Is the fan spacer on a Superbird natural aluminum or painted?

[Mopar John]

Another question for original Superbird owners. On the fan spacer is it natural aluminum or painted?
Thanks!

[Aero426]

I thought it was natural aluminum.   But CRS could be setting in.  

John, just sent you a PM.

[ODZKing]

  That CRS is getting around. Knocked at my door a few times as well.
I know there is a huge difference in years but my 67 has no A/C and has a spacer. When I took that all apart ... and I have to say when I got it, I am fairly certain nothing had been done to the engine because I scraped 30 years of grease from it ... it had remnants of black on it along with the pulley.  So when I detailed it, it got painted black.
Again that is a 67, I can't speak for a 70.

[62 Max]

Another question for original Superbird owners. On the fan spacer is it natural aluminum or painted?
Thanks!

John,
Your bird should have a clutch fan with no spacer.

[FJ5WING]

Bill,
I don't have the clutch and until a few months ago from the DC board I thought all Superbirds were spacer only.

[62 Max]

That's because I'm old and senile,sometimes we forget what we think we know !! 

[70EK2Bird]

Since my bird had the wrong engine in it when I got it I cannot say, but the 70 383 HP motor my brother in law has did have a spacer and it was just bare aluminum.  If that helps.

[hemi68charger]

I was under the impression that the 'Birds came with the spacer and 224 fan ( direct drive ). All the spacers I've seen in '69 and '70 were natural....... But, that's just what I saw.. Jimbo?

[FJ5WING]

Troy,
I always thought that too, Until I learned here that the clutched fan on Superbirds is not unheard of.

[Aero426]

Mine is a spacer.   If it was changed, it would have to have been in the first two years or 8000 miles.   I assume it's original to the car.

[Mopar John]

Thanks for all the replies and comments!
To sum this up our Superbird should have the spacer that's there and it should be natural aluminum.
MJ

[66FBCharger]

Doesn't the broadcast sheet have a code for fan/spacer? That would tell you whether your car came with a clutch fan or direct drive fan.
Of course that is assuming you are lucky enough to have the broadcast sheet.

[FJ5WING]

Yes John,
natural finish on the spacer will be considered correct and accepted as factory on your (BEAUTIFUL) Superbird.

[thehemikid]

 I don't know who's bird this is/was, but noticed it's 16 Fan & 70 spacer. Is that a solid or clutch drive?

[hemi68charger]

I don't know who's bird this is/was, but noticed it's 16 Fan & 70 spacer. Is that a solid or clutch drive?

216 fan  (clutch type )
070 Viscous Clutch

[RealWing]

After Nov 5, 1969, all Superbirds with 440 4bbl or 6 bbl and with 727 tranny had a solid drive fan installed instead of viscous to "improve cooling". The spacer is 1.06" p/n 1851959. The last 2 digits are coded on the BS.
It should be natural aluminum.
Jim

[hemi68charger]

After Nov 5, 1969, all Superbirds with 440 4bbl or 6 bbl and with 727 tranny had a solid drive fan installed instead of viscous to "improve cooling". The spacer is 1.06" p/n 1851959. The last 2 digits are coded on the BS.
It should be natural aluminum.
Jim

I thought all Superbirds were built within a very tight production time window.....

[Aero426]

I thought all Superbirds were built within a very tight production time window.....

They were.   Cars had to be built by the end of 1969.   All production took place in the last quarter.   

They got the 2000 cars done in about same time it took to do 500 Daytonas.

[hemi68charger]

I thought all Superbirds were built within a very tight production time window.....

They were.   Cars had to be built by the end of 1969.   All production took place in the last quarter.   

They got the 2000 cars done in about same time it took to do 500 Daytonas.

That is sort of my point, within the short time window of production they changed the cooling components...

[thehemikid]

 So, a Bird with a lower VIN beginning with say 16 for example (not the one I mentioned above) can come off the assembly line before Nov 5, with a clutch fan & yet have a later Clairpoint (sp) date than a solid fan Bird. Correct?  Because of the way they batched them for Clairpoint?   

I guess the before assembly line VIN batching would play into that too?

[62 Max]

Mine is 166xxx,6pk 4spd,has original 070 clutch fan.

[hemi68charger]

Mine is 166xxx,6pk 4spd,has original 070 clutch fan.

How's your cooling situation? I was wondering if, with the hemi and the TTI ceramic coated headers, if I could/would go back to the clutch 215/216 fan that was in the Daytona to begin with....  Right now I have a 223 drive drive fan...

