response to the events of Bloody Sunday.[6] The song was banned by the BBC for its anti-Unionist political stance and only mentioned in chart rundowns on BBC Radio 1 as "a record by Wings".[7] Despite its limited airplay, it reached No. 16 in the United Kingdom, as well as No. 1 in the Republic of Ireland and No. 1 in Spain. Wings released a children's song, "Mary Had a Little Lamb", as its next single, which reached the Top 10 in the United Kingdom. Though critics often interpreted it as a sarcastic reaction to the ban on "Give Ireland Back to the Irish", it was in fact a serious effort by McCartney to write a song for children.[8] Wings followed it with November 1972's "Hi, Hi, Hi", which was again banned by the BBC, this time for its alleged drug and sexual references.[7] The B-side, "C Moon", was played instead.[1] The single made it into the Top 5 in the United Kingdom and the Top 10 in the United States."

This isn't what you meant?  :shruggy:  Sorry!  :slap: :lol:
Bruce

68X426

Quote from: learical1 on September 19, 2012, 02:06:04 PM

This isn't what you meant?  :shruggy:  Sorry!  :slap: :lol:

Actually that's pretty damn clever of you. :icon_smile_cool:



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1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
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1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

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I know dealer ads from many states archive articles etc .Ive made many finds using it searching a particular year in the archive section
1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

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