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Author Topic: is there a FULL VIN# somewhere stamped on a 2nd gen Charger please?  (Read 683 times)
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« on: August 23, 2008, 09:23:05 AM »

The car inspection refused to register my Charger because they couldn't find a full VIN# on the car (frame).
The vin tag on the dashboard is not enough, the fender tag is also not enough...

So is there a full (XP29H9Bxxxxxx ) number on a Charger stamped somewhere? I noticed numbers on the radiator support but that's not the complete VIN#.

If not, I am forced to pay a towing to a licenced homologation company + homologation + a new inspection.

I already throw away 150 bucks for nothing  flame
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« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2008, 09:47:34 AM »

The only FULL Vehicle Identification Number on the body of you're Charger should be the dash plate.
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« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2008, 09:50:24 AM »

Wow.  Sounds like they are being a bunch of real A-holes.  Even if you have the title that has the VIN, they won't inspect it?  You should also tell them that there are supposed "hidden" partial VINs on the car but unless they want to take the entire car apart, they will never see them with the car assembled.
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« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2008, 10:20:34 AM »

what did they do on the cuda when you got it? unless it had a fender tag and this one doesn;t?? all of them only have the partial VIN on them. man i can't imagine what they would do if you brought a 68 over, and the VIN doesn't match the rad support at all. talk about a mess
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« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2008, 10:27:31 AM »

talk about a mess....indeed... icon_smile_dissapprove
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« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2008, 10:28:58 AM »

no full vin  stamped on the body 
    only the last six numbers   of the vin on the  core( radiator) support  &  under the trunk rubber weather strip ..on the drivers side about half way down  yesnod  ...... what about the vin on the motor & trans ..if yours is a early 69 car ...ie built in late 68 it will have the full vin on the transmission & motor ,  but  the later 69 cars part vin should still be ok .. ......... what  a bout the broadcast sheet ... show  these guys that & match the fender tag , vin plate   body numbers  up with that  ... popcrn
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« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2008, 11:39:09 AM »

On 3rd gens there is an extra tag hidden down the rear package tray, far driver side rear corner... but still a plate, not on sheetmetal
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« Reply #7 on: August 23, 2008, 02:10:30 PM »

If you were to buy a metal stamp kit and place it somewhere yourself, what are the chances of them knowing its not factory?
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« Reply #8 on: August 23, 2008, 02:33:41 PM »

If you were to buy a metal stamp kit and place it somewhere yourself, what are the chances of them knowing its not factory?

Considering they dont know that there isnt a VIN and dont know where to look for this supposed full VIN, I would say they wouldnt have a clue.
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« Reply #9 on: August 23, 2008, 05:40:41 PM »

Have you ever thought about moving to North America?
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« Reply #10 on: August 23, 2008, 06:07:09 PM »

Have you ever thought about moving to North America?

In a mater of fact, yes, many times, but your government uses one of the hardest immigration policy in the world.  Undecided
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« Reply #11 on: August 23, 2008, 06:43:16 PM »

The only thing required for a vehicle built prior to 1981 in my state is a Bill Of Sale  nana
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« Reply #12 on: August 23, 2008, 07:54:51 PM »

Would engine or trans suffice?  Most times there is a full VIN stamped there if its #'s matching
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« Reply #13 on: August 23, 2008, 09:30:14 PM »

Have you ever thought about moving to North America?

In a mater of fact, yes, many times, but your government uses one of the hardest immigration policy in the world.  Undecided

C'mon, people are moving here every day in droves!   Grin
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« Reply #14 on: August 23, 2008, 09:34:00 PM »

all you have to do is move to mexico first, then jump a damn fence or swim through a river   brickwall
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« Reply #15 on: August 23, 2008, 09:50:44 PM »

Here in Michigan I just needed a Cop to look at my Vin in Windsheild. When I showed him the Vin on fender tag & core support he said it was not necessary & then seemed surprise they were there & I knew what each letter meant Roll Eyes   LEON
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« Reply #16 on: August 24, 2008, 02:53:44 AM »

Would engine or trans suffice?  Most times there is a full VIN stamped there if its #'s matching

the numbers need to be stamped on the frame so it can't be replaced easily.
it is a #'s matching car but they don't give a damn.
I read about this common issue that the owner should write to the appropriate authorities to obtain the permission to get it stamped in.
you got to send in all the papers like the title, broadcastsheet, bill of sale, etc and they will 'get back to you'...
yes you guessed it ..., it can take up to 8 weeks if you are an unlucky person  brickwall

I allready lost half of my 2 week vacation hunting down the electrical bug in my Charger and get it licenced
I am afraid cruising season is over for me Cry
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« Reply #17 on: August 24, 2008, 05:23:02 AM »

Have you ever thought about moving to North America?