[62 Max]

Mine is 166xxx,6pk 4spd,has original 070 clutch fan.

How's your cooling situation? I was wondering if, with the hemi and the TTI ceramic coated headers, if I could/would go back to the clutch 215/216 fan that was in the Daytona to begin with....  Right now I have a 223 drive drive fan...

Troy,
This thing has never seen 200* since I've owned it,(31 yrs) 195* stat,original radiator re cored 10 yrs ago, attached it average operating temp,after market gauge,reads the same as cluster gauge,sometimes makes it to 190*,but usually averages somewhere in between.

[hemi68charger]

Troy,
This thing has never seen 200* since I've owned it,(31 yrs) 195* stat,original radiator re cored 10 yrs ago, attached it average operating temp,after market gauge,reads the same as cluster gauge,sometimes makes it to 190*,but usually averages somewhere in between.

[RealWing]

According to the NASCAR listing, Superbirds after about 158600 would have had solid drive fans. (The last column is the date the birds were received at Clairpointe.)

RM23V0A   155802   05-Nov
RM23V0A   155803   07-Nov
RM23R0A   158577   10-Nov
RM23R0A   158578   13-Nov
RM23R0A   158579   05-Nov
RM23R0A   158580   13-Nov
RM23R0A   158581   11-Nov
RM23R0A   158582   14-Nov
RM23R0A   158583   14-Nov
RM23R0A   158584   07-Nov
RM23V0A   158585   06-Nov
RM23V0A   158586   13-Nov
RM23V0A   158587   07-Nov
RM23V0A   158588   11-Nov
RM23V0A   158589   05-Nov
RM23V0A   158590   05-Nov
RM23V0A   158591   07-Nov
RM23U0A   158592   13-Nov
RM23U0A   158593   06-Nov
RM23U0A   158594   05-Nov
RM23U0A   158595   04-Nov
RM23U0A   158596   14-Nov
RM23U0A   158597   04-Nov
RM23U0A   158598   05-Nov
RM23U0A   158599   06-Nov
RM23U0A   158600   16-Nov

[billssuperbird]

Is the fan and pulley black.

[62 Max]

Semi gloss black !

[billssuperbird]

  I will make mine wright.

[thehemikid]

According to the NASCAR listing, Superbirds after about 158600 would have had solid drive fans. (The last column is the date the birds were received at Clairpointe.)

RM23V0A   155802   05-Nov
RM23V0A   155803   07-Nov
RM23R0A   158577   10-Nov
RM23R0A   158578   13-Nov
RM23R0A   158579   05-Nov
RM23R0A   158580   13-Nov
RM23R0A   158581   11-Nov
RM23R0A   158582   14-Nov
RM23R0A   158583   14-Nov
RM23R0A   158584   07-Nov
RM23V0A   158585   06-Nov
RM23V0A   158586   13-Nov
RM23V0A   158587   07-Nov
RM23V0A   158588   11-Nov
RM23V0A   158589   05-Nov
RM23V0A   158590   05-Nov
RM23V0A   158591   07-Nov
RM23U0A   158592   13-Nov
RM23U0A   158593   06-Nov
RM23U0A   158594   05-Nov
RM23U0A   158595   04-Nov
RM23U0A   158596   14-Nov
RM23U0A   158597   04-Nov
RM23U0A   158598   05-Nov
RM23U0A   158599   06-Nov
RM23U0A   158600   16-Nov

So a 16xxxx Bird having a 16 Fan & 70 Fan spa on its BS is not absolute, because the TSB my have came down after the printing/typing of its BS, but before the cars final line assembly before Clairpointe? 

So a correction on the BS was not important, ...just superseded by a TSB?

[rickroadrunner]

My 'Bird is 158632 and has aluminium fan spacer. The fan is solid and looks to be the original one. The photo show part number, does this look correct?

[maxwellwedge]

I need to check what's on mine - between my first one and my current one, one had a clutch, the other was solid - just don't remember which one had what. Also - I remember there was some kind of dealer bulletin instructing them to change out the clutch setup with the solid setup if there were cooling issues.....that would have been done early in the cars life.
And yes - spacers should be natural unpainted.

[billssuperbird]

Done 

[Silent-H]

Hello, I'm new here and thought I'd help out.

5400 mile 440+6 Survivor Superbird fan spacer:

[billssuperbird]