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Re: Restoration of my B5 Blue 4Spd Charger 500... Blue Thunder debuts...Finally!

Started by xs29j8Bullitt, September 16, 2007, 05:39:22 PM

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xs29j8Bullitt

Quote from: PocketThunder on November 11, 2007, 10:32:52 PM
I'm a huge fan of being a do-it-yourselfer, but in this case i might have to suggest calling in the professionals.   :shruggy:

Unless you feel comfortable getting up on a 8 or 10 foot ladder and then squirting them with the Hornet Spray cans.  :scratchchin:

I had considered that, but I am concerned about collateral damage to some cars... mainly the ones with new paint (Challenger Convertible & Hemi `Cuda).  No ladder climbing to battle hornets by me !!!  :eek2:

But I am changing course...  :yesnod:  When I started this project almost three months ago, I decided to use some of the strategies that I used to lose weight several years ago.  One of the basic rules was that if one approach was not working anymore, try another... and another...  Sooooooo, today I called the paint & body shop to schedule having the Charger 500 picked up next Tuesday (Nov 20th).  Between now and then I will try to get more dis-assembly work done, but even if I don't get another screw taken out the car is going (unless the weather or paint shop causes a reschedule).  It will be a bit more money out of my pocket for them to finish taking the car apart, but worth it to get the car in work.  The last month has provided very little progess for a variety of reasons... time to grab another gear!

Quote from: 69_500 on November 12, 2007, 05:17:39 PM
Tell ya what Allen. I'll come down to Texas and kill all of those by hand in exchange for one of those funky wing cars you have? I'll get rid of all your winged creatures for you gladly.  :D

While the visual of you squaring off against several hundred Yellow Jackets in hand to stinger combat sounds entertaining, I'll pass... :lol:  Maybe I should train the Yellow Jackets as guard hornets... they could pass for Scat Pack Bees that lost weight!  :icon_smile_big:

BTW Danny, did you see the picture that I posted above... is the spacer the part you are talking about being taped together? ???

Allen
After 8 years of downsizing, whats left...
1968 Charger R/T, Automatic, 426 Hemi
1968 Polara 4Dr Sdn, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1968 Polara 4Dr HT, Automatic, 383
1969 Charger 500, 4 Speed, 440 Magnum
1969 Daytona, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1969 Road Runner, 4 Speed, 426 Hemi
1970 `Cuda, Automatic, 440-6BBL
1970 Challenger T/A, Automatic, 340 6 Pack
2004 Ram, Automatic, 5.7L Hemi
2009 Challenger SRT8, Automatic, 6.1L Hemi
<This Space Reserved for a 2016 Challenger SRT Hellcat, 8Sp Automatic,

69_500

To answer your question Allen, yes. The spacer that you have the arrow drawn to is the one that I'm talking about.

Magnumcharger

Ok...I have to ask....How did you get so skinny?

Inquiring minds want to know.
1968 Plymouth Barracuda Formula S 340 convertible
1968 Dodge Charger R/T 426 Hemi 4 speed
1968 Plymouth Barracuda S/S clone 426 Hemi auto
1969 Dodge Deora pickup clone 318 auto
1971 Dodge Charger R/T 440 auto
1972 Dodge C600 318 4 speed ramp truck
1972 Dodge C800 413 5 speed
1979 Chrysler 300 T-top 360 auto
2001 Dodge RAM Sport Offroad 360 auto
2010 Dodge Challenger R/T 6 speed
2014 RAM Laramie 5.7 Hemi 8 speed

notabird

allen, I saw your picture in Jerry Narramore's album.Jerry and his dad went to a NHOA meet in the early 80's .I think he took his 500 and broke the camshaft in the hemi on the way home.Brent

69_500

Thats a pretty good story that Jerry tells of his camshaft breaking, and then actually still driving the car home.

xs29j8Bullitt

Quote from: Magnumcharger on November 13, 2007, 12:25:16 AM
Ok...I have to ask....How did you get so skinny?

Inquiring minds want to know.

PhotoShop?  :shruggy:  :smilielol:

Skinny?!? ME?  :faint:  THANKS!  But I want to lose at least another 20 pounds!

