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Testing a temperature gauge

Started by Kern Dog, May 21, 2025, 09:29:50 PM

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Kern Dog

When I had the gauges out of the Jigsaw Charger, I tested each one by putting 12 volts to them just to see if the needles moved. They all did.
I have a 67 Dart out back with an engine swap coming and I want to get the temperature gauge working. First though, I want to see if the problem lies elsewhere.
Isn't there a test.....where you pull the wire from the sending unit, ground it and watch the gauge to see if it pegs to the high side?

John_Kunkel


Grounding the wire "briefly" at the sender will tell if the gauge works but not its accuracy.  As you probably know, the gauges operate at a nominal 5 volts so don't run 12 volts through them for any length of time.
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Nacho-RT74

Yes, you can ground the sender wire and gauge should go a bit over the max reading.

Test gauges with 12 volts is REALLY dangerous. If you let them connected for more than a second they simply will burn. Better use one 1.5 volts batt, or two in series (3 volts)... or a cell phone charger (they are 5 volts, althought old Nokia ones use to be 4.5)
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Kern Dog

I tried it on the Dart. The fuel gauge and temp gauge have been dead for awhile.
I also tried it on another car...My "Jigsaw" Charger. I only had it grounded a short time (off and on for well under 20 seconds total) and saw no reading at the gauge....but now it doesn't show a reading to the oil pressure, fuel or temp gauges. They all worked before so I must have screwed up. I guess I'll have to pull the cluster and replace the voltage limiter. I have several instrument panels from Dusters and Darts.

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Kern Dog

I don't know what the heck happened. I went out to start the car today and this happened:

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Yeah....the gauges were dead yesterday but worked fine today. Looking around the internet forums, it seems that when all three are dead (Fuel-temp-oil pressure) then the problem is usually the voltage limiter.

69hemibeep


will

I think the chineseum senders stink. I have a gauge next to the sender that reads well above 50 psi but the dash gauge is not accurate.

Kern Dog

Just an aside to this...
My ratty 67 Dart had no movement at the temperature and fuel gauges for at least a couple years. I don't drive it much so it wasn't a priority to fix it. With the engine swap project planned, I wanted the gauges to all work.
I tried swapping gauge clusters, changing the IVRs, cleaning the wire terminals and nothing made a difference.
I had an instrument panel on the table and put power to each gauge and they did move so I knew the problem was elsewhere.
I backed off the attachment speed nuts and cleaned the circuit board contacts, I cleaned all attachment points and even went so far as to pull the bulkhead plugs, spray them with DeOxit and scrub terminals with a wire brush, then pack the plugs with dielectric grease.
Now the gauges work like they should. I credit the clean terminals with no corrosion.
Score!

Dino

My water pump has 2 sensors; one goes to the stock gauge, the other to the EFI ECU. The ECU reads a steady 185 when cruising while the stock gauge reads about 220. I don't like it, and I know it's easy to adjust, but I really don't want to pull the cluster again.
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