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« Reply #325 on: December 20, 2014, 06:03:22 AM »

392-548, Taste great-Less filling, 392-548, 500 Owners-Wing car owners, 392-548   brickwall slap
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« Reply #326 on: December 20, 2014, 09:02:23 AM »

I have seen way more Daytona's than c500. How many does Danny have that are known.
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« Reply #327 on: December 20, 2014, 10:25:55 AM »

Well, it's time to break the news: I have a list that says there were 478. I got it from my uncle who was fork lift driver at Chrysler during the period of Charger 500 production, and I can prove that he was!

For a small fee, there is a good chance that I will send you a letter stating that the actual production number is 478, and also a picture of my uncle Frank on his forklift!! My uncle Carl also worked there and has vouched for uncle Frank's forklift experience!!! I am offering more definitive proof of the actual production number than anyone else, so contact me now!!!!




Disclaimer: I was going to offer the list publicly because of my dedication to the hobby and for the benefit of all my fellow Mopar enthusiast, but have decided to keep it to myself and whore the information out bit by bit for minor personal gain. Please don't judge the quality of my character on this.  


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« Reply #328 on: December 20, 2014, 12:58:16 PM »

Surely some were bought and never registered, straight to the track and wrecked?
FOR THE MAN IN THE STREET................
A highly modified Hemi-Charger R/T for only a few bucks more than a stock R/T!
No more problems with non working headlight doors and capable of 200mph!!!
Its a no brainer!

Jon you don't seriously believe this do you?
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« Reply #329 on: December 20, 2014, 04:48:20 PM »

Well, it's time to break the news: I have a list that says there were 478. I got it from my uncle who was fork lift driver at Chrysler during the period of Charger 500 production, and I can prove that he was!

For a small fee, there is a good chance that I will send you a letter stating that the actual production number is 478, and also a picture of my uncle Frank on his forklift!! My uncle Carl also worked there and has vouched for uncle Frank's forklift experience!!! I am offering more definitive proof of the actual production number than anyone else, so contact me now!!!!




Disclaimer: I was going to offer the list publicly because of my dedication to the hobby and for the benefit of all my fellow Mopar enthusiast, but have decided to keep it to myself and whore the information out bit by bit for minor personal gain. Please don't judge the quality of my character on this.  





That was pretty funny, but the situation itself is pretty sad. The list if available should be shared period...to ask for money is similar to asking for ransom.
I am sure a list like that would be beneficial to many and would help answer some questions and clear up some grey areas.

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« Reply #330 on: December 20, 2014, 05:05:47 PM »

I can give him a pass on wanting to get paid for it, I don't agree with it but I do understand how things work.  What irks me is that it is largely such a secret list.  The magazines fall all over themselves anytime GG goes to the balcony with outstretched arms, how hard would it be to say publicly, "there is alist, this is the number, call me".  End of controversy and quite frankly if he's holding it ransom, it's a much better way of cashing in on it.
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« Reply #331 on: December 20, 2014, 05:06:24 PM »

I agree that information should be shared not sold.   I can understand the need for reimbursement for an inspection and documents of that inspection.

Something similar was discussed on this forum about selling broadcast sheets found to the car owner it belongs to. eek  It just feels wrong.
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« Reply #332 on: December 20, 2014, 06:21:21 PM »

information falls into the hands of two types of people - enthusiasts who want to preserve and/or further the hobby, and opportunists who are looking to cash in.

i must be out of touch with things if GG has returned to the public's good graces. there was a time when the GG stamp of approval was a good thing. google the name now, and see how karma has turned the tide.

 
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« Reply #333 on: December 20, 2014, 07:45:08 PM »

information falls into the hands of two types of people - enthusiasts who want to preserve and/or further the hobby, and opportunists who are looking to cash in.

i must be out of touch with things if GG has returned to the public's good graces. there was a time when the GG stamp of approval was a good thing. google the name now, and see how karma has turned the tide.

 

 2thumbs   I will add that that one can start out one way and turn another for whatever reasons.
When I met Galen (about 12 years ago) My instincts told me nothing was amiss with his intent or integrity.
I still withhold a judging opinion because I have no personal connection to energize my instincts.

His beginnings in this hobby (as a mopar nut) may have grown to the point that in order to follow the passion further called for letting go of other means of earning a living. shruggy

One thing we all talk about frequently in this hobby is it's not a business to begin with and to try to make it so is a hard road. Twocents
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« Reply #334 on: December 21, 2014, 09:11:21 AM »

The auction houses, magazine hacks and gazillionaires who knew dick about cars fed his ego too.  I don't think he was the one who came up with the "guru" bs.  They made him a kind of a numbers rockstar.
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« Reply #335 on: December 21, 2014, 11:31:08 AM »

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,115092.msg1423513.html#top
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« Reply #336 on: December 22, 2014, 08:45:20 AM »

I sure do Mr.Ghoste!

