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Author Topic: Superbird Option V6Y Dust Swirl Side Tape Stripe Decal  (Read 10234 times)
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« Reply #25 on: October 09, 2012, 09:15:37 PM »

all across america, road runner owners will soon be sitting in the driveway, blow dryer in hand, trying to fix their screw-up....
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« Reply #26 on: October 10, 2012, 06:12:43 AM »

Aha, I do see those X's now...but I'm not sure the orange car's stripes are upside down (at least the fender), because the Warner Bros writing seems correct...if it was upside down the words wouldn't be at the front of the fender...
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« Reply #27 on: October 10, 2012, 06:27:20 AM »

Aha, I do see those X's now...but I'm not sure the orange car's stripes are upside down (at least the fender), because the Warner Bros writing seems correct...if it was upside down the words wouldn't be at the front of the fender...
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the bird, and the start of the dust trail, is a separate piece all to itself. this photo shows how long the first section is. the first footprint after the bird on the orange car is correct, as it is part of the bird decal. the rest of the fender stripe footprints appear to be at the top. these pieces should be the two parts numbers highlighted in red below.


Standard 1970 Road Runner

3505214 3505215 Tape, Fender Side Dust Swirl
2964112 2964113 Decal, Fender Bird
3505138 3505139 Bird Gold
3504916 3504917 Tape, Door Outside Color, Dust Swirl
3505216 3505217 Tape, Quarter Outside Color, Dust Swirl


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« Reply #28 on: October 10, 2012, 01:41:17 PM »

Here are a couple of shots from David Patik's site.  I assume if anyone has gotten the decals correct, he has.  The orange bird is self-explanitory but the length of the dust on the gold one is still in question.


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« Reply #29 on: October 10, 2012, 01:58:46 PM »

 My original 70 fender with decal still there , Decal survived fender hasnt  .  icon_smile_big


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« Reply #30 on: October 10, 2012, 02:06:49 PM »

 MY 0ther 70- RR has the original trunk decal   


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« Reply #31 on: October 10, 2012, 02:10:44 PM »

regardless of the stripe color, it seems that originals would have the same cut line through them. that would place it somewhere in the area of the added red lines. or did they create two different lengths of bird pieces, based on the color?


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« Reply #32 on: October 10, 2012, 04:09:41 PM »

Wow i am learning every day about our cars.
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« Reply #33 on: October 10, 2012, 04:23:02 PM »

Hi Guys,
I don't post much but I read a lot. This is an interesting post on the Dust Swirl stripes.

I've got an original Chrysler Styling Office drawing that was typical of what was used in house. I'm not sure if it will shed any light on the Superbird Dust Swirl debate, but it is pretty interesting. Its dated 1967 for the new model year and its updated yearly to take in the decal changes till Nov of 1975.   

I will post some pics as soon as I resize them. 2thumbs

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« Reply #34 on: October 10, 2012, 04:30:03 PM »

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« Reply #35 on: October 10, 2012, 04:36:19 PM »

 cheers


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« Reply #36 on: October 10, 2012, 05:25:55 PM »

this stripe looks similar to the one on the orange car (but not upside down), and to me it looks like there is a visible seam back a little farther...also noticeable on the orange car...


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« Reply #37 on: October 10, 2012, 05:27:00 PM »

Hi Guys,
I don't post much but I read a lot. This is an interesting post on the Dust Swirl stripes.

I've got an original Chrysler Styling Office drawing that was typical of what was used in house. I'm not sure if it will shed any light on the Superbird Dust Swirl debate, but it is pretty interesting. Its dated 1967 for the new model year and its updated yearly to take in the decal changes till Nov of 1975.   

I will post some pics as soon as I resize them. 2thumbs


those are very cool!  2thumbs
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« Reply #38 on: October 10, 2012, 06:39:57 PM »

your thoughts regarding the purple car match up with the lime car's decal that you posted earlier, so it's entirely possible the orange pieces were longer. strange things often happened with ma mopar, so one can never say never.

the engineering drawings are way cool. thanks for sharing.
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« Reply #39 on: October 10, 2012, 09:35:19 PM »

Thank you for posting the Engineering Drawings.  I had no idea that stuff was still out there. cheers

All this info coming forward has brought up a few more questions.

