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Started by billssuperbird, March 09, 2015, 10:56:44 AM

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billssuperbird

eBay number 191532206360  build sheet 1970 Superbird rm23uoa178682 price 2.500.00  :eek2: :o :shruggy: :icon_bs:

hemi68charger

I'm sorry, that's crazy....... for a "common" u-code..........
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held1823

$2500 for something that should be reunited with the car for free

greed will eventually be the downfall of everything that we hold dear
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p33tef

Quote from: held1823 on March 09, 2015, 11:51:37 AM
$2500 for something that should be reunited with the car for free

greed will eventually be the downfall of everything that we hold dear

Agree totally, the worst kind of person

farm966

Capitalism at its finest...supply and demand. I agree it should be returned to the person owning the car, possibly something for the guys time, lunch or dinner perhaps at the most. I would be embarrassed to ask such a price, but for what I have seen people adversities NOS parts, this doesn't surprise me.

tan top

Quote from: billssuperbird on March 09, 2015, 10:56:44 AM
eBay number 191532206360  build sheet 1970 Superbird rm23uoa178682 price 2.500.00  :eek2: :o :shruggy: :icon_bs:

:2thumbs:  :cheers:


should be given to the owner of the car  :Twocents:


http://www.ebay.com/itm/1970-Plymouth-Superbird-Original-Broacast-Sheet-RM23U0A178682-/191532206360?hash=item2c98358918&vxp=mtr



Quote from: held1823 on March 09, 2015, 11:51:37 AM
$2500 for something that should be reunited with the car for free

greed will eventually be the downfall of everything that we hold dear


yeah think your right  :yesnod:
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tan top

 :popcrn:
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Bob T

Agreed.
What an A-hole.
Advertise it on there to get the wider interest but at best a donation to send it back to where it rightfully belongs, or a donation to a charity of the buyers choice.
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r4daytona

Notice how he said it was in pieces and sold it but just happened to forget about this.  Obviously he got it when HE got the car but forgot to include it when he sold it.  Makes you wonder if it was done intentionally to make a few bucks years later.

Aero426

Quote from: r4daytona on March 09, 2015, 01:16:30 PM
Notice how he said it was in pieces and sold it but just happened to forget about this.  Obviously he got it when HE got the car but forgot to include it when he sold it.  Makes you wonder if it was done intentionally to make a few bucks years later.

Probably not his intent at the time, but it would seem he is out to recapture some money lost for selling too early.     :rofl:

Anyone else notice the rather large error he made in the listing?  

held1823

after i sell mine to danny from my deathbed, i will have the kids hold the buildsheet to extort another $20 from him twenty years later.
Ernie Helderbrand
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tan top

  :scratchchin:    vin  looks like RM23U0A176682      not 178682
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Aero426

Quote from: tan top on March 09, 2015, 01:39:02 PM
 :scratchchin:    vin  looks like RM23U0A176682      not 178682

:2thumbs:

6bblgt

Quote from: Aero426 on March 09, 2015, 01:22:29 PM
Quote from: r4daytona on March 09, 2015, 01:16:30 PM
Notice how he said it was in pieces and sold it but just happened to forget about this.  Obviously he got it when HE got the car but forgot to include it when he sold it.  Makes you wonder if it was done intentionally to make a few bucks years later.

Probably not his intent at the time, but it would seem he is out to recapture some money lost for selling too early.     :rofl:

Anyone else notice the rather large error he made in the listing?  

other than posting it large "in-living-color"?

on the other hand, he was probably beat down on price when he sold the project without excellent documentation AKA - "broadcast sheet"

RallyeMike

I think you guys have the seller all wrong.

I mean c'mon...... he's offering "Free Shipping" to the buyer !!!! Not only that, but free Expedited shipping !!! Gee-wiz  :rotz:

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Hemi Runner

If you guys think he's an a-hole, wait until someone else buys it, marks it up to $5000 and then tries to extort the owner of the car. This world has more of those kind of people then the "give it to the owner because it should have gone with the car" types :lol:

taxspeaker

Well I agree he ought to offer it as a nice thing, maybe dinner or a gift card. On the other hand I've been looking for my build sheet for 5 years and would pay at least something for it-not $2500 of course, but something. Pretty low on the part of the guy, glad its not mine since I would be tempted-just paid off the home equity line anyway.

