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RE-BODIED daytona on ebay

Started by cdr, January 24, 2013, 10:58:30 AM

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cdr

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hemigeno

Quote from: cdr on January 24, 2013, 10:58:30 AM
lotts wrong with this one.

... the first of which is the fact that this is a Charger500 cloned to be a Daytona.

:o :rotz:

pettybird

almost sounds like he doesn't know?

Indygenerallee

Was he drunk when he wrote the ad??  :lol:
Sold my Charger unfortunately....never got it finished.

hemigeno

Quote from: Indygenerallee on January 24, 2013, 11:09:59 AM
Was he drunk when he wrote the ad??  :lol:

French-Canadian, I'd guess.  They'd be hysterical if I tried to write an ad in French.

hemi68charger

Quote from: hemigeno on January 24, 2013, 11:05:24 AM
Quote from: cdr on January 24, 2013, 10:58:30 AM
lotts wrong with this one.

... the first of which is the fact that this is a Charger500 cloned to be a Daytona.

:o :rotz:

Wonder if anyone's told him yet.......  :scratchchin:
Troy
'69 Charger Daytona 440 auto 4.10 Dana ( now 426 HEMI )
'70 Superbird 426 Hemi auto: Lindsley Bonneville Salt Flat world record holder (220.2mph)
Houston Mopar Club Connection

cdr

Quote from: hemi68charger on January 24, 2013, 11:26:47 AM
Quote from: hemigeno on January 24, 2013, 11:05:24 AM
Quote from: cdr on January 24, 2013, 10:58:30 AM
lotts wrong with this one.

... the first of which is the fact that this is a Charger500 cloned to be a Daytona.

:o :rotz:

Wonder if anyone's told him yet.......  :scratchchin:

someone should! some one could get ripped off
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Troy

Looks like it was white. Am I reading the tag correctly that it was a black/black car to begin with?

So, just out of curiosity... a real, numbers matching, 36k mile Charger 500 converted to a Hemi 4-speed Daytona is worth what? Starting bid at $100k doesn't sound terribly unreasonable if you had to build it.

If the owner believes (believed?) it was a Daytona would he have done the Hemi 4-speed swap and color change when he already had the numbers drive train? Especially recently?

Troy
Sarcasm detector, that's a real good invention.

nascarxx29

If it was a black 69 500 cloned to a daytona it was on here before guy bought tags off ebay I think
1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

DAY CLONA

Quote from: Troy on January 24, 2013, 11:47:07 AM
Looks like it was white. Am I reading the tag correctly that it was a black/black car to begin with?

So, just out of curiosity... a real, numbers matching, 36k mile Charger 500 converted to a Hemi 4-speed Daytona is worth what? Starting bid at $100k doesn't sound terribly unreasonable if you had to build it.

If the owner believes (believed?) it was a Daytona would he have done the Hemi 4-speed swap and color change when he already had the numbers drive train? Especially recently?

Troy





The White "engine shot" provided is actually from a 1971 Dodge Challenger

johnnyseville

I had to call this guy for the hell of it, he is a SCAMMER.  You could hear laughing in the background, they know exactly what they have and are trying to pass it off as a Daytona.
too many to list!

hemi68charger

Just sent him an email, sounds like it's going to go on laughing deaf ears......
Troy
'69 Charger Daytona 440 auto 4.10 Dana ( now 426 HEMI )
'70 Superbird 426 Hemi auto: Lindsley Bonneville Salt Flat world record holder (220.2mph)
Houston Mopar Club Connection

johnnyseville

Quote from: hemi68charger on January 24, 2013, 12:33:05 PM
Just sent him an email, sounds like it's going to go on laughing deaf ears......

This is the reason I am very critical of many of the car listings, this guy is a not very smart at what he is doing, actually he is pretty stupid,  but there are some guys out there that ARE very smart, and to most people seem legit, unless you live on eBay and know all the tipoffs of SCAM.
too many to list!

tan top

Quote from: nascarxx29 on January 24, 2013, 12:14:38 PM
If it was a black 69 500 cloned to a daytona it was on here before guy bought tags off ebay I think

:2thumbs: :coolgleamA:  





:scratchchin: ebay  ,  :scratchchin:
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JB400

This car's tag.  Same tag that Tan top posted.  Fake car :flame:

nascarxx29

Like I said earlier the black tags went on to a hemi orange daytona clone

X9 black C500 VIN & fender tag on eBay....
« on: May 28, 2007, 04:01:02 AM »
1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

hemi68charger

Quote from: tan top on January 24, 2013, 01:00:16 PM
Quote from: nascarxx29 on January 24, 2013, 12:14:38 PM
If it was a black 69 500 cloned to a daytona it was on here before guy bought tags off ebay I think

