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Vinyl tops suck

Started by ACUDANUT, November 29, 2019, 02:01:56 PM

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ACUDANUT

Vinyl tops suck. All they do is hold water and are pointless.  I should have saved my money on the 4 tops I had paid to be done and just painted them flat black. My  :Twocents:
However I respected the look at one time and redid them the Factory way. Now I am thinking differently. Thoughts ?

Kern Dog

I think that they look best on C body cars. To me, a vinyl top is for a luxury cruiser, not a performance car.

ACUDANUT

 Do you think they were made to help a car look like a convertible ?  I have seen plenty of 20 year old Ford/Lincoln/Mercury 4 door sedan's with a thick padded vinyl roof and is was actually made to look like it might be a convertible.

moparstuart

I love them  both these are over 50 years old and still look great  
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birdsandbees

Top on my Bird is original and 50 years old next week. That said, I prefer the "bald" look of my Coupe Bee!  :yesnod:
1970 'Bird RM23UOA170163
1969 'Bee WM21H9A230241
1969 Dart Swinger LM23P9B190885
1967 Plymouth Barracuda Formula S
1966 Plymouth Satellite HP2 - 9941 original miles
1964 Dodge 440 62422504487

VegasCharger

No vinyl tops for me. If it comes with a vinyl then it's getting removed, trim holes filled and smoothed over.

:cheers:

JB400

Personally, I think it sets off the body lines of our cars more so than without.

Nacho-RT74

Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

alfaitalia

I tend to think the opposite of that. On a vinyl top it detracts from the lines of the C pillar where it joins the rear fender and from the sail panels which are what makes a Charger, a Charger to me. I just see them as a moisture trap that's difficult to keep looking nice. I was not just a US thing....many UK cars of the 70s had them...I owned a few. 76 Ford Mk2 Escort, 74 Ford Mk2 Capri. 71 Ford Mk3 Cortina (really wish I still had that one!!).
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odcics2

No tops for me. Detracts from aerodynamics...   :yesnod:
I've never owned anything but a MoPar. Can you say that?

AKcharger


alfaitalia

Nope!....other way around....the grain of the vinyl roof helps the airflow at the boundary layer.....much like the dimples on a gold ball.

Richard Pettys  68 Plymouth used thick textured black paint on the roof for the same reason (not a vinyl roof as often wrongly said!) http://richardpettyfans.proboards.com/thread/840
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ACUDANUT

Might be true, but how many of us are racing these for money ?

lloyd3

In a perfect world, I'd prefer not to have a vinyl roof but...that's what came on the car I now own. They haven't been used for a very long time now and are starting to become a 60s and 70s period thing. Quirky but...correct.

69bronzeT5

If one of my cars came with a vinyl top (and I like it) as such is the case with my Citron Yella '71 R/T, I'd put it back on. I don't mind them...  :shruggy:
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odcics2

Quote from: alfaitalia on November 30, 2019, 10:10:05 AM
Nope!....other way around....the grain of the vinyl roof helps the airflow at the boundary layer.....much like the dimples on a gold ball.

Richard Pettys  68 Plymouth used thick textured black paint on the roof for the same reason (not a vinyl roof as often wrongly said!) http://richardpettyfans.proboards.com/thread/840

LOL!   So, why didn't either of the  Cotton Owens Daytonas get near the 200 mph mark??   They both had the textured paint.  The Show Car Daytona also had it!   Of course, on a car that never raced as a Daytona, guess it didn't matter!   :lol:    Facts are facts.     :cheers:

I've never owned anything but a MoPar. Can you say that?

VegasCharger

Quote from: ACUDANUT on November 30, 2019, 10:11:42 AM
Might be true, but how many of us are racing these for money ?

Works for me.  :2thumbs:

How fast would one have to go to make that irrelevant?? 140 mph??

I'm not going near that fast on the city streets, driving like a Jack A$$!!

I'll be doing 5-10 mph over posted speed limits with a trounce added here-n-there and maybe 20 over on back open roads.

But hey that's me.

:cheers:

Nacho-RT74

I know they can become on a troublemaker ( moisture, mantenience etc...) but still I like them!
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

DownZero

I like them. Gives a touch of nostalgia.

ACUDANUT

So does a 8 track players and bumper stickers. Remember those ?  :popcrn:

DownZero

I wish my charger had the 8 track player in it.

moparstuart

Quote from: ACUDANUT on December 01, 2019, 10:37:51 AM
So does a 8 track players and bumper stickers. Remember those ?  :popcrn:
mines got that too
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odcics2

Quote from: VegasCharger on December 01, 2019, 02:58:59 AM
Quote from: ACUDANUT on November 30, 2019, 10:11:42 AM
Might be true, but how many of us are racing these for money ?

Works for me.  :2thumbs:

How fast would one have to go to make that irrelevant?? 140 mph??

I'm not going near that fast on the city streets, driving like a Jack A$$!!

I'll be doing 5-10 mph over posted speed limits with a trounce added here-n-there and maybe 20 over on back open roads.

But hey that's me.

:cheers:

If painting the roof with textured paint worked, everybody would do it.
In fact, they'd paint the entire car like that!

A car is not a golf ball.   ;D

:cheers:
I've never owned anything but a MoPar. Can you say that?

alfaitalia

Might be more of a case of marketing the look to the public, Various Formula 1  teams have used the technology successfully recently on the leading and trailing edges of cars and this study recons a 1.9% reduction on drag.....of no consequence on the road but could make a difference on the track where we are now measuring in 1000ths of a second!!

https://www.theborneopost.com/2014/04/08/vehicle-aerodynamics-drag-reduction-through-surface-dimples/

https://www.autoblog.com/2009/10/22/mythbusters-golf-ball-like-dimpling-mpg/

Now Im not saying that a vinyl roof on an old car will really make any worthwhile difference.....but I bet it would not cause any measurable extra drag either.
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Birdflu

Quote from: odcics2 on November 30, 2019, 09:19:01 AM
No tops for me. Detracts from aerodynamics...   :yesnod:

That's why the Superbirds were so much slower than the Daytonas!  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: