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Update on #88 Daytona that was found...

Started by CornDogsCharger, February 07, 2009, 07:40:08 PM

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CornDogsCharger

I was wondering if anyone had an update on the Dodge Charger Nascar that was found recently?  This is the other #88 Daytona that actually broke the 200mph speed limit and was driven by Baker.  For the longest time the car that sits at the Talladega Museum was thought to be the one that broke the record.  I'd love to see more recent photos of the car.

For anyone that is lost in the dark about this car.... here is the story http://aerowarriors.com/88daytona.html

Justin
"CornDog"

1966 Dodge Charger
1969 Dodge Charger (DMCL Project)
1969 Dodge Charger (WB General Lee "GL#004")
1969 Dodge Super Bee

nascarxx29

Thats Greg Kiatowskis car .Not sure what stage of the resto the car is at .Its being a while .And I even had asked about any development on this car .And nothing was updated i know of or heard since this old post




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     Status of the rarest daytona #88 research
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We know Greg K aquired this one off experimental test vehicle from racer Don White.What stage is this car at know .I only recall seeing wanted ads for certain parts for its resto in wingcar newsletters.Is it a finished car ..Wouldnt mind seeing that wingcar at the upcoming carlisle wing car diisplay 


1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

69bronzeT5

That car was in Mopar Muscle back in 2001.
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http://moparconnectionmagazine.com/



1969 Charger: T5 Copper 383 Automatic
1970 Challenger R/T: FC7 Plum Crazy 440 Automatic
1970 GTO: Black 400 Ram Air III 4-Speed
1971 Charger Super Bee: GY3 Citron Yella 440 4-Speed
1972 Charger: FE5 Red 360 Automatic
1973 Charger Rallye: FY1 Top Banana 440 Automatic
1973 Plymouth Road Runner: FE5 Red 440 Automatic
1973 Plymouth Duster: FC7 Plum Crazy 318 Automatic

tan top

been wondering also how the resto is progressing  :popcrn:
Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

Charger Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,86777.0.html
Chargers in the background where you least expect them 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,97261.0.html
C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.925.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

Aero426

Greg is currently working on the car in the Detroit area and there is progress being made.     

tan top

Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

Charger Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,86777.0.html
Chargers in the background where you least expect them 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,97261.0.html
C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.925.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

superbirdtom

How on earth do these cars keep popping up? :o

flash

Anyone have photos of the #88 Daytona racecar found behind someone's
shop a couple years ago? What was left of it? And any history of the car
after it was sold and how it ended up sitting back there?
Is it being restored to as raced condition?
Email turbo29@enter.net

Ghoste

The car currently belongs to Greg Kwiatkowski who is restoring it.  There are pics of it in the as found condition, I believe Mopar Collectors Guide ran a featue on it?
The car went from Chrysler to Don White and that is whose shop it ended up sitting behind.  When Don was finished racing it, he just parked it behind his shop like any other old race car.  It sat there until Greg found it and as far as I know, "race condition" is the way he is restoring it.

nitrometal

Hey Flash,  If anyone e-mails you directly would you please forward it on to me?  I'd love to see that info also.

Thanks,
Phil
phil@bio.tamu.edu
I love the smell of nitro in the morning.

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Ghoste


nitrometal

I love the smell of nitro in the morning.

http://pettysuperbird.com

flash

Thanks Ghoste.

Anyone know how the resto. coming?

How about posting a few photos?


Ghoste

Someone on the site was talking to Greg recently and had an update but I can't recall who it was.

Aero426

The car is being restored to the way it was on March 24th 1970, including the correct suspension, vehicle attitude, tires, and engine specs.   

nascarxx29

I seen this on the other wingcars sights and found it on here .The story dates to 2002 . Wonder what progress on this rare 1st daytona has undergone  :Twocents:

http://www.moparmusclemagazine.com/featuredvehicles/b_body/mopp_0201_1969_dodge_daytona/index.html
1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

Aero426

There are at least two other recent threads asking about the #88 car.   Maybe the three could be merged into one.

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,56043.msg623958/topicseen.html#msg623958

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,53454.0.html

The car is coming along nicely, but Greg has taken a short break over the winter. 

hemigeno

Quote from: Aero426 on March 02, 2010, 01:21:53 PM
There are at least two other recent threads asking about the #88 car.   Maybe the three could be merged into one.



