General lee exhaust

[keith88]

Hi next spring i will being replacing the exhaust on my charger. Would any one know what was used on the General Lee on the TV show i always loved  the sound of it,i thought i remember reading that it was flowmasters but i dont think they had them back then.

[Charger-Bodie]

Most likely glass packs. I'm not positive on that but it's my guess.

[Ghoste]

I would think glass packs too, certainly not Flowmasters.

[Indygenerallee]

The sound was just edited into the show, the actual sound is not what the actual car on screen sounded like. But yes for late 70's I would go with glasspacks

[Mike DC]

        
No flows in the early 1980s.  

They used glasspacks when they did replace any mufflers on the cars.  

More than anything else though, The GL was a variety of different car sound effects being dubbed over the footage during editing.  It was not typically what was heard at the time of shooting.  




Remember in the 2nd episode "Daisy's Song"?  
Remember in the junkyard, when the boys & Daisy ram the FBI guys from behind, and run them into another parked car?  That's a real glasspack sound.  

Or at least that's a fresh glasspack sound anyway.  

After a few months a set of glasspacks will sounds different (louder) than when you first get them.  The prop-car GLs would rarely have ever seen enough miles to "break in" their glasspacks before the car was totaled.  
   

[knightprowl]

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[lukedukem]

I too am looking for general lee exhaust. But I would like to know what they use in the 2005 movie. The sceen when they pick it up from cooters and when rosco opens the gate at night and they fire it up. The lights come on and they come sliding out of the tow yard. Anyone know what they used there. I know it's a long shot.
I also didn't mean to hijack this thread. Sort of.

Luke

[knightprowl]

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[lukedukem]

Thanks for the info. I figured it was a hemi. I'm gonna try to get as close to it as I can. Just love the way it sounds.

Luke

[Indygenerallee]

They would have never used a 528 Hemi in a movie car..

[knightprowl]

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[ws23rt]

No questions from me--   You are welcome and peace.

[Indygenerallee]

Well they did use the 528 hemi. I know because one of the surviving ones used in the movie that was also a close up car had one. Now whether or not the used the 528 hemi in the second unit stunt cars is beyond me. But they did use the 528 hemi in the first unit ones or at least some of them. So yes they did use the 528 hemi.

I can guarantee they did not, Movies are made to make money not spend ridiculous money on a engine for a prop. without pics and proof your argument is invalid.

[knightprowl]

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[ws23rt]

Peace

[Mike DC]

Hemi GLs:

Hollywood doesn't spend that kind of coin for prop cars unnecessarily - but somebody like Chrysler might loan them some real 528 motors just for product placement reasons.  This happened in the 2005 movie.  

In the old TV series they never used a real Hemi.  Just dressed up 383s in the closeup cars and occasionally a 440 in the 2nd-unit cars.  

They really didn't need a ton of horsepower for that kind of dirt road action.  Handling upgrades paid off a lot better for what they were doing.



The engine noise when they roar out of Cooter's in the 2005 movie:

Hate to break it to you, but . . . I recall hearing that the sound used for that was recorded off a hot smallblock Chevy.  

[keith88]

I was thinking glasspacks as well I have a 318 so its not going to be the same sound as a big block,and i kinda figured that it was a edited sound but still liked it anyway.Even if it is a edited sound wonder where it came from and what they used. As for the DOH info i cant get enough of it you can keep that coming the show is what got me interested in cars when i was a early teen back in the day also responsible for my 1st 3 cars being 70 chargers after the frame rotted i bought a 69 camaro which i had for over 20 years and sold to buy the 69 charger that i always wanted to begin with  and have now.
Although it was not in the shape claimed by the guy i got it from I now have my dream car...with a little work to do.

[Ghoste]

I wouldn't worry about the 318, I doubt there are many who can pick your 318 or a big block by the sound and the glasspacks will make that even more so.

[Dreamcar]

After hearing Bubba Watson drive Lee 1 with Carl Edwards (watch it on youtube) I asked Jim Shine and he was kind enough to check the receipt for me...Flowmaster 50's with that 383 motor

[mopar2]

 


Hate to break it to you, but . . . I recall hearing that the sound used for that was recorded off a hot smallblock Chevy.  

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Yes that killer sound in the 2005 was a small block Chevy in a Camaro   Bites but true.
Glass packs during later years when they finally started standardizing the GL's some.
What's left of Lee 1 Flowmaster 50's Listen to the video of Watson taking some guy for a ride, car sounds good.

