4speed welding bracket location??

[javakmcharger68]

I have a aluminum bellhousing at this time in which I will be replacing with either a cast bellhousing or a lakewood for big block 383. The car was an original auto car so I will have to weld on the bracket for the z-bar to the frame of the car. Question I am wondering is if I do get a lakewood or cast iron bellhousing, is the location for the bracket located in a different area? Anyone that has done this bracket welding have there 2cents worth of help that would help? Can you weld this with the engine/ trans in the car, or does the engine/trans have to be pulled out? There is no drive train in the car at the moment. With this project any help would be helpful. Thanks

[Chryco Psycho]

the Z bar should be in the same pl;ace with any belhousing  it should center in the oval hole in the inner fenderwell
I did one last week & I was able to weld the braket in with the engine in the car

[RallyeMike]

I just installed a 4speed and zbar bracket in an ex- auto car tonight. It lined up correctly with the Lakewood scattershield at the stock location. With the lakewood scattershield I had to shorten the z-bar by and inch because the stud hung out farther than the stock one. I also had to grind the scattershield about 1/4" on the flange on the passenger side to clear the header, and the flange at the firewall to tunnel seam.

[javakmcharger68]

The lakewood bellhousing sounds like a pain in the ass. Thank you RallyeMike & Chryco Psycho for your response. I really don't like the idea chopping up my z-bar after going through all the trouble finding one, but that is the kind of stuff I will have to know to get this project done. I see the oval hole in the firewall Chryco Psycho, I would not have guessed the location of the bracket being that far up. I will try to find a picture searching the web. The bracket will be welded to the firewall then, instead of the frame?? I am looking at my stud bracket & trying to get my head around this subject. Thanks again

 

[Howie]

The bracket does not weld to the firewall. I am about to change one in a charger and it goes on the frame. Year One sells this bracket.

[RallyeMike]

The oval hole in the firewall is for the boot for the clutch rod going from the pedal to the z-bar. The oval hole in the inner fender is where you will access the nut for the ball-stud that attaches to the z-bar bracket.

Yes, scattershields are pain in the ass. They take up a lot of room and restrict access to the flywheel. I would not use one unless you plan on really throwing a lot of HP through the thing.

[694spdRT]

Here is the hole in the fenderwell the others are talking about.