Started a new thread about it in the Off Topic forum:

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,36148.0.html

Probably more than you wanted to know...

Allen 
After 8 years of downsizing, whats left...
1968 Charger R/T, Automatic, 426 Hemi
1968 Polara 4Dr Sdn, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1968 Polara 4Dr HT, Automatic, 383
1969 Charger 500, 4 Speed, 440 Magnum
1969 Daytona, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1969 Road Runner, 4 Speed, 426 Hemi
1970 `Cuda, Automatic, 440-6BBL
1970 Challenger T/A, Automatic, 340 6 Pack
2004 Ram, Automatic, 5.7L Hemi
2009 Challenger SRT8, Automatic, 6.1L Hemi
<This Space Reserved for a 2016 Challenger SRT Hellcat, 8Sp Automatic,

xs29j8Bullitt

Made some progress in the last several days in the dis-assembly of the Charger 500.  I have been taking a lot of pictures, especially of the C500 specific... I'm sure I will miss some things though...

I have been "bagging & tagging" small parts & attaching hardware to make re-assembly easier.  So far I have found little additional damage when removing parts, mostly B5 Blue painted metal under the trim...

I have a growing pile of parts behind the C500 that I will sort through after the car leaves for the paint shop...

Allen
After 8 years of downsizing, whats left...
1968 Charger R/T, Automatic, 426 Hemi
1968 Polara 4Dr Sdn, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1968 Polara 4Dr HT, Automatic, 383
1969 Charger 500, 4 Speed, 440 Magnum
1969 Daytona, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1969 Road Runner, 4 Speed, 426 Hemi
1970 `Cuda, Automatic, 440-6BBL
1970 Challenger T/A, Automatic, 340 6 Pack
2004 Ram, Automatic, 5.7L Hemi
2009 Challenger SRT8, Automatic, 6.1L Hemi
<This Space Reserved for a 2016 Challenger SRT Hellcat, 8Sp Automatic,

xs29j8Bullitt

I took the A-Pillar chrome moldings off today, stopping only to admire Creative Industries' craftsmanship... :eek2:  :brickwall:

Each was retained by 6 screws... 4 on the aft/outboard side (in door opening), and 2 on the ends of molding for the edge at the windshield gasket.  The center two tabs on the windshield gasket side did not have fasteners installed (the 2 locations pointed out in the picture below).

Allen
After 8 years of downsizing, whats left...
1968 Charger R/T, Automatic, 426 Hemi
1968 Polara 4Dr Sdn, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1968 Polara 4Dr HT, Automatic, 383
1969 Charger 500, 4 Speed, 440 Magnum
1969 Daytona, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1969 Road Runner, 4 Speed, 426 Hemi
1970 `Cuda, Automatic, 440-6BBL
1970 Challenger T/A, Automatic, 340 6 Pack
2004 Ram, Automatic, 5.7L Hemi
2009 Challenger SRT8, Automatic, 6.1L Hemi
<This Space Reserved for a 2016 Challenger SRT Hellcat, 8Sp Automatic,

hemi68charger

Allen, be REAL careful when installing those deflectors after she's painted.... The top edge is ever so close to the roof sheetmetal. It would be a shame to scratch the paint.......  Looks to be in great shape...........

Troy
Troy
'69 Charger Daytona 440 auto 4.10 Dana ( now 426 HEMI )
'70 Superbird 426 Hemi auto: Lindsley Bonneville Salt Flat world record holder (220.2mph)
Houston Mopar Club Connection

xs29j8Bullitt

Well, I made it as far as I could with the dis-assembly with the on-going battles with the #%&$!!! hornets.  I stopped work at dusk today, and the C500 is spending it's last night in the workshop for a while...