If V88 Transverse Stripe Delete was important enough to be stamped into the fender tag, would V6Y have shown up
on the fender tag of either a standard Road Runner or Superbird?

Has anyone seen a Lynch Road tag with V6Y or an applicable stripe code on any car?

How about build sheets?  Where would the stripe code appear if it was specified?
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« Reply #40 on: October 10, 2012, 11:33:50 PM »

If V88 Transverse Stripe Delete was important enough to be stamped into the fender tag, would V6Y have shown up
on the fender tag of either a standard Road Runner or Superbird?

Has anyone seen a Lynch Road tag with V6Y or an applicable stripe code on any car?The answer to the first two questions is No because LR did not code a stripe at all. They only put the V code on the tag when the stripe was deleted ...V88

How about build sheets?  Where would the stripe code appear if it was specified? The last box in line 3 of the BS



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« Reply #41 on: October 11, 2012, 09:55:15 AM »

The answer to the first two questions is No because LR did not code a stripe at all. They only put the V code on the tag when the stripe was deleted ...V88

RATS!  Well I guess that leaves only the buildsheet or someone finding an NOS set of the Superbird-only stripes still in the packaging.
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« Reply #42 on: October 11, 2012, 10:08:56 AM »

The answer to the first two questions is No because LR did not code a stripe at all. They only put the V code on the tag when the stripe was deleted ...V88

RATS!  Well I guess that leaves only the buildsheet or someone finding an NOS set of the Superbird-only stripes still in the packaging.
always the possibility of a Dealer installed too , A customer see a standard RR on the lot with them and wants them also .  Anything to push those god aweful pointy beak things off there lots  rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl
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« Reply #43 on: October 12, 2012, 06:35:16 PM »

When I was in High School and College in the early-mid 70's I had a friend who worked at a factory that made decals. One of the things that they did there was to make decals for cars. I went there and I was most interested in the Mopar decals. The uncut running birds were labeled R-R Duster.


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« Reply #44 on: October 12, 2012, 06:47:05 PM »

If there was a flaw in a decal it was called a "cull" and it was not cut out, though other decals on the sheet were still used. If it was a "cull" a red dot was hand placed on it so other workers would know not to put any more work in it and prevent it from being sent to Chrysler. There was a lot of hand work done at the factory.

Our group of friends had a lot of different decals they made. I remember one of our friends had a set of the 1970 RR full length side stripes. So I remember the full length side stripes were made there, and I'm thinking they were pieced together from 2 pieces. Today who knows what they were. I do remember the "butcher paper" colored backing (on the front side) they were on as they were sent out for delivery.


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« Reply #45 on: October 12, 2012, 07:01:29 PM »

The small standing birds were printed in 2 different spacings on the "3M Scotchlite" printing stock. I don't know why the wider spacing was used. I have been told the printing materials had a cost, especially the various inks. After the colors were applied, I believe the whole printed portion of the decal was covered with a clear coat as the inks were not as UV resistant as the inks today.


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« Reply #46 on: October 12, 2012, 07:04:57 PM »

Here is a sheet with the wider spacing. I also remember the small standing Road Runners with a black "highlight" around the eyes.


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« Reply #47 on: October 12, 2012, 07:06:12 PM »

That is some interesting stuff Redbird, thanks!   cheers 2thumbs
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« Reply #48 on: October 12, 2012, 07:07:53 PM »

The 1972 Road Runner type round decals were done as a complete decal.


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« Reply #49 on: October 12, 2012, 07:17:02 PM »

"Superbird" decals were done differently. The center standing bird was first printed, there was another standing bird about an inch to the left of this one. The birds were then cut out and imported to another sheet where the round lettering had been cut and also imported to. That way all the ink and clear coat didn't need to be put on the lettering. FWIW there is more detail on the big standing birds on the Superbird than the small regular birds. For instance in the purple above the "Superbird's" right eye there is a small black charactor line, like he has "squinted" his eye or something similar.


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