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What is my CID?

Started by jdiesel33, March 09, 2012, 11:31:35 AM

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jdiesel33

I have a 440 in my '68 and it was bored 40 over. Can someone tell me what the new cid is? i think the calculation is bore x stroke x 8, maybe? However I dont know exactly what to put in for the bore and stroke.
1968 Dodge Charger R/T
PP1,Black Hat, Black Stripes

adauto

Well .30 over would make a 446. There's a formula for this , but I just dont remember it.
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6pkrunner

The formula is pi/4 x bore x bore x stroke x number of cylinders.

3.1416/4 x 4.32 x 4.32 x 3.75 x 8 = 439.723 for stock 4.32 bore

3.1416/4 x 4.34 x 4.34 x 3.75 x 8 = 443.804 for 0.020 over

3.1416/4 x 4.35 x 4.35 x 3.75 x 8 = 445.851 for  0.030 over

3.141.6/4 x 4.36 x 4.36 x 3.75 x 8 = 447.904 for 0.040 over

3.1416/4 x 4.38 x 4.38 x 3.75 x 8 = 452.022 for 0.60 over

oldschool

another one is:

bore x bore x stroke x .785 = cid for each cylinder. then just  mulitply by no. of cylinders.

your case: 4.360 x 4.360 x 3.75 x .785 =55.95 ci. per cyl x8 = 447.67 cid.
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Dino

Guess I have a 444 then!  My engine has the mark on the id pad that says it's 20 over, not sure why.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

jdiesel33

Thanks fellas. Those are good formulas to have on hand.
1968 Dodge Charger R/T
PP1,Black Hat, Black Stripes

jdiesel33

Quote from: 6pkrunner on March 09, 2012, 11:48:04 AM
The formula is pi/4 x bore x bore x stroke x number of cylinders.

3.1416/4 x 4.32 x 4.32 x 3.75 x 8 = 439.723 for stock 4.32 bore

3.1416/4 x 4.34 x 4.34 x 3.75 x 8 = 443.804 for 0.020 over

3.1416/4 x 4.35 x 4.35 x 3.75 x 8 = 445.851 for  0.030 over

3.141.6/4 x 4.36 x 4.36 x 3.75 x 8 = 447.904 for 0.040 over

3.1416/4 x 4.38 x 4.38 x 3.75 x 8 = 452.022 for 0.60 over

Maybe I should get the hood black out stickers and then get stickers to put on those that say "447.904 c.i." . :scratchchin: :rofl:
1968 Dodge Charger R/T
PP1,Black Hat, Black Stripes

adauto

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John_Kunkel

Quote from: Dino on March 09, 2012, 01:48:17 PM
Guess I have a 444 then!  My engine has the mark on the id pad that says it's 20 over, not sure why.

The engine plant made some sort of a boo-boo and, rather than scrap the block, they bored it .020" over.
Ditto for oversized lifters and undersized cranks.
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Budnicks

Isn't the easy formula actually ; bore ( 4.32"+0.040" = 4.36" ) X bore ( 4.36" ) X stroke ( 3.75" ) X number of cylinders ( 8 ) X .7854 = CID 447.90419ci   :hah: {That way you don't need to know what pi/4 is}...
"fill your library before you fill your garage"   Budnicks

A383Wing

CID = 3.1415926 x (Bore/2 x Bore/2) x stroke x number of cylinders

This is what I have always used....I can't find the "PIE" key on my keyboard

Bryan

mhinders

Quote from: A383Wing on March 09, 2012, 11:52:58 PM
CID = 3.1415926 x (Bore/2 x Bore/2) x stroke x number of cylinders

This is what I have always used....I can't find the "PIE" key on my keyboard

Bryan

I agree with you Bryan, why make a simple, basic formula complicated?
Martin
Martin
Dodge Charger 1967, 512 cui, E85, MegaSquirt MS3X sequential ignition and injection

404NOTFOUND

Quote from: jdiesel33 on March 09, 2012, 03:41:55 PM
Quote from: 6pkrunner on March 09, 2012, 11:48:04 AM
The formula is pi/4 x bore x bore x stroke x number of cylinders.

3.1416/4 x 4.32 x 4.32 x 3.75 x 8 = 439.723 for stock 4.32 bore

3.1416/4 x 4.34 x 4.34 x 3.75 x 8 = 443.804 for 0.020 over

3.1416/4 x 4.35 x 4.35 x 3.75 x 8 = 445.851 for  0.030 over

3.141.6/4 x 4.36 x 4.36 x 3.75 x 8 = 447.904 for 0.040 over

3.1416/4 x 4.38 x 4.38 x 3.75 x 8 = 452.022 for 0.60 over



Maybe I should get the hood black out stickers and then get stickers to put on those that say "447.904 c.i." . :scratchchin: :rofl:

I like that idea. Don't forget to do updates for bore wear. You should be able to run 448 stickers around the 15,000 mile mark. ;)
My 1969 Charger. RIP......Rest in pieces.

john108

That is pretty good for pie, if you don't mind round-off error.

I use: 3.14159265358979323846264338327950288 when I am in a hurry.

Cooter

I just tell people when they ask about what Cu. In. my final engine build is, that it's just "BIG".
I also like telling them that I "Bored this thing all the way out to a 500" motor" that one really gets 'em talking.
" I have spent thousands of dollars and countless hours researching what works and what doesn't and I'm willing to share"

mhinders

Quote from: john108 on March 10, 2012, 07:18:33 PM
That is pretty good for pie, if you don't mind round-off error.

I use: 3.14159265358979323846264338327950288 when I am in a hurry.
It's that kind of rounding off that causes space crafts to get lost in space!  :icon_smile_big:
Martin
Dodge Charger 1967, 512 cui, E85, MegaSquirt MS3X sequential ignition and injection

doctor4766

I never was too good with math.
Can someone tell me what a 383 with a 0.30 over bore would equate to please?
Gotta love a '69

A383Wing

Quote from: doctor4766 on March 11, 2012, 04:31:09 AM
I never was too good with math.
Can someone tell me what a 383 with a 0.30 over bore would equate to please?

I assume you mean .030" overbore, not 0.30 as you posted

.030" overbore is 387.44 using my formula above...

Bryan

doctor4766

Quote from: A383Wing on March 11, 2012, 10:38:55 AM
Quote from: doctor4766 on March 11, 2012, 04:31:09 AM
I never was too good with math.
Can someone tell me what a 383 with a 0.30 over bore would equate to please?

I assume you mean .030" overbore, not 0.30 as you posted

.030" overbore is 387.44 using my formula above...

Bryan

Thanks for that Bryan  :cheers:
Gotta love a '69

mhinders

Quote from: A383Wing on March 09, 2012, 11:52:58 PM
CID = 3.1415926 x (Bore/2 x Bore/2) x stroke x number of cylinders
This is what I have always used....I can't find the "PIE" key on my keyboard
Bryan
Hey Bryan, have you noticed that today is "pie-day", date is 3.14        :cheers:   :icon_smile_big:
Martin
Dodge Charger 1967, 512 cui, E85, MegaSquirt MS3X sequential ignition and injection

A383Wing

I like pie......

apple pie

Bryan (and in about a month, it will be Hemi day - 4-26)