I talked to the owner of the paint & body shop today, and confirmed they will pick up the car tomorrow morning... :yesnod:

So here she is as the restoration is finally about to begin!  :2thumbs:

Allen
After 8 years of downsizing, whats left...
1968 Charger R/T, Automatic, 426 Hemi
1968 Polara 4Dr Sdn, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1968 Polara 4Dr HT, Automatic, 383
1969 Charger 500, 4 Speed, 440 Magnum
1969 Daytona, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1969 Road Runner, 4 Speed, 426 Hemi
1970 `Cuda, Automatic, 440-6BBL
1970 Challenger T/A, Automatic, 340 6 Pack
2004 Ram, Automatic, 5.7L Hemi
2009 Challenger SRT8, Automatic, 6.1L Hemi
<This Space Reserved for a 2016 Challenger SRT Hellcat, 8Sp Automatic,

xs29j8Bullitt

Quote from: hemi68charger on November 19, 2007, 09:32:28 PM
Allen, be REAL careful when installing those deflectors after she's painted.... The top edge is ever so close to the roof sheetmetal. It would be a shame to scratch the paint.......  Looks to be in great shape...........

Troy

Your'e right Troy... remind me in a year or so.  Putting 'em back on seems sooooo far away!  :P

Allen
After 8 years of downsizing, whats left...
1968 Charger R/T, Automatic, 426 Hemi
1968 Polara 4Dr Sdn, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1968 Polara 4Dr HT, Automatic, 383
1969 Charger 500, 4 Speed, 440 Magnum
1969 Daytona, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1969 Road Runner, 4 Speed, 426 Hemi
1970 `Cuda, Automatic, 440-6BBL
1970 Challenger T/A, Automatic, 340 6 Pack
2004 Ram, Automatic, 5.7L Hemi
2009 Challenger SRT8, Automatic, 6.1L Hemi
<This Space Reserved for a 2016 Challenger SRT Hellcat, 8Sp Automatic,

xs29j8Bullitt

Elvis has left the building!
XS  :cheers:
After 8 years of downsizing, whats left...
1968 Charger R/T, Automatic, 426 Hemi
1968 Polara 4Dr Sdn, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1968 Polara 4Dr HT, Automatic, 383
1969 Charger 500, 4 Speed, 440 Magnum
1969 Daytona, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1969 Road Runner, 4 Speed, 426 Hemi
1970 `Cuda, Automatic, 440-6BBL
1970 Challenger T/A, Automatic, 340 6 Pack
2004 Ram, Automatic, 5.7L Hemi
2009 Challenger SRT8, Automatic, 6.1L Hemi
<This Space Reserved for a 2016 Challenger SRT Hellcat, 8Sp Automatic,

moparstuart

Quote from: xs29j8Bullitt on November 20, 2007, 03:39:46 PM
Elvis has left the building!
XS  :cheers:
did you cry seeing it leave or shout for joy it's getting restored ?k
GO SELL CRAZY SOMEWHERE ELSE WE ARE ALL STOCKED UP HERE

69_500

I don't know how you guys do it. I don't know if I could send my car off somewhere to get it done. Then again I know that I'm not capable of doing all the work it needs so its a catch 22.

I hope it turns out excelent Allen. Will continue to follow its progress.

xs29j8Bullitt

Quote from: moparstuart on November 20, 2007, 05:55:14 PM
Quote from: xs29j8Bullitt on November 20, 2007, 03:39:46 PM
Elvis has left the building!
XS  :cheers:
did you cry seeing it leave or shout for joy it's getting restored ?k

Both really, but mostly relief that the restoration has officially begun a few days before the C500's 39th "birthday" of December 4th...

Like an over-protective mother hen, I have already called the paint shop to make sure the Charger 500 would not spend the night outside tonight.  With the back glass still in place, I was concerned about vandalism.  :P

By the time I called, someone had already "found" the C500 and wanted to buy it!  :eek2:  :eek2:  :eek2:

Lee, if you are reading this... IT IS NOT FOR SALE!

Allen
After 8 years of downsizing, whats left...
1968 Charger R/T, Automatic, 426 Hemi
1968 Polara 4Dr Sdn, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1968 Polara 4Dr HT, Automatic, 383
1969 Charger 500, 4 Speed, 440 Magnum
1969 Daytona, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1969 Road Runner, 4 Speed, 426 Hemi
1970 `Cuda, Automatic, 440-6BBL
1970 Challenger T/A, Automatic, 340 6 Pack
2004 Ram, Automatic, 5.7L Hemi
2009 Challenger SRT8, Automatic, 6.1L Hemi
<This Space Reserved for a 2016 Challenger SRT Hellcat, 8Sp Automatic,

The70RT

Good deal Allen. I'm sure yours will probably be done before mine is. Can't wait to see the B5 blue. It seems like a Charger can't set anywhere very long before the vultures spot it  :laugh:
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hemi68charger

Awesome Allen... It'll be GREAT and I can't wait to see it... Yours is getting there and mines about done.... By year's end, I'll have mine for sure and DONE !!!!! No thanks to Mr. Smitty.........