In a mater of fact, yes, many times, but your government uses one of the hardest immigration policy in the world.  Undecided

really  scratchchin  smilielol
maybe move to friggn mexico first . then you should be able to walk right in with no problem .

as for the VIN# what more do they want ?  shruggy the FULL VIN is on the dash plate hense VIN TAG . i wonder if they think there should be more #s because new cars have 16-18 digits insted of the 13 or so from the old days  shruggy
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« Reply #18 on: August 24, 2008, 05:31:22 AM »

Would engine or trans suffice?  Most times there is a full VIN stamped there if its #'s matching

the numbers need to be stamped on the frame so it can't be replaced easily.
it is a #'s matching car but they don't give a damn.
I read about this common issue that the owner should write to the appropriate authorities to obtain the permission to get it stamped in.
you got to send in all the papers like the title, broadcastsheet, bill of sale, etc and they will 'get back to you'...
yes you guessed it ..., it can take up to 8 weeks if you are an unlucky person  brickwall

I allready lost half of my 2 week vacation hunting down the electrical bug in my Charger and get it licenced
I am afraid cruising seison is over for me Cry

how can the #s be stamped on the frame ? when there is no frame . i really dont understand what these guys want . being a UNIBODY car i would think the #s stamped elsewhere on the car should surfice .
isnt there any other inspection place you can take the CHARGER to ? say like guys that dont have  thier heads up thier ass .
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« Reply #19 on: August 24, 2008, 07:02:41 AM »

I wonder what those guys (those inspectors) think they are there for? To get cars licensed or to find whatever reason thinkable not get them licensed!

My car needed the VIN stamped into the frame aswell before registering my car (in Germany that is) and it had to be on the passenger's side.

I did it myself, borrowed the tools for it and the inspector was happy. Why should you need to get the permission to get it stamped in? Just do it. There can't be a law saying you're not allowed to stamp the VIN into your car! I've seen VINs cauterised (is that the right word? using acid to write the letters and numbers 'into' the glass) into all the windows of a car. That's not illegal I guess?

If you stamped the VIN in to the frame now and told the inspector you coincidentally found that VIN and think some previous owner did that back in the states, what could he say? And what yould be the difference between the VIN that was stamped in with permission and the one without?

Stories like these make me mad!

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« Reply #20 on: August 24, 2008, 08:26:48 AM »

I wonder if that is the reason newer cars have the vins everywhere, dash plates, door pillars, etc....

sorry for your troubles, hope it gets sorted quickly.   

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« Reply #21 on: August 24, 2008, 09:23:36 AM »

Man, that's really lame. rotz Hope it works out well for you.





Oh & just practice saying "no habla engleese", they'll let you right in AND give you lots of free stuff to reward you for your efforts. smilielol rotz
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« Reply #22 on: August 24, 2008, 01:28:33 PM »

now I'm wondering... how it was with your earliers mopars ?
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« Reply #23 on: August 24, 2008, 01:42:40 PM »

now I'm wondering... how it was with your earliers mopars ?

NEVER had troubles with them, always inspected with my old plates
(all got registred without having a stamped vin#: '70 Chrysler 300, '72 Charger, '69 Charger, '72 Barracuda and also my other cars : '70 Ranchero GT and '64 Impala)  shruggy
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« Reply #24 on: August 24, 2008, 02:08:06 PM »

Same thing here in Sweden, but cars older than 69(68 and back) dont need it. Every Charger i had(never own a 68) i had to have it stamped on the pass framerail, you have to have it heated like hell to stamp it(and it have to be right size on the numbers to). Just idiotic rules that the EU have made up... RantExplode Hope it works out for you.
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« Reply #25 on: August 24, 2008, 02:15:55 PM »

Have you ever thought about moving to North America?

In a mater of fact, yes, many times, but your government uses one of the hardest immigration policy in the world.  Undecided



Just come through are southern border. Believe me, nobodys watching. rotz 

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« Reply #26 on: August 24, 2008, 02:30:50 PM »

Same thing here in Sweden, but cars older than 69(68 and back) dont need it. Every Charger i had(never own a 68) i had to have it stamped on the pass framerail, you have to have it heated like hell to stamp it(and it have to be right size on the numbers to). Just idiotic rules that the EU have made up... RantExplode Hope it works out for you.

You're right I found something saying cars first registered till 09-30-1969 wouldn't need the stamped VIN. Looks like my inspector was an idiot, too! He even made me install a towing eye that wasn't mandatory until the late seventies...

I would bet these rules would be valid all over the EU, as I said Christian, if I were you, I would just stamp that VIN in myself and/or maybe look for another inspector.
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« Reply #27 on: August 24, 2008, 02:42:43 PM »

Personally, I would tell them, there's the VIN, that's all you get, now what's the problem?
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« Reply #28 on: August 24, 2008, 02:50:28 PM »

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I cannot believe the problems you are having just to get a car inspected. Surley these guys are not your friends, or is it that your country is trying to keep these cars from entering?

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« Reply #29 on: August 24, 2008, 03:15:36 PM »

I am going over to the station tomorrow and have a talk with the man in charge.
I'll bring my broadcast sheet, pics of the #'s engine, custom papers of the USA and the Netherlands where the car arrived, invoice of the car, ect and try to explane that Chargers never had a full VIN# stamped on the car.
I hope he's in a good mood and allow me to bring over the Charger.

Keep your fingers crossed for me will ya?
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« Reply #30 on: August 24, 2008, 08:50:02 PM »

You just need a different Inspector. Another one of those ask 5 different Inspectors get 5 different answers type of thing. Good Luck. LEON.
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