lokar kickdown linkage

[Silver R/T]

how hard is it to install it on 440/727.

[Rolling_Thunder]

it is not very difficult...        we go with the Bushalon (sp?) kits at the shop -

[Runner]

ive got the lokar on 2 of my cars and most likly will have it on 3, it works fantastic with the ar engineering throttle bracket     i no longer use that throttle sping set up btw.

[kamkuda]

Very simple, Bracket as shown above and a bracket on the tranny,  The adjustment can be made at the carb for appropriate line pressure

[Silver R/T]

I would need longer throttle cable if I go with that bracket

[whitehatspecial]

I have a question regarding the Lokar vs. Bouchillon kit. The Bouchillon kit includes a return spring at the transmission pressure lever and the Lokar does not. Is a return spring necessary and if so why doesn't Lokar include one ?

[mikepmcs]

 

[MedPhys]

Medium frustration connecting to kickdown lever, the rest is easy. It attaches to one of the preexisting transmission bolts.  I bought the throttle cable/ kickdown cable bracket for the lokar cables that fits on the performer rpm manifold (kickdown and throttle).  I think I got it all from mancini.  For me the most difficult part was attatching the cable to the kickdown lever.  The headers (tti) make it hard to fit my fingers and wrenches in there.  I was finally able to do it though. 

[John_Kunkel]

I have a question regarding the Lokar vs. Bouchillon kit. The Bouchillon kit includes a return spring at the transmission pressure lever and the Lokar does not. Is a return spring necessary and if so why doesn't Lokar include one ?

The spring is a good idea, it helps adjustments when the engine isn't running. Once thte engine is running and the transmission is in a forward gear the internal pressure will push the lever forward.

A comment on the Lokar :

Is it easy to install? Yes.

Is it easy to install correctly? Maybe not so easy, especially if the installer isn't familiar with the overall purpose of throttle pressure; the Lokar instructions are vague and generic.

The Bouchillon setup is more expensive but it's designed for use on Mopars.

[bluesfool]

For me the most difficult part was attatching the cable to the kickdown lever.  The headers (tti) make it hard to fit my fingers and wrenches in there.

Yep...I had the same trouble...nothing to stop anyone from getting one though. I like the Lokar setup MUCH better than the stock setup.

[kamkuda]

Is it easy to install correctly? Maybe not so easy, especially if the installer isn't familiar with the overall purpose of throttle pressure; the Lokar instructions are vague and generic.

This is what I found too,:iagree: originally I did not  have a good adjustment.  It had soft transistions between 1-2.  you have to take into account the gap that is built into the little gray bracket that attaches to the stud on your throttle.

[MedPhys]

Since we are talking about the lokar kickdown cable, and I am concerned that mine isn't adjusted properly.

Would someone explain the proper adjustment of the lokar kickdown cable, and position of the kickden lever when at idle.

[bluesfool]

The lever on the transmission should be all the way to the rear when the throttle is wide open. Have someone get in the car and put the gas pedal all the way to the floor while you adjust the cable...the transmission lever and the throttle linkage should both max out at the same time. The trans lever should be forward at idle; mine has a fair amount of play in it at idle though...don't know if they're all like that.

[John_Kunkel]

There is no requirement that the trans lever be full back at WOT, adjusting it that way will often result in late part throttle upshifts.

The goal of the operation of any throttle pressure setup, linkage or cable, is to have the transmission lever full forward at idle and near full back at WOT; there should be no slack or lost motion, the trans lever should start to move rearward as soon as the throttle opens.

With generic cable setups like the Lokar, the trick to proper operation is to match the travel of the carb attach point to the travel of the lever at the attach point. Given the difference in carb levers and the variety of trans lever lengths, this can become a real chore. With the Bouchillon both levers are provided so the travel is properly matched.