Set the thermostat at 60 and put your sweats on

[bull]

http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/energy/2005-10-12-winter-heating_x.htm?csp=24

Another forecast predicts painful winter heating bills

WASHINGTON (AP) â€" The government has scaled back its forecast of the increase in winter heating bills, but the tab is still expected to rise almost 50% for natural gas users and around 30% for heating oil over last winter, the Energy Information Administration said Wednesday.
The EIA said natural gas users can expect to pay an average of $350 more this winter compared with last year, an increase of 48%. Those who heat their homes with fuel oil will pay $378 more, or 32% more.

[CB]

here in our country, people can get a low intrest loan to pay off for the winter 2005 oil supply
Go figure

[Telvis]

I guess I need to invest in some thick socks and sweatshirts. It's gonna be along winter.

[bull]

Yea, so much for the ad campaigns where they once touted 'cheap natural gas' as an alternative to oil. Oh well, it's only money. Too bad I don't have much of it to spare.

[694spdRT]

Yea, so much for the ad campaigns where they once touted 'cheap natural gas' as an alternative to oil. Oh well, it's only money. Too bad I don't have much of it to spare.

I often wondered what would happen with the price once most the natural gas lines were in and people were switched over and commited. I have a 1000 gallon LP tank as they don't offer natural gas out here in the sticks. I fill it up in June or July as it is usually at it's lowest and it will get me through the entire winter.

A lot of people are switching over the those outdoor wood furnaces in my area where they are allowed. The cost on those is usually $5,000 and up. I am not sure how the savings pencils out in the long run with them yet. 

[Ponch ®]

Set the thermostat at 60 and put your sweats on

I dont know why anyone would want to run their A/C so cold...


oh i forgot...youre talking about heating the house to 60. In the meantime, y'all can keep making fun of us Californians all you want...

[blackcharger]

Yea, so much for the ad campaigns where they once touted 'cheap natural gas' as an alternative to oil. Oh well, it's only money. Too bad I don't have much of it to spare.

only 8 months 'till spring.

[Vainglory, Esq.]

Set the thermostat at 60 and put your sweats on

I dont know why anyone would want to run their A/C so cold...


oh i forgot...youre talking about heating the house to 60. In the meantime, y'all can keep making fun of us Californians all you want...

Man, I don't have either one.  A/C, heat, who needs it here?

[HeavyFuel]

Set the thermostat at 60 and put your sweats on

I dont know why anyone would want to run their A/C so cold...


oh i forgot...youre talking about heating the house to 60. In the meantime, y'all can keep making fun of us Californians all you want...

Man, I don't have either one.   A/C, heat, who needs it here?

Vain, you don't have A/c or heat?  Where to you live that the outside temp is that stable in the comfort zone?  Here in NoDak, we get hit pretty hard with both, with temps in the 80's-100's most of the summer, and below zero for most of the winter.

[BigBlackDodge]

Not to worry follks!

Global warming will kick in any minute now..........*taps wristwatch*...................


BBD

[NHCharger]

Hey Bull, is this another example of "trickle down economics"? I've got 2+ cord of firewood and trying to get one more. I'm also going to put a plenum over my woodstove in the basement and run ductwork to the rooms on the first floor to help distribute the heat better.

[Vainglory, Esq.]

Set the thermostat at 60 and put your sweats on

I dont know why anyone would want to run their A/C so cold...


oh i forgot...youre talking about heating the house to 60. In the meantime, y'all can keep making fun of us Californians all you want...

Man, I don't have either one.   A/C, heat, who needs it here?

Vain, you don't have A/c or heat?   Where to you live that the outside temp is that stable in the comfort zone?   Here in NoDak, we get hit pretty hard with both, with temps in the 80's-100's most of the summer, and below zero for most of the winter.

Los Angeles.

[bull]

There's plenty of heat in CA until the brush fires go out. Then you have to worry about the whole state breaking off the continent and falling into the ocean.

[Ponch ®]

There's plenty of heat in CA until the brush fires go out. Then you have to worry about the whole state breaking off the continent and falling into the ocean.

but i bet you aint got Porn Star Karaoke in your neck of the woods.

[bull]

There's plenty of heat in CA until the brush fires go out. Then you have to worry about the whole state breaking off the continent and falling into the ocean.

but i bet you aint got Porn Star Karaoke in your neck of the woods.

Not sure what that is, but I do know that Portland, Oregon has the most porn-related businesses per capita in the US.

[Lowprofile]

We have a wood burning stove that heats the whole house just fine. A extra blanket at night, and you're all set.

[derailed]

We have a wood burning stove that heats the whole house just fine. A extra blanket at night, and you're all set.

