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« Reply #1 on: December 23, 2007, 10:55:49 PM » |
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« Reply #2 on: December 26, 2007, 06:32:20 PM » |
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A couple years ago when I did my grill,before the introduction of repo grill's,let alone the anodized trim and I piece,I did my grill and put it to the side to be ready for when my car is done.As you will find in a buried thread on grills,my post,I found an NOS center section and used that ,as Bull is showing you now ,for the correct color.I had friends over at PPG do a scan on it to get a starting point formula,and after about a dozen or so times retinting and doing spray-outs,I finally nailed it!!!I made it in laquer as original,and then got the black right on also,which was was alot easier.My trim was all mint,just needed to be reanodized,Specialties Bill did the work,my headlight buckets were also very good,and the center,well, was NOS.Even though it was NOS,it had your typical minor scuffs so needed to repaint anyway.
I was being very picky when it came to the grill as that is the first thing people look at when they walk up to your car.If you do not have the resources or equipment or patience to do what I have gone through,then the vendors that sell the "grill silver paint" is your alternative.And that is fine,but after seeing bulls NOS grill post,and my endeavor vs. the reoccuring posts about this topic,you get the idea of what the color should look like.
As far as the vendors selling the "grill silver" and those of you who use it,now you have hundreds of Chargers out there with silver being the norm of color on the grill,and as previously posted about colors,I have seen people say wheel argent is what to use.If I did not go thru what I did,I probably would have used wheel argent because it looks closer to the original than silver.
BTW,the first formula that came out from my NOS grill proffit was called "ash gray poly".On another note,I went thru the same thing with my B7 interior when getting the correct color,gloss,and texture paint for my dash frame.,and yes it is in the 69 Dodge paint chart in the PPG paint chip books under interior colors,but the formula they have listed does not come up with metalflake init,which originally does .So again trial and error,and got it.
Here are some pics of my grill to reference with bulls pics........
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« Reply #4 on: December 26, 2007, 08:25:38 PM » |
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It may be just my eyes, but that 68 grille no longer looks NOS to me. It looks like it has seen atleast some use.
One of my pet peeves is the tendancy many guys have to call OEM parts "NOS" even when they were clearly used.
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« Reply #5 on: December 26, 2007, 08:57:08 PM » |
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It may be just my eyes, but that 68 grille no longer looks NOS to me. It looks like it has seen atleast some use.
One of my pet peeves is the tendancy many guys have to call OEM parts "NOS" even when they were clearly used.
NOS doesnt mean protected by a force feild. some people think NOS means perfect but it most often doesnt  |
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« Reply #6 on: December 27, 2007, 01:06:30 PM » |
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Thanks Bull..
That is truely nice.. It'll give me better information when I redo my '68's grille.. The hardest part is going to get all the leading edge vertical bars silver while keeping the sides and back black......
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« Reply #7 on: December 27, 2007, 01:57:41 PM » |
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Thanks Bull..
That is truely nice.. It'll give me better information when I redo my '68's grille.. The hardest part is going to get all the leading edge vertical bars silver while keeping the sides and back black......
A little birdy once told me to use a hard roller for the fins - no masking necessary.  Troy |
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« Reply #8 on: December 27, 2007, 02:00:28 PM » |
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It may be just my eyes, but that 68 grille no longer looks NOS to me. It looks like it has seen atleast some use.
One of my pet peeves is the tendancy many guys have to call OEM parts "NOS" even when they were clearly used.
NOS doesnt mean protected by a force feild. some people think NOS means perfect but it most often doesnt Forty years of shelf wear can do that. (that isn't sarcasm btw) |
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« Reply #9 on: December 27, 2007, 03:17:52 PM » |
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NOS Means "New Old Stock", not "once was new and installed, now removed and being resold". Once the part is installed on a car, it is no longer NOS.
It could be shelf wear, but it looks slightly windburned.
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« Reply #10 on: December 27, 2007, 07:21:42 PM » |
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Thanks Bull..
That is truely nice.. It'll give me better information when I redo my '68's grille.. The hardest part is going to get all the leading edge vertical bars silver while keeping the sides and back black......
A little birdy once told me to use a hard roller for the fins - no masking necessary. Troy Another little birdy (aka 8WHEELER) said to use a silver, sharp-edged paint pen. |
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« Reply #11 on: December 27, 2007, 07:23:52 PM » |
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NOS Means "New Old Stock", not "once was new and installed, now removed and being resold". Once the part is installed on a car, it is no longer NOS.
It could be shelf wear, but it looks slightly windburned.
True. "Once was new and installed, now removed and being resold" would not be NOS, it would be OWNAINRABR.  |
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« Reply #12 on: December 28, 2007, 09:38:20 AM » |
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Thanks Bull..
That is truely nice.. It'll give me better information when I redo my '68's grille.. The hardest part is going to get all the leading edge vertical bars silver while keeping the sides and back black......
A little birdy once told me to use a hard roller for the fins - no masking necessary. Troy Another little birdy (aka 8WHEELER) said to use a silver, sharp-edged paint pen. But that doesn't work if you've custom mixed the rest of the paint so that it isn't so silvery.  Troy |
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« Reply #13 on: December 28, 2007, 11:09:25 AM » |
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Thanks Bull..
That is truely nice.. It'll give me better information when I redo my '68's grille.. The hardest part is going to get all the leading edge vertical bars silver while keeping the sides and back black......
A little birdy once told me to use a hard roller for the fins - no masking necessary. Troy Another little birdy (aka 8WHEELER) said to use a silver, sharp-edged paint pen. But that doesn't work if you've custom mixed the rest of the paint so that it isn't so silvery. Troy I had a professional sign painter do mine with the paint I mixed. He only charged 75.00 do to all the bars on the grille, lids and bezals.I followed him up by spraying the big areas. |
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« Reply #14 on: December 28, 2007, 02:55:02 PM » |
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what's the correct black paint on there?
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« Reply #15 on: December 28, 2007, 05:28:31 PM » |
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Thanks Bull..
That is truly nice.. It'll give me better information when I redo my '68's grille.. The hardest part is going to get all the leading edge vertical bars silver while keeping the sides and back black......
A little birdy once told me to use a hard roller for the fins - no masking necessary. Troy Doing mine real soon, any chance we can get a little more info or pictures of that process? That would be a huge time saver. |
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« Reply #16 on: December 28, 2007, 05:29:16 PM » |
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that's a nice looking grille you have there 1hot68
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« Reply #17 on: December 28, 2007, 06:04:31 PM » |
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that's a nice looking grille you have there 1hot68
Thank you Sir!!!! |
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« Reply #18 on: December 29, 2007, 12:17:34 PM » |
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that's a nice looking grille you have there 1hot68
And the whole car around it!!!!!!Looks awesome!!!!!! If I ever do another charger,it will be a 68 triple black!! It took alot of self control to not change my 69 R/T,B5 ,white top,white stripe to triple black!!! |
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« Reply #19 on: December 29, 2007, 01:20:41 PM » |
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Thanks Bull..
That is truely nice.. It'll give me better information when I redo my '68's grille.. The hardest part is going to get all the leading edge vertical bars silver while keeping the sides and back black......
A little birdy once told me to use a hard roller for the fins - no masking necessary. Troy Another little birdy (aka 8WHEELER) said to use a silver, sharp-edged paint pen. But that doesn't work if you've custom mixed the rest of the paint so that it isn't so silvery. Troy But it will probably work if you didn't. |
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