UFO

Here's a thought. What if he listed that BIN price so high to ward off the average person from buying it. Current owner makes contact , seller stops auction and lets it go at a much more reasonable price.
Is the above wishful thinking?? Maybe.

talkiemopar

My c500 had a hemi build sheet when I got it in 1980. I found the owner last year in PA. I had to go there, so on the way I stopped and gave it to her last Nov. for FREE. I could have sold it for a lot, but it made me feel real good that the build sheet got back after 45 years to the right car.  Rick. :Twocents: :2thumbs: :cheers:

A383Wing

a 999 paint code car also

6bblgt

It's a "Petty blue" Superbird J99539 - isn't that the highest known Petty blue Superbird VON?

FWIW, this car was assembled at Lynch Rd. after the "LAST" Superbird that was on eBay last week.  I have NOT looked at the Clairpointe dates for these two cars.  :shruggy:

tan top

Quote from: talkiemopar on March 09, 2015, 10:35:12 PM
My c500 had a hemi build sheet when I got it in 1980. I found the owner last year in PA. I had to go there, so on the way I stopped and gave it to her last Nov. for FREE. I could have sold it for a lot, but it made me feel real good that the build sheet got back after 45 years to the right car.  Rick. :Twocents: :2thumbs: :cheers:

that's great !!   :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:   awesome thing to do!!   :2thumbs: :2thumbs:    IMO that's  how it should be  !!  were all mopar brothers / sisters all friends  , & not in it for the money !! in this hobby for the love of these cars  :Twocents: 

yeah I know ,  its not a ideal world & not every everyone   works / thinks like that  , but ....  :P
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Lord Warlock

In a perfect world, I'd consider returning a build sheet to the current owner.  but seeing as he was a previous owner, its possible he may have sold other build sheets with the parts and misplaced one only to find it later.  And to him it was his link to his past glory.   I do know that if I ever sell my charger rtse, the build sheet and original fender tag will go with it.  Its only fair.

If it was a dude that found one in a junk yard and is trying to get a reward for gaining a sheet the easy way, I'd say he was scum.  But a previous owner? don't think that of previous owners.  And given the fact that Aero car owners tend to spend an excessive amount on your cars and sell them for much higher prices than the rest of us, maybe getting a build sheet for proof of build is worth a premium.  Don't see 2500 as being too high for a real rare superbird.  If I had a SB, and showed it often, I'd probably pay that for it.  But I'm not, will never be, so don't have to worry about it.

I would like to find a yellow 440 six pack SB that was sold in Jacksonville FL Plymouth dealer around 1973-4. (brand new) I remember looking at it on the lot when it was new.  Only one I ever sat in.  Know they were only asking 3000 for it, they had it in the showroom for 3 years and had just moved it to the lot.  Doubt I could afford it if found, but would like to see it again.
69 RT/SE Y3 cream yellow w/tan vinyl top and black r/t stripe. non matching 440/375, 3:23, Column shift auto w/buddy seat, tan interior, am/fm w/fr to back fade, Now wears 17" magnum 500 rims and Nitto tires. Fresh repaint, new interior, new wheels and tires.

rainbow4jd

Quote from: farm966 on March 09, 2015, 12:32:26 PM
Capitalism at its finest...supply and demand. I agree it should be returned to the person owning the car, possibly something for the guys time, lunch or dinner perhaps at the most. I would be embarrassed to ask such a price, but for what I have seen people adversities NOS parts, this doesn't surprise me.

Just make up a fake one!   Then the person who has the one on ebay won't have squat!   The build sheet is a piece of paper - nothing more!

Start hysterical, "sky is falling", "someday someone might buy a fake" debate hereafter.....     :hah:

PS  How do you know the one on ebay is real?

PSS And if it is real, how did the person come to possess it?  Theft of course!    If it has any value, then certainly the owner of the car can claim ownership to the build sheet, right?  Get the police involved.

What a stinker I is....