:2thumbs: :coolgleamA:  
:scratchchin: ebay  ,  :scratchchin:

Brillant work Inspector Clouseau

Troy
'69 Charger Daytona 440 auto 4.10 Dana ( now 426 HEMI )
'70 Superbird 426 Hemi auto: Lindsley Bonneville Salt Flat world record holder (220.2mph)
Houston Mopar Club Connection

70Sbird

spacing and alignment on the (new) VIN tag looks like crap on the Charger/500/Daytona
:eek2:

Scott Faulkner

hawkeye

why would a 69 have 68 dash and console? :shruggy:

Indygenerallee

I went back over the pics and you have to love the classy wiring job done on the tail lights!! also I noticed a trunk floor plug missing, This guy is a douche.
Sold my Charger unfortunately....never got it finished.

pettybird

How rare is a black/black 500?  That had to be a tough sight back then.

C5X DAYTONA

The car was sitting a wrecking yard near Delta BC Canada in the late 80s.   It's a red stripe car too.   The second owner was a Wing Warrior Member.  8-16-1976 the car had 54,138 on the odometer.  Also had rear defroster.   The tags sold on ebay for $500.    The 500 was scrapped after the tags were removed.      :brickwall:
Caution.... Low flying aircraft.

nascarxx29

, Black, Yes, Auto, Dale Vidulich Delta BC Canada". That got me thinking, there was a guy on Ebay selling a Vin tag and a fender tag from a black on black C500 a few months ago. He was also located in BC. Im thinking, could the tags be from the car thats on your list?


http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,10673.0.html
1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

C5X DAYTONA

Yes,  same car.   The tags for this clone on ebay were on ebay a few years ago.  I contacted the seller to inquire about the car as it is in the WW file as a known car and he said it was sitting in a local B.C. wrecking yard years prior.
Caution.... Low flying aircraft.

Mytur Binsdirti

On Jan-24-13 at 10:22:46 PST, seller added the following information:

This Dodge Charger 1969 was converted into Dodge Charger Daytona 1969

Old Moparz

I can hear it now from the "rebody crowd" that there is absolutely nothing wrong with swapping or making reproduction VIN tags.
               Bob                



              I Gotta Stop Taking The Bus

69_500

I tried to buy those tags when they were on eBay back then to keep something like from happening.

Old Moparz

Quote from: 69_500 on January 25, 2013, 05:39:02 PM
I tried to buy those tags when they were on eBay back then to keep something like from happening.



Look at the bright side Danny, at least it's documented on here. That means there is less chances for someone getting ripped off by the fake VIN tag swapper.   :Twocents:
               Bob                



              I Gotta Stop Taking The Bus

Montreal Wing Car

I posted pics of this car here before, it's a local... Owner was doing a lot of wheelin' and dealin' back in th 80's when people were a lot less knowledgeable and he seems to think it will still work... He's got a few "hemi" cars and "Shelbys". You are right about it being an "enveloppe" car, it' a regular Charger with fiberglass pieces. He used to get away with selling rusty Chargers for big money here, but now he's well-known, and with the availability of body panels now, he has a hard time getting rid of his rust buckets...
He does have a few real cars he keeps, for instance, there is a 54 Vette in the basement of his restaurant that can be seen through a thick piece of glass in the floor!

nascarxx29

1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

RallyeMike

Though I don't condone it, I can actually understand the logic of buying 500 tags to rebody another car into a 500 in an effort to re-create it.

But why someone would buy 500 tags to rebody another car into a Daytona has me scratching my head.   :shruggy: 
1969 Charger 500 #232008
1972 Charger, Grand Sport #41
1973 Charger "T/A"

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Montreal Wing Car

Quote from: RallyeMike on January 26, 2013, 01:04:30 AM
Though I don't condone it, I can actually understand the logic of buying 500 tags to rebody another car into a 500 in an effort to re-create it.

But why someone would buy 500 tags to rebody another car into a Daytona has me scratching my head.   :shruggy: 

There is another red Hemi Daytona clone that's in my earlier post that was linked to a few posts above. That one is represented as a 70 Charger. It has probably more value than the cobbled-up one, even if that one has a "real" XX29 VIN. It was a dumb decision to make it into a Daytona instead of a 500, but knowing the owner, he wanted the more outlandish look of the Wing Car...

tan top

Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

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C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.925.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

odcics2

Quote from: RallyeMike on January 26, 2013, 01:04:30 AM
Though I don't condone it, I can actually understand the logic of buying 500 tags to rebody another car into a 500 in an effort to re-create it.