I was running Flow master Supper 44's on mine (I love the sound of Flows, Outside a car LOL) But have changed to Dynomax, which is a glass pack. It's the one Ron Fierfigeter recommends for performance. It's a straight through design unlike the turbulence glass packs with louvers in them.

[knightprowl]

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[Dreamcar]

Thank you for posting that information Dreamcar. I didn't know LEE 1 had custom exhaust mufflers. And flowmaster 50 series at that . And since Jim Shine told you then I know it is correct. I guess I am still learning more and more about LEE 1 everyday. Hopefully Jim Shine will get back to me on my list so that I can fix any errors that I have and can make my LEE 1 list even more accurate. So wish me luck on that and we might have the ultimate definitive LEE 1 information list before you know it .

Thank you and Peace.

You're welcome. FM50s is what they put on during the rebuild (according to Jim), but that doesn't mean Lee1 had somethink like those during filming. However, i figure they installed something similar to what Lee1 had back in the day, and FM50s are probably similar. 

[Mike DC]

   
Yeah, AFAIK Flowmasters did not yet exist until closer to 1990.  I dunno what year they first hit the scene but they were not on the map in the fall of 1978.

[knightprowl]

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[Dreamcar]

It probably had stock or cheap stock replacements during filming. Classic Industries has a stock system with turndowns which would probably be close to what it had, but the FM50s are not so aggressive that they are probably very close.

[knightprowl]

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[mopar2]

 FlowMaster is nothing like what the GL had. Including the sound on top of the fact they weren't made in that time frame. You really have 2 choices stock or glass-packs. Which glass-packs are a known GL muffler, especially once the cars were standardized some. Wither Lee 1 had stock or glass-packs the sound used during the show for Lee 1, is glass-pack.

[Dreamcar]

The scene when LEE1 pulls into the Boars Nest is probably it if you can actually hear it (i havent watched it in a while so i can't remember)

[mopar2]

When Lee 1 is jumping Rosco, you can hear in the background the popping of glass-packs  Faint which would mean real, not daubed in. As in later jumps (same video) where its really clear, visible and loud glass-pack sound.

I love  exhaust sounds and can identify lots of Brand and series differences LOL. Personally in 5,000 miles I've changed my Chargers 4 time and my truck I've lost count but my wife probably hasn't 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tOORni_6Uo

[mopar2]

   Takes a lot of readding but you can see the differences in opinions and facts at this sight http://www.cglfc.com/wforum/ No B.S. before starting mine, I read up and goggled every day 1-6 hours for almost two years  This was one of the best one stop places to read up on GL's. The majority of information is there. You will have to just dig through to separate  There is a guy I believe his name is Bubba as well (no, not Watson) That arguably as a more authentic Lee 1, than the car tittled Lee 1 

[mopar2]

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Hands Down, this IS The Best sight, to get any help or advice with your Charger   
The previous is for GL facts, not that they couldn't help you and a lot of people are on both. It's Just MHO  in what the two specialize in.  And how I've been helped 

[Ghoste]

Aren't there jump scenes where you can stop frame it and see whats under the car?

[mopar2]

Yes, that's where you can clearly see glass-packs  . But knightprowler wants Lee 1 and the video is very dark  Maybe on the DVD you could see better and is a good idea 

Side note I like SS style dumps at the rear corners. Where I'm not anywhere nears any certain car, I found in one episode where they were backing out of an alleyway that had this style  In the first season.

[Ghoste]

What about LEE1 when it was repainted and used in a different episode, wouldn't it still have the same exhaust?  Or maybe the photos when they dragged it out of the bush?  I don't know. 

[mopar2]

  Watching the first episode and the one it shows back up in closely on DVD to pause it.  Looking up the guy I mentioned earlier will have a lot of this covered 

[knightprowl]

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[moparnation74]

 Takes a lot of readding but you can see the differences in opinions and facts at this sight http://www.cglfc.com/wforum/ No B.S. before starting mine, I read up and goggled every day 1-6 hours for almost two years   This was one of the best one stop places to read up on GL's. The majority of information is there. You will have to just dig through to separate   There is a guy I believe his name is Bubba as well (no, not Watson) That arguably as a more authentic Lee 1, than the car tittled Lee 1  

No problem Knightprowl, thanks for removing that.

On a side note, there is nothing wrong with striving for perfection.

[knightprowl]

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