FJ5WING

Quote from: billssuperbird on March 09, 2015, 10:56:44 AM
eBay number 191532206360  build sheet 1970 Superbird rm23uoa178682 price 2.500.00  :eek2: :o :shruggy: :icon_bs:

Did I miss the part where he told us why he didn't include the sheet when he sold the car?

I hope he is just fishing for the current owner and figured he would get a lot of bang for the buck with he price.
wingless now, but still around.

nascarxx29

Quote from: Lord Warlock on March 10, 2015, 09:50:46 PM
In a perfect world, I'd consider returning a build sheet to the current owner.  but seeing as he was a previous owner, its possible he may have sold other build sheets with the parts and misplaced one only to find it later.  And to him it was his link to his past glory.   I do know that if I ever sell my charger rtse, the build sheet and original fender tag will go with it.  Its only fair.

If it was a dude that found one in a junk yard and is trying to get a reward for gaining a sheet the easy way, I'd say he was scum.  But a previous owner? don't think that of previous owners.  And given the fact that Aero car owners tend to spend an excessive amount on your cars and sell them for much higher prices than the rest of us, maybe getting a build sheet for proof of build is worth a premium.  Don't see 2500 as being too high for a real rare superbird.  If I had a SB, and showed it often, I'd probably pay that for it.  But I'm not, will never be, so don't have to worry about it.

I would like to find a yellow 440 six pack SB that was sold in Jacksonville FL Plymouth dealer around 1973-4. (brand new) I remember looking at it on the lot when it was new.  Only one I ever sat in.  Know they were only asking 3000 for it, they had it in the showroom for 3 years and had just moved it to the lot.  Doubt I could afford it if found, but would like to see it again.


you might see it again this one was yellow superbird from florida    http://www.wwnboa.org/poolbird.htm


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1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

held1823

Quote
If it was a dude that found one in a junk yard and is trying to get a reward for gaining a sheet the easy way, I'd say he was scum.  But a previous owner? don't think that of previous owners.

i see it exactly the opposite. one might expect extortion from an opportunist scavenger, but a previous owner trying to profit from a piece of paper he "forgot" to include when he sold the car? not cool.
Ernie Helderbrand
XX29L9B409053

Lord Warlock

Not every buyer of muscle cars even asks about a build sheet, only the high dollar investors expect it.  Not sure about you, but my filing skills weren't the best when left on my own, they've gotten a lot better since I got married 30 years ago.  Now I can find everything, up until I was 26 or so, you'd be lucky if I could find the title.  When I first got mine, I tossed two build sheets because I didn't know what they were, just thought some nutjob crammed a piece of paper up on top of the radio under the dash, it came out in several pieces but could have been taped back together. 2nd was rotted under the carpet under drivers seat.  3rd was under the back seat cushion, and that is the one I still have.  I also lost the certi card that was in car when I got it.

But we will have to disagree I guess, I give previous owners some credit for saving the car in good shape for me to own. The car is more important than the paperwork. 
69 RT/SE Y3 cream yellow w/tan vinyl top and black r/t stripe. non matching 440/375, 3:23, Column shift auto w/buddy seat, tan interior, am/fm w/fr to back fade, Now wears 17" magnum 500 rims and Nitto tires. Fresh repaint, new interior, new wheels and tires.

pettybird

Quote from: 6bblgt on March 10, 2015, 02:06:41 AM
It's a "Petty blue" Superbird J99539 - isn't that the highest known Petty blue Superbird VON?


I looked and saw 539 and thought 'wow that's pretty high.'

That *should* mean there are at least 40 of them?  I thought our car was special but now that it's one of a whopping 2% of production it seems rather pedestrian to me  :lol:

rainbow4jd

Quote from: pettybird on March 13, 2015, 05:33:07 PM
Quote from: 6bblgt on March 10, 2015, 02:06:41 AM
It's a "Petty blue" Superbird J99539 - isn't that the highest known Petty blue Superbird VON?


I looked and saw 539 and thought 'wow that's pretty high.'

That *should* mean there are at least 40 of them?  I thought our car was special but now that it's one of a whopping 2% of production it seems rather pedestrian to me  :lol:


hahahahahahahaha   dang!     :nana:

chubby53

It adds value to the car , pay up or go without . I wanted a £1k for mine Daytona sheet and parts list