daytona for sale

[65post]

http://www.cars-on-line.com/30652.html

[hemigeno]

414635 is on the block yet again...   

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,903.0.html

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,9467.0/all.html

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,10281.0.html

[pettybird]

ouch.  I remember the car at the pigeon forge TN winged warriors meet, where the guy who restored it said he wasn't wanting to sell for a long time.  it was for sale within a year...



does it have a rear defroster?  i'm pissed i got caught up in handing out bogus "everyone knows" information and now i want the truth. 

[Rolling_Thunder]

Dave Nicholson owned that car previously correct?

[BigBlockSam]

 

[UFO]

Dash alone pic is 414635.No rear defogger switch.Next pic is another Canadian car also no switch.

[moparstuart]

  i know this car well.     Jim cordell here in kc my buddy owned and restrored it.   It was the last of the three famous basket cases out of canada .  Worst of the three and took alot to get it to that condition.  Their statements about the vins in that add scare me .     

[hemi68charger]

Yummy.........

That interior looks like my Dana, saddle tan 4-speed console............ Sweet !!!!

[nascarxx29]

I got some interior shots that might show a rear defroster switch . And more pictures of this daytona that was in Canada when the guy Gilles was selling it for $10K.And car is now in Ohio

http://mapleleafmopars.homestead.com/carsinbarns25.html

[pettybird]

that's ours!


414641, and yes it has a defroster.  f8/black, 440 console auto, ps/pdb, and not much else is known.  no fender tag, no bcast sheet.  options listed are the pretty obvious ones.  it has tinted glass in it, but the doors don't belong to the car.  also has a plain non-8 track dash, no tach.  after green, it was painted eb5, fc7 then fm3.  the quarters shown were the second set (by welding marks.)  the story goes that the car's sheetmetal went on a T5 hemi car, which fits as most of the sheetmetal on the car now is that color.  car has a '71 warranty non-hp short block, but has all date correct stuff on top (heads, intake, carb, dist, etc) so it was a warranty issue.  trans is a '71 used trans out of a st louis plant car.  8 3/4 rear has an open diff, so lord knows whether or not it had anything exciting in it.  i didn't bother to check ratio, but i'm assuming something dull like 2.76 or 3.23 with someone stealing the pumpkin.  the car would take a tremendous amount of work to put back on the street, so we're nonchalantly looking for a b-body shell and parts.  truthfully, a restoration of the body looked hopeless until recently with the emergence of repro sheetmetal--we own the marty robbins clone as well, and the two would become one.  now we're not so sure.  the floors and t-bar mount area are ok, the framerails are shot.  it's a real project, but i'd really like to see what could be done with it.


i would LOVE to know where to look for more information on this car!


i'm also looking for delivery/order # information on the car--who has the sheets for CDN cars?

[hemigeno]

414641 was listed as shipping to Trans Island Motors in Montreal, Quebec.  The SO number is 926315 according to the shipment list, and the build date is 610 for all but one of the Canadian-built cars...

That is one car I did not have on my list, so any information you can give me about what options would have been on the fender tag would be of immense help.  If we can get enough details, I'll bet we can create exactly what your fender tag would have read...

 

[FJMG]

    610BX926315, Trans Island motors ltd. Montreal, Que. Hope this helps.  T5 hemi car??? wow!!
Make sure you join the two aero clubs.

[hemigeno]

Oh, and it's #165 on the Shipment list too...

A couple of questions:

If you think the car had an 8-3/4" rear axle and the original transmission is gone (so we can't check the speedometer gear), perhaps the only indicator of what gear ratio the car had in it (3.23 or 3.55) would be whether the Power Steering pump had an external cooler.  If it had the cooler, then it would have had a 3.55 cog set.  I am still hoping to find a 3.23 Daytona one of these days, as I am curious to see if it would have had a 22" radiator yoke.  I can't find anything that says for certain that one couldn't have been made with a 3.23 & 22" radiator, and there are C500s that were equipped in that manner (right, PT?)

Did it have a manual mirror or remote?

2-speed or 3-speed wipers?

Black stripe, black interior?

Can you tell if it had the light group (turn signals, trunk light wire harness, map light, etc.)?  For whatever reason, it seems a whole lot of Daytonas - especially Canadian cars - came with the light group.

From what you are saying, the car had G11 all tinted glass rather than just the G15 tinted windshield, correct?  Your rear seat roll-down windows might be your best clue if the doors aren't original to the car.

No M25 sill mouldings evident, were they? 

[65post]

Drop Nigel a line.He may have some info on your car.Here is the link to his site......http://www.nationalmoparts.com/merchant.ihtml?id=3913&step=2

[nascarxx29]

More pictures of the former Canada daytona 414641

[pettybird]

    610BX926315, Trans Island motors ltd. Montreal, Que. Hope this helps.  T5 hemi car??? wow!!
Make sure you join the two aero clubs.