Why can't an aero C500 do 200mph?
I heard that a certain stock 68 Charger does 180mph on the street all day long!!! 2thumbs
I'm sure that a hemi C500 will easy do it!!! drive
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« Reply #337 on: December 22, 2014, 11:28:26 AM »

So you feel that the Joe Average "man in the street" would go out and buy a 69 Hemi Charger 500, a car already priced well above the standard Charger, IF HE COULD FIND ONE, and then proceeded to void the warranty by gutting the entire car, welding in a cage, rebuilding the suspension, and then rebuilding the drivetrain, including the Hemi, up to race standards?
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Never happened.  I seriously doubt the street version will hit 200.  I don't believe the one about the stock 68 running 180 all day either.  The non aero's get VERY unstable as they pass 120.  That is something I do know.
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« Reply #338 on: December 22, 2014, 12:02:28 PM »

The auction houses, magazine hacks and gazillionaires who knew dick about cars fed his ego too.  I don't think he was the one who came up with the "guru" bs.  They made him a kind of a numbers rockstar.
That is it right there, no question. 2thumbs
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« Reply #339 on: December 22, 2014, 12:58:40 PM »

So you feel that the Joe Average "man in the street" would go out and buy a 69 Hemi Charger 500, a car already priced well above the standard Charger, IF HE COULD FIND ONE, and then proceeded to void the warranty by gutting the entire car, welding in a cage, rebuilding the suspension, and then rebuilding the drivetrain, including the Hemi, up to race standards?



Isn' t that what Bo and Luke Duke did with the General Lee?  LOL  cheers      popcrn  
 
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« Reply #340 on: December 22, 2014, 08:09:14 PM »

Who recalls the brown 69 500 W/ W23 recall wheels in the charger brochure only available with the Hemi .The factory misinformation started there and snow balled  Twocents
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« Reply #341 on: December 22, 2014, 08:30:45 PM »

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« Reply #342 on: December 23, 2014, 04:45:11 AM »

I sure do Mr.Ghoste!

Why can't an aero C500 do 200mph?
I heard that a certain stock 68 Charger does 180mph on the street all day long!!! 2thumbs
I'm sure that a hemi C500 will easy do it!!! drive

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« Reply #343 on: December 23, 2014, 05:18:19 AM »

Can't quite read that Greg.

But I get the gist of it!
C500 was real good at 192+mph so 200 was quite doable!!! 2thumbs
The nose and wing of the Daytona's pushed the envelope to 240+mph.
We know the horsepower and torque was already there in 1969, thats why restrictor plates were introduced.

So when it comes to Hemi-C500 Roadcars, I'm sure they were well capable of the 200 barrier, set up correctly.
No I'm not talking of a race-track 200mph, just a straight line 200mph.

I feel I'm talking myself into doing it with my C500 to prove a point!!! rofl rofl rofl
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« Reply #344 on: December 23, 2014, 09:06:14 AM »

Can't quite read that Greg.

But I get the gist of it!
C500 was real good at 192+mph so 200 was quite doable!!! 2thumbs
The nose and wing of the Daytona's pushed the envelope to 240+mph.

An additional 17.5  horsepower was needed to increase one mph at 190+.    So you would need to find another 140 horsepower out of the Hemi to run near 200.    That is the problem. 

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« Reply #345 on: December 23, 2014, 09:51:50 AM »

#240 Charger 500s


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« Reply #346 on: December 23, 2014, 10:11:31 AM »

Can't quite read that Greg.

But I get the gist of it!
C500 was real good at 192+mph so 200 was quite doable!!! 2thumbs
The nose and wing of the Daytona's pushed the envelope to 240+mph.
We know the horsepower and torque was already there in 1969, thats why restrictor plates were introduced.

So when it comes to Hemi-C500 Roadcars, I'm sure they were well capable of the 200 barrier, set up correctly.
No I'm not talking of a race-track 200mph, just a straight line 200mph.

I feel I'm talking myself into doing it with my C500 to prove a point!!! rofl rofl rofl

John - a readable version can be found here  -->   http://aerowarriors.com/cda/cda_09_120968.html

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You might also like this -->  http://aerowarriors.com/cda/cda_111368.html
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« Reply #347 on: December 23, 2014, 10:16:27 AM »

Thanx Aero426 and Greg!

I see what you are saying, aerodynamics versus horsepower.
425hp as stock so near to 600hp is needed.
That's an easy ask with modern hemi's.
I will go 572 cubes with my Mega block and ali-heads.
Most Folks won't be able to see the differences when its bolted in lol!
I'll still use pump-gas as its getting cheaper everyday...........

572J

Hmmm. 1.5% floor modifications, dry sump, blocked grilles, what have I gone and said now???
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« Reply #348 on: December 23, 2014, 10:30:27 AM »

OOPs back on TOPIC!

240 C500's, its gets better every day!!! 2thumbs
They must all be found NOW!!! scratchchin scratchchin scratchchin
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« Reply #349 on: December 23, 2014, 10:53:15 AM »


I see what you are saying, aerodynamics versus horsepower.
425hp as stock so near to 600hp is needed.


The race engine used for that 192mph test approached or slightly bettered 600 HP.   So you need upwards of 700 to get the job done.
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