There great if you have access to cheap wood but thats gone through the roof here to, last winter i saw a guy getting $380 a full cord not delivered. Those outdoor wood furnaces are worth it, you can burn almost anything in them. A friend of mine told me about a pellet stove that you can also burn pee coal and corn pellets in which looks interesting.

[4402tuff4u]

I wish I had room to install a wood stove. My uncle heats his whole house with wood and you will be walking around in a t-shirt. It gets pretty hot and lasts through the night with no problem. It's going to cost me approx. $ 1,900 to heat my house this year. 

[472 R/T SE]

Our county has it's own Co Gen Plant to help(suppose) with .  The problem is the price of natural gas to help run it.  Our gas prices were up like 78% last effing year already.   We're getting stroked again this winter in Clark County bull    I just as soon be cold and put a few more layers on versus being hot and running around half naked to stay cool. 

We'll be doing the sweats, gloves and thermal underwear thing this year.  I'll engoy working on your grill this winter bull cause it will prolly be warmer in the garage since I run the LP heat out there.

[bull]

Our county has it's own Co Gen Plant to help(suppose) with .   The problem is the price of natural gas to help run it.   Our gas prices were up like 78% last effing year already.     We're getting stroked again this winter in Clark County bull     I just as soon be cold and put a few more layers on versus being hot and running around half naked to stay cool.  

We'll be doing the sweats, gloves and thermal underwear thing this year.   I'll engoy working on your grill this winter bull cause it will prolly be warmer in the garage since I run the LP heat out there.

Don't get too close. I warped one headlight door on my '70 back when I was 15 because I pushed the car up too close to the wood stove in my dad's shop to work on it.

[RECHRGD]

Two wood stoves in the house and one in the shop (to keep RECHRGD warm).  45 acres of woods, three chain saws. one 8 ton splitter.  My heating bill may go up about $5.00 this year due to the added cost of gas for the saws and splitter, but I'll live with it.  As long as I have the energy to get the wood in every year I'm fine.  If not. we turn on the electric heat and then start paying.   Bob

[2fast4u]

Don't need gas.....I've got a fireplace and use small electric heaters for those windy nights that bring the temp down below zero!


no gas bill for me......

[RD]

paid $378 to fill my propane tank on Oct. 1st.  Sealing up the windows and doors is my next project.  Thinking about buying a woodstove, but then thought damn, I havent cut any firewood at all this year, so that one is out.  Hopefully we will not get any terrible ice storms like we did last winter.

[Lowprofile]

We usually burn about two chords of wood per winter. The going rate is about $325 per chord. [ Northern Idaho ]  We are thinking about installing solar panels on the barn roof, using the power collected to heat water, and provide electricity for the barn and out-buildings. Every little bit helps.   

[CaptMarvel]

  I'll be burning my wood stove to keep warm here in the mountains of the golden state. I've got lots of trees on my property & plenty of sharp chains, & the right "persuasion" to reprove any nosy environmentalist who comes on my land.  The govt. can take my right to burn away from me when it prys the embers from my cold, dead stove....

[2fast4u]

  What exactly is a "chord" of wood....first time I've heard that!   Now I buy what most people around here call a "rick" of firewood and the fella I buy it from brings a heapin' pickup(longbed) load and fills up our front porch....and that costs us $80.00.  Lasts us for about 2 months depending on how cold it gets outside!

2fast

[Khyron]

Want Cheap heat?

[RECHRGD]

What exactly is a "chord" of wood....first time I've heard that! Now I buy what most people around here call a "rick" of firewood and the fella I buy it from brings a heapin' pickup(longbed) load and fills up our front porch....and that costs us $80.00. Lasts us for about 2 months depending on how cold it gets outside!

2fast

A cord of wood is a 4'X4'X8' stack of burnable logs. Or 128 sq. ft. of logs. Bob

[SirNik73]

wood is the way to go. when i was a kid thats all we had. my dad built a huge woodstove in our living room and put a second smaller one in the the rec room at the other end of the house. normaly with just the one in the living room the house stayed warm. but on the cold night we could start the second one. when i was about 15 my parents split up and it was just me and my dad. when i was in high school i took up living in the rec room because it was next to the front door and i could get in and out of the house with out waking my dad. my dad would leave for months at a time for busseness trips in Mexico and i would just live in the rec room with the doors closed running that one wood stove. i had a lotta fun in that house. always party going on! and i miss the hell outta that wood stove, i could make the room like 80-90 degrees when it was flooding outside! o yeah, my dad works for Calpine (Geothermal Power Producer in Northern California) that are always cutting down trees in order to drill for steam. every fall we cut wood up there for free! it was a hell of a lotta work, but it made for a nice winter.