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fender tags where to get one?

Started by socalcharger, April 28, 2018, 04:04:43 PM

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birdsandbees

 :cheers:
1970 'Bird RM23UOA170163
1969 'Bee WM21H9A230241
1969 Dart Swinger LM23P9B190885
1967 Plymouth Barracuda Formula S
1966 Plymouth Satellite HP2 - 9941 original miles
1964 Dodge 440 62422504487

charger500440

Quote from: birdsandbees on January 24, 2019, 03:26:14 PM
Dash tag you can just respray and stencil (ECS has the dry rub). Or as I did, because I f'd up the stencil, taped off the Chrylser logo.. sprayed,, rubbed out the tape line and cleared. Through the window you can't tell.  Fender tag, hit it with paint stripper and see how it looks. If you want a new one use Dave Wise at MMC Detroit LLC. He will want at least a photo of the tag, dash VIN, body stamps and possibly a broadcast sheet copy if you have one. No monkey business from Dave if you can't connect the dots on your car. No extra bogus codes, just what your car came with. Had him do one for my Bird and it was at least 30 emails and proofs back and forth before the tag was manufactured.

One word of caution - some states are very particular about restoring any VIN tags (et al). I know because I live in one - Connecticut, but there are other states too that take policing undocumented vehicles "very" seriously. My advice to anyone is to treat these tags like any other vintage part of your car - original is always better than reproduction and it's only original once - so only restore it if it's absolutely necessary. I think this is especially true of the dash VIN. My 500 has no b-cast sheet or fender tag, they're gone and there is nothing I can do about it. As frustrating as it is, when I do the dash I am going to leave the VIN exactly as it is. That way there is no question about the one key piece of documentation I have left. The VIN is intact and it matches the two body serial numbers which I will also make sure stay intact.

To the original post's point, if the fender tag is a mess and you can duplicate it exactly - why not? Save the original and there's no harm in that.
1969 SE  383 Automatic
1969 500 440 Automatic

birdsandbees

I'm not too worried, I can document the car right back to where my father bought it....  :2thumbs:
1970 'Bird RM23UOA170163
1969 'Bee WM21H9A230241
1969 Dart Swinger LM23P9B190885
1967 Plymouth Barracuda Formula S
1966 Plymouth Satellite HP2 - 9941 original miles
1964 Dodge 440 62422504487

green69rt

Quote from: birdsandbees on January 24, 2019, 04:54:38 PM
:cheers:

You VIN tag looks perfect.  Did you get a new Chrysler Logo decal?  That's what mine needs, mostly.   That and a new coat of black paint. ECS has the decal?  I couldn't find it on their website so will call tomorrow.

My VIN below.  I would be OK using it if it looked better.

And what about rivets?

green69rt

Just found it at ECS.  now I know what to do!

DAY CLONA

Quote from: Challenger340 on May 02, 2018, 07:57:23 AM


Can you please define "without all the BS" ?


That would be the accompanying replies/posts # 1,3,6,8,13,14,15,19...

DAY CLONA

Quote from: green69rt on January 24, 2019, 06:24:54 PM


And what about rivets?



one stop shopping at ECS (Dave Walden) dry rub transfer and rivets

birdsandbees

Yes Mitch, you can buy the "kit", two rivets and a dry transfer. I had mine done perfectly and then did something stupid and got some thinner tooo close and the transfer went to hell as it was too fresh.  What I show above is like I said "logo taped off, painted and then cleared" You can see where I taped it off.

Here's the dry rub transfer.. before I f'd it up! And for reference I got it in the correct place. The Pentastar points right into the center of the H. Yours looks to point at the left of the G, just make note of it's where abouts and duplicate.
1970 'Bird RM23UOA170163
1969 'Bee WM21H9A230241
1969 Dart Swinger LM23P9B190885
1967 Plymouth Barracuda Formula S
1966 Plymouth Satellite HP2 - 9941 original miles
1964 Dodge 440 62422504487

green69rt

Quote from: birdsandbees on January 24, 2019, 06:39:48 PM
Yes Mitch, you can buy the "kit", two rivets and a dry transfer. I had mine done perfectly and then did something stupid and got some thinner tooo close and the transfer went to hell as it was too fresh.  What I show above is like I said "logo taped off, painted and then cleared" You can see where I taped it off.

Here's the dry rub transfer.. before I f'd it up! And for reference I got it in the correct place. The Pentastar points right into the center of the H. Yours looks to point at the left of the G, just make note of it's where abouts and duplicate.

Good tip.  But  $53 for a very small decal and two rivets!! :eek2:

birdsandbees

Yep... and I have over a million rivets in my hangar... I still bought them from David. That said, you could make your own with a couple of 10 cent pop rivets and a dremel!
1970 'Bird RM23UOA170163
1969 'Bee WM21H9A230241
1969 Dart Swinger LM23P9B190885
1967 Plymouth Barracuda Formula S
1966 Plymouth Satellite HP2 - 9941 original miles
1964 Dodge 440 62422504487

green69rt

Final question (yeah, right), are the rivets for the fender tag the same as dash.  I seem to remember from this site that the fender tag uses some kind of screw...

birdsandbees

Fender tag is screwed down..
1970 'Bird RM23UOA170163
1969 'Bee WM21H9A230241
1969 Dart Swinger LM23P9B190885
1967 Plymouth Barracuda Formula S
1966 Plymouth Satellite HP2 - 9941 original miles
1964 Dodge 440 62422504487

green69rt


DAY CLONA

Quote from: green69rt on January 24, 2019, 08:17:49 PM
 But  $53 for a very small decal and two rivets!! :eek2:


Actually a very good deal, most vendors are getting $50+ for just 2 rivets, plus if it's coming from Dave W. you know it's correct and top quality

green69rt

Quote from: DAY CLONA on January 25, 2019, 03:02:23 PM
Quote from: green69rt on January 24, 2019, 08:17:49 PM
 But  $53 for a very small decal and two rivets!! :eek2:


Actually a very good deal, most vendors are getting $50+ for just 2 rivets, plus if it's coming from Dave W. you know it's correct and top quality

Just, sometimes I'm amazed at how much we're willing to shell out for our hobby.  It doesn't stop me but it does amaze me.

timmycharger

Quote from: green69rt on January 25, 2019, 04:14:16 PM
Quote from: DAY CLONA on January 25, 2019, 03:02:23 PM
Quote from: green69rt on January 24, 2019, 08:17:49 PM
But  $53 for a very small decal and two rivets!! :eek2:


Actually a very good deal, most vendors are getting $50+ for just 2 rivets, plus if it's coming from Dave W. you know it's correct and top quality

Just, sometimes I'm amazed at how much we're willing to shell out for our hobby.  It doesn't stop me but it does amaze me.

My thoughts exactly!  I bought the kit from Dave as well, came out perfect when I was done, but boy even though I have used hundreds of rivets on various things over the years, I was so nervous when I popped these two on. I didn't want to screw it up at $50 a pair!