Troy
'69 Charger Daytona 440 auto 4.10 Dana ( now 426 HEMI )
'70 Superbird 426 Hemi auto: Lindsley Bonneville Salt Flat world record holder (220.2mph)
Houston Mopar Club Connection

69_500

Hey Allen, look on the bright side. A few people on here tried to talk ya out of it even before you sent it off to be fixed. So you can't blame Lee for wanting it now either.  :yesnod:

xs29j8Bullitt

Quote from: The70RT on November 20, 2007, 07:47:12 PM
Good deal Allen. I'm sure yours will probably be done before mine is. Can't wait to see the B5 blue. It seems like a Charger can't set anywhere very long before the vultures spot it  :laugh:

Nothing I ever do goes according to schedule... even this soon into the restoration I am about 5 weeks behind...

Having been a Mopar "vulture" myself (reformed now o'course...  :icon_smile_wink: ), I guess I shouldn't complain.  The ones that irritate me most are the guys that ask about "that old blue Dodge" and then give me some BS story about wanting it for a father/son project...

Allen
After 8 years of downsizing, whats left...
1968 Charger R/T, Automatic, 426 Hemi
1968 Polara 4Dr Sdn, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1968 Polara 4Dr HT, Automatic, 383
1969 Charger 500, 4 Speed, 440 Magnum
1969 Daytona, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1969 Road Runner, 4 Speed, 426 Hemi
1970 `Cuda, Automatic, 440-6BBL
1970 Challenger T/A, Automatic, 340 6 Pack
2004 Ram, Automatic, 5.7L Hemi
2009 Challenger SRT8, Automatic, 6.1L Hemi
<This Space Reserved for a 2016 Challenger SRT Hellcat, 8Sp Automatic,

xs29j8Bullitt

Quote from: hemi68charger on November 20, 2007, 08:18:51 PM
Awesome Allen... It'll be GREAT and I can't wait to see it... Yours is getting there and mines about done.... By year's end, I'll have mine for sure and DONE !!!!! No thanks to Mr. Smitty.........

Great to hear your Hemi Charger is coming along so well now!  :2thumbs:

My Charger is just in the starter's gate (get the "Charger" horse analogy... :icon_smile_wink: )...

Allen
After 8 years of downsizing, whats left...
1968 Charger R/T, Automatic, 426 Hemi
1968 Polara 4Dr Sdn, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1968 Polara 4Dr HT, Automatic, 383
1969 Charger 500, 4 Speed, 440 Magnum
1969 Daytona, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1969 Road Runner, 4 Speed, 426 Hemi
1970 `Cuda, Automatic, 440-6BBL
1970 Challenger T/A, Automatic, 340 6 Pack
2004 Ram, Automatic, 5.7L Hemi
2009 Challenger SRT8, Automatic, 6.1L Hemi
<This Space Reserved for a 2016 Challenger SRT Hellcat, 8Sp Automatic,

xs29j8Bullitt

Quote from: 69_500 on November 20, 2007, 08:40:41 PM
Hey Allen, look on the bright side. A few people on here tried to talk ya out of it even before you sent it off to be fixed. So you can't blame Lee for wanting it now either.  :yesnod:

You are right Danny...  Counting Lee, 7 folks have tried to relieve me of the C500 burden in the last 3 months (including 4 on this forum).

As I start to burn through money I may regret my answer... I spent $6471.45 on the Charger 500 today!  :faint:   NO, I am not re-considering!  :nana:

Allen
After 8 years of downsizing, whats left...
1968 Charger R/T, Automatic, 426 Hemi
1968 Polara 4Dr Sdn, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1968 Polara 4Dr HT, Automatic, 383
1969 Charger 500, 4 Speed, 440 Magnum
1969 Daytona, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1969 Road Runner, 4 Speed, 426 Hemi
1970 `Cuda, Automatic, 440-6BBL
1970 Challenger T/A, Automatic, 340 6 Pack
2004 Ram, Automatic, 5.7L Hemi
2009 Challenger SRT8, Automatic, 6.1L Hemi
<This Space Reserved for a 2016 Challenger SRT Hellcat, 8Sp Automatic,

bzabodyn

Congrats on getting the project rolling Allen! It'll be great to see that beautiful blue beast back on the road!