T5 hemi car isn't ours--that is a neat combo.  at least three exist to my knowledge IF the sheetmetal on my car was truly from a hemi car...


mom and dad joined both clubs before my first birthday 

[pettybird]

WOW list! 



If you think the car had an 8-3/4" rear axle and the original transmission is gone (so we can't check the speedometer gear), perhaps the only indicator of what gear ratio the car had in it (3.23 or 3.55) would be whether the Power Steering pump had an external cooler.  If it had the cooler, then it would have had a 3.55 cog set.
It does.  could have also been a super track pack car, too, right?  it has disc brakes.  how can i rule that out?



 I am still hoping to find a 3.23 Daytona one of these days, as I am curious to see if it would have had a 22" radiator yoke. 

wasn't max cool standard on daytonas?  i know birds a LOT better...


Did it have a manual mirror or remote?
doors have been changed...don't know.  currently has remote, will again.  i don't like manual mirrors.


2-speed or 3-speed wipers?
two, motor and switch in the dash match


Black stripe, black interior?
interior is black.  haven't pulled the pass. side marker housing, but i'm assuming there's no evidence left of the stripe through three full repaints.  it'll be white, though.  black stripe on F8 looks too dark.



Can you tell if it had the light group (turn signals, trunk light wire harness, map light, etc.)?  For whatever reason, it seems a whole lot of Daytonas - especially Canadian cars - came with the light group.

light group yes.  i thought it was odd that it didn't have 3 speed wipers, so it didn't get the charger preferred pack 1

From what you are saying, the car had G11 all tinted glass rather than just the G15 tinted windshield, correct?  Your rear seat roll-down windows might be your best clue if the doors aren't original to the car.

i'll check again tomorrow.

No M25 sill moldings evident, were they? 

what do they look like???




thanks a LOT for the questions!  it helps me to have others lay eyes on it, too!

[pettybird]

414641 was listed as shipping to Trans Island Motors in Montreal, Quebec.  The SO number is 926315 according to the shipment list, and the build date is 610 for all but one of the Canadian-built cars...

That is one car I did not have on my list, so any information you can give me about what options would have been on the fender tag would be of immense help.  If we can get enough details, I'll bet we can create exactly what your fender tag would have read...

 

do you have the same list that joe machado has, or do you have the one sue and ed george have?  ed told me the info I got from machado is wrong...  what's with that?

[nascarxx29]

The first daytona shipment list that Greg K turned up only to had #385 daytonas listed where you sent in your vin tracing.It was later that Anthony Young writer of mighty mopars.Which way back mentioned where the first and last daytona were shipped to.Supplied winged warriors with a siimilar list listing # 501 daytonas.I couldnt say where Joe got his info from.Your car is #165 on the list of near 50 daytonas shipped to Canada.
     

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 I did a while ago was daytona per state totals from info on the daytona ship list
69 Daytona list per state totals going from the current standing list number to date #501 cars from pages supplied in my club newsletter that shows the new car shipments for 69 daytonas and locations shipped to Including serial numbers and dealer number and dealer location. Also shows what states did and did not recieve a 69 daytona .Starting with the 440s AL-11 AZ-5 AR-2 CANADA 45 CA-38 CO-12 CON-2 DE-1 FL-16 GA-16 HAWAII-2 ID-1 IL-22 IN-21 IA-3 KAN-7 KEN-5 LOU-7 ME-1 MD-2 MASS-5 MI-26 MINN-3 MISS-1 MO-21 MONT-1 NEB-4 NV-2 NH-2 NJ-6 NY-26 NC-13 NDKT-1 SDKT-4.OH-25 OK-9 ORE-7 PA-23 RI-3 SC-4 TN-5 TX-20 UT-1 VT-1 VA-13 WA ST-7 WA-DC-2 W VA-1 WI-9-The 426 states AZ-1 CANADA-5 CA-7 CO-3 GA-1 IL-1 IN-1 KAN-1 MD-1 MI-2 MO-1 NY-1 NC-1 OH-3 PA-1 SC-1 TX-3 WVA-1 WI-1 .Total #501 465- 440 Hemi-36 for the 47 states 1 line was unreadable unknown state. 2 cars were 440 dodge exec cars with no dealer location in house cars and figured in with the MI total.Only #3 states didnt recieve 69 Daytona on this current list Alaska-New Mexico-Wyoming .

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[FJMG]

    Supposedly all Dana-equiped cars had the larger half-round axle bumper and the 8.75 cars recieved the pointed one. Having said that, I have seen an original one owner dana-equiped car that has the pointed bumper so I do not know how accurate this is.
    When you pull the side marker, remnants of the original stripe may still be stuck to the inside of the 1/4 panel and if you carefully sand the bezel the layers of previous paints may be revealed. The first layer should be primer, the second body color (due to stripe delete) and the third stripe color, unless of course your bezel came from a car whose body matched the stripe, in which case the second layer is the stripe color.
    Factory disk cars came with 10" drums in the rear.
    If you carefully remove the undercoating(assuming your car has it?)  from the firewall directly behind the pass. front wheel, do notice any markings?