Good idea...  *done*

:2thumbs:

Magnumcharger

Any update on this vehicle?
Inquiring minds want to know. :icon_smile_big:
1968 Plymouth Barracuda Formula S 340 convertible
1968 Dodge Charger R/T 426 Hemi 4 speed
1968 Plymouth Barracuda S/S clone 426 Hemi auto
1969 Dodge Deora pickup clone 318 auto
1971 Dodge Charger R/T 440 auto
1972 Dodge C600 318 4 speed ramp truck
1972 Dodge C800 413 5 speed
1979 Chrysler 300 T-top 360 auto
2001 Dodge RAM Sport Offroad 360 auto
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Aero426

Quote from: Magnumcharger on March 02, 2010, 05:07:43 PM
Any update on this vehicle?
Inquiring minds want to know. :icon_smile_big:

Security is very tight at the Woodward Garage.   The car is coming along nicely, but Greg has taken a break over the winter.   I am sure he will want to get back to it quickly.   The moment in time the car is being restored is as it was on the record run.   This means undoing some later modifications performed to it and sourcing some parts made of unobtanium.     I don't know when the car will be done, but there is light at the end of the tunnel.

tan top

Quote from: Aero426 on March 02, 2010, 05:22:05 PM
Quote from: Magnumcharger on March 02, 2010, 05:07:43 PM
Any update on this vehicle?
Inquiring minds want to know. :icon_smile_big:

Security is very tight at the Woodward Garage.   The car is coming along nicely, but Greg has taken a break over the winter.   I am sure he will want to get back to it quickly.   The moment in time the car is being restored is as it was on the record run.   This means undoing some later modifications performed to it and sourcing some parts made of unobtanium.     I don't know when the car will be done, but there is light at the end of the tunnel.

cool sounds some good stuff going on  :coolgleamA: thanks for the update ! cant wait to see pictures !! wonder what going to happen to the 71/88 daytona ??
Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

Charger Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,86777.0.html
Chargers in the background where you least expect them 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,97261.0.html
C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.925.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

DC_1

One of those great stories you love to read about.

71-500

Quote from: Aero426 on March 02, 2010, 05:22:05 PM
Security is very tight at the Woodward Garage.   The car is coming along nicely, but Greg has taken a break over the winter.   I am sure he will want to get back to it quickly.   The moment in time the car is being restored is as it was on the record run.   This means undoing some later modifications performed to it and sourcing some parts made of unobtanium.     I don't know when the car will be done, but there is light at the end of the tunnel.

Very cool.   :2thumbs:

I've got the magazine issue those shots appeared in, along with other research material I collected to build a plastic model of that car. I've got all the parts I think I need and most of the decals it wore, but need to find some of the smaller markings.

Wasn't there some sort of special insulation on the floor and firewall, that other race-spec cars didn't have?

It'd also be neat if Greg managed to find some of the vintage data recorder equipment Chrysler supposedly had mounted in the trunk.

Aero426

Quote from: 71-500 on March 02, 2010, 09:26:41 PM
Wasn't there some sort of special insulation on the floor and firewall, that other race-spec cars didn't have?

It'd also be neat if Greg managed to find some of the vintage data recorder equipment Chrysler supposedly had mounted in the trunk.

Yes there was some special foam type material they got from NASA.   Bill Wright who came from the Huntsville based Chrysler rocket program got the stuff to try out.

The data recorder is a Lockheed 417 with the offset mounted reels.    Two units will be required, one for the trunk and a second to cannibalize for the dashboard push buttons, unless he can find the remote unit.     The stuff has gotta be out there, as they were used for different applications.  

nascarxx29

The number on this car is DC-93. It has no VIN on the dash, like a stock vehicle. It has DC-93 under the dashboard, which is the number noted NASCAR builder Ray Nichols of Highland, Indiana, assigned the car when it was built. The Chrysler guys called it "093" and vintage photos show this. The car has no title because it was strictly a race car. Don's close connection with Ray, whom he drove for several times during the '60s, may have played a role as to why he ended up with this particular machine.

:Twocents: Did this magazine stolen stripped .Former 68 Charger street car story become the known #88 car as we know now? Or its another unsolved mopar mystery or who had retrieved the stolen shell


Not bad for a car that had been left a derelict on the mean streets of Los Angeles. Chrysler had sent a Dodge Charger Hemi out to California for testing by a major auto enthusiast magazine. It was stolen one night and was lost for quite a while. Finally, L.A. police found the stripped out derelict body on the mean streets of Watts. There wasn't much left except the body, which had been left sitting on cement blocks. The police hauled it into their impound lot. Notifications were made, of course. At first, nothing was going to happen. However it was the time of the Riverside race. One of the guys involved had taken a car out to Riverside to sell. His trailer was empty for the return trip, so he was asked to pick up the hulk from the L.A.P.D. lot.  He did so. That car became the #88 engineering mule and the 200 mile an hour record holder.

However it was the time of the Riverside race. One of the guys involved had taken a car out to Riverside to sell. His trailer was empty for the return trip, so he was asked to pick up the hulk from the L.A.P.D. lot.  He did so. That car became the #88 engineering mule and the 200 mile an hour record holder


1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701