Actually, my hemi charger is going to be picked up tomorrow to have a prospective shop look the car over - if I decide I'm going to use them (American Classic Cars in Conroe - know anything about them?) they said they could start on it the first week of Dec... so we'll see... we might both be driving "new" cars around the same time!

BZ
1969 Dodge Charger R/T - 426 HEMI/4 speed/Track Pack

xs29j8Bullitt

Quote from: bzabodyn on November 20, 2007, 10:43:35 PM
Congrats on getting the project rolling Allen! It'll be great to see that beautiful blue beast back on the road!

Actually, my hemi charger is going to be picked up tomorrow to have a prospective shop look the car over - if I decide I'm going to use them (American Classic Cars in Conroe - know anything about them?) they said they could start on it the first week of Dec... so we'll see... we might both be driving "new" cars around the same time!

BZ

Thanks Brandon!  I have not heard of them, BUT be very careful in picking a restoration shop... especially one that does not mainly restore Mopars.  There are more restoration disasters than victories...  Even if the multi-make resto shop is a honest one, their lack of Mopar experience can lead to major problems down the road... What happened to the first shop that you were considering?

The shop I went with is a shop that does regular paint & body repairs as well as restoration "show" quality work.  I looked at several nice jobs that the shop had done before selecting them.  The owner is a Mopar fan and has several current Mopars, including a 1970 Charger R/T 440 car.  Still, there are no guarantees...

Again, BE CAREFUL... don't depend on promises of perfection... CHECK REFERENCES... MOPAR ONES!!!

Maybe, Troy H. or other Houston area members know that shop...

Allen
After 8 years of downsizing, whats left...
1968 Charger R/T, Automatic, 426 Hemi
1968 Polara 4Dr Sdn, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1968 Polara 4Dr HT, Automatic, 383
1969 Charger 500, 4 Speed, 440 Magnum
1969 Daytona, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1969 Road Runner, 4 Speed, 426 Hemi
1970 `Cuda, Automatic, 440-6BBL
1970 Challenger T/A, Automatic, 340 6 Pack
2004 Ram, Automatic, 5.7L Hemi
2009 Challenger SRT8, Automatic, 6.1L Hemi
<This Space Reserved for a 2016 Challenger SRT Hellcat, 8Sp Automatic,

69bronzeT5

Feature Editor for Mopar Connection Magazine
http://moparconnectionmagazine.com/



1969 Charger: T5 Copper 383 Automatic
1970 Challenger R/T: FC7 Plum Crazy 440 Automatic
1970 GTO: Black 400 Ram Air III 4-Speed
1971 Charger Super Bee: GY3 Citron Yella 440 4-Speed
1972 Charger: FE5 Red 360 Automatic
1973 Charger Rallye: FY1 Top Banana 440 Automatic
1973 Plymouth Road Runner: FE5 Red 440 Automatic
1973 Plymouth Duster: FC7 Plum Crazy 318 Automatic

moparstuart

Quote from: xs29j8Bullitt on November 20, 2007, 09:15:46 PM
Quote from: 69_500 on November 20, 2007, 08:40:41 PM
Hey Allen, look on the bright side. A few people on here tried to talk ya out of it even before you sent it off to be fixed. So you can't blame Lee for wanting it now either.  :yesnod:

You are right Danny...  Counting Lee, 7 folks have tried to relieve me of the C500 burden in the last 3 months (including 4 on this forum).

As I start to burn through money I may regret my answer... I spent $6471.45 on the Charger 500 today!  :faint:   NO, I am not re-considering!  :nana:

Allen
hey allen  wanna sell your charger 500  ( sorry couldnt resist)  add one more
GO SELL CRAZY SOMEWHERE ELSE WE ARE ALL STOCKED UP HERE