But why someone would buy 500 tags to rebody another car into a Daytona has me scratching my head.   :shruggy: 

Rebodying is a felony....   There are plenty of folks doing time for it.

Why would a guy expose himself on ebay?    (hmmm, that sounds funny...  :smilielol:)
I've never owned anything but a MoPar. Can you say that?

Montreal Wing Car

Quote from: odcics2 on February 09, 2013, 09:13:15 AM
Quote from: RallyeMike on January 26, 2013, 01:04:30 AM
Though I don't condone it, I can actually understand the logic of buying 500 tags to rebody another car into a 500 in an effort to re-create it.

But why someone would buy 500 tags to rebody another car into a Daytona has me scratching my head.   :shruggy: 

Rebodying is a felony....   There are plenty of folks doing time for it.

Why would a guy expose himself on ebay?    (hmmm, that sounds funny...  :smilielol:)

This guy still thinks it's the 80's...where that sort of thing was more common...

Patronus

Quote from: 70Sbird on January 24, 2013, 02:04:16 PM
spacing and alignment on the (new) VIN tag looks like crap on the Charger/500/Daytona
:eek2:


Im sorry, but that is some sketchy shit right there.  :-\
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'69 Charger 383 "Luci"
'08 CRF 450r
'12.5 450SX FE

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Budnicks

Quote from: hemigeno on January 24, 2013, 11:12:43 AM
Quote from: Indygenerallee on January 24, 2013, 11:09:59 AM
Was he drunk when he wrote the ad??  :lol:

French-Canadian, I'd guess.  They'd be hysterical if I tried to write an ad in French.
:hah: yeah I was thinking the same exact thing....
"fill your library before you fill your garage"   Budnicks

charger_fan_4ever

He is the guy at the local swaps with charger fenders that have holes the size of your fist in them for $500. He hasn't realized its not 1995 anymore.


Someone needs to send him a link to this thread :)

maxwellwedge

Sounds like he has seen it - based on the ad changing..... :scratchchin:

Budnicks

"fill your library before you fill your garage"   Budnicks

charger_fan_4ever

100k for a rebody and looks like the trunk floor has been paint brushed with black rustoleum paint.


Nice

A383Wing



tan top

Quote from: charger_fan_4ever on February 20, 2013, 01:57:01 PM
Hes got a shelby on the bag too.

Wonder if its a fake too.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ford-Mustang-GT-500-1968-FORD-MUSTANG-SHELBY-GT-500-convertible-/150995013757?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item232801107d

yeah was thinking that too , once your known for any iffy goings on !!  makes you wonder what else is real or fake !  seller can never be trusted with anything ever again :yesnod: :Twocents:
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C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.925.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

charger Downunder

He should just stick the original tag and vin back on the car and sell it with them. Its too scary with the wrong tags to even go anywhere near it. Plus who needs the hassle.
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Budnicks

I don't really have any problem with clones or tributes, not everyone can afford a real Daytona or a 500 even, but don't try to pawn them off as being a, real Daytona or even a 500...  damn frauds :brickwall:
"fill your library before you fill your garage"   Budnicks

Montreal Wing Car

Quote from: tan top on February 20, 2013, 02:41:47 PM
Quote from: charger_fan_4ever on February 20, 2013, 01:57:01 PM
Hes got a shelby on the bag too.

Wonder if its a fake too.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ford-Mustang-GT-500-1968-FORD-MUSTANG-SHELBY-GT-500-convertible-/150995013757?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item232801107d

yeah was thinking that too , once your known for any iffy goings on !!  makes you wonder what else is real or fake !  seller can never be trusted with anything ever again :yesnod: :Twocents:

He has quite a few cars, this one is legit. Most of the other cars were ''restored'' in the 80's-90's, with parts and knowledge of that day, but never updated. Can't say he has a very good reputation locally, he does have some real valuable cars, like a 54 Vette and more Shelby's

tan top

back on  !! changed ad  , made more specific it was a C500 , converted to a Daytona  ,  starting bid ! lower too at 50k

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/DODGE-CHARGER-500-converted-into-1969-daytona-/151003528552?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item232882fd68

Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

Charger Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,86777.0.html
Chargers in the background where you least expect them 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,97261.0.html
C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.925.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

charger_fan_4ever

Title sounds like it is being advertised as a C500.