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Title: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: FastbackJon on March 29, 2006, 02:51:45 AM
From Dirty Mary Crazy Larry...

If you have the DVD, fast forward to the 51 minute mark. They are in the Impala and cross some train tracks and pull into "Dutton Flats" where the flea market is. At the 52:42 mark you can see a "STATE HWY 88" sign in the background. Forward up to 53:31 and you can see what looks like the same sign (with "STATE HWY 88" on it), but at more of an angle so you can see the cross street of "SIXTH".

Well I checked on Google Maps and found state highway 88 in California, and I went along it and found one cross street of "Sixth" between Stockton, CA and the Nevada border.

Compare for yourself with the movie and it looks like the same spot!

http://www.google.com/local?f=q&hl=en&q=38.191935,-121.083884

Switch to the satellite view and you can see what look like where train tracks used to be. So I'm thinking they were coming from the south, went north over the train tracks and turned left into the long parking lot (wasn't a paved parking lot in the movie) where the flea market was. Even comparing the trees in the background shot looking south across the train tracks, they look pretty close.

If anyone lives close to this area it would be cool lif you could drive over there and check it out in person and take some pictures of what it looks like today if it is the spot.
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: tan top on March 29, 2006, 05:01:02 AM
good find  :thumbs:, i will have to watch DMCL tonight :icon_smile_big: and have a look for :scope: the sign ,never noticed that before. i wonder  where  the gas station was located   :scratchchin:
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: Ghoste on March 29, 2006, 06:49:42 AM
Somebody posted a pic of the pool hall/gas station as it appears today in another recent DMCL thread.
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: Ghoste on March 29, 2006, 06:58:33 AM
Here it is.  I apologize to whoever I stole the pic from for not giving proper credt.
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: tan top on March 29, 2006, 08:28:38 AM
Quote from: Ghoste on March 29, 2006, 06:49:42 AM
Somebody posted a pic of the pool hall/gas station as it appears today in another recent DMCL thread.
                thanks Ghoste  i must of missed that thread , i will do a search for it


                         ( what do ya know a land 'in  spot )  :drive:
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: Ghoste on March 29, 2006, 08:39:36 AM
Try this.

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,8689.0.html

And 440airforce is who I stole the pic from.
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: tan top on March 29, 2006, 09:38:41 AM
 thanks Ghoste good stuff    :popcrn:
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: Crazy Larry on March 29, 2006, 01:08:28 PM
I'm not so sure that is a 1968 Charger in the pics on the previous thread.

I know IMDB.com and some others have mentioned there were three Chargers used in DMCL, 2 '69 Chargers and a '68.
The only scene that has a possible 1968 Charger is when they meet a police cruiser, and Larry ends up bumping him into a small pond. During that sequence, the front is obviosule a 1968 front grille - but the side marker ligths and rear end is still '69 style. This wasn't a very small film, it did cost a few million to make and the filmmakers were pretty good - so for them to start the production with two '69's and a '68 is a little bit of a stretch.

If you watch the scene again, all that is 1968 about that Charger is the grille. Maybe I missed something, but the marker lights and tail lights ar 1969. It looks like they probably had an accident off camera and had to do a last minute repair - and all that was available at the time was a 1968 grille. So they had to roll the cameras that day with the '68 grille only to switch it back to a 1969 for continuity purposes when a '69 grill became available.

From the evidence of the scene that was shot and the fact that these were Hollywood filmmakers - that looks like the more likely story. I believe DMCL used 3 1969 Chargers for the shoot.
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: Ghoste on March 29, 2006, 01:13:40 PM
Well, that's going to give me a good excuse for a frame by frame re-watch tonight. ;D
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: FastbackJon on March 29, 2006, 01:27:52 PM
After they hit the red truck in the orchards they have a low rear shot of the Charger that is obviously a '68.

The valance panel is missing the round reverse lights. The taillight panel has clearly been modified to have the '69 taillights, but it doesn't look 100% factory correct around the edges. And to top it off, the car has '68 round side marker lights.

I think I remember seeing the '68 pleated seats too in one shot, but I don't remember which one.

(http://cnh320.0moola.com/screencaps/dmcl/25.jpg)
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: Ghoste on March 29, 2006, 01:33:20 PM
Well I don't see the 68 side markers (are you looking at the "440" in the stripe?) but your other points are pretty apparent.  It also seems to have the rollbar of the car used for the "sailor" scenes.
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: Blown70 on March 29, 2006, 01:40:48 PM
I see what I believe to be the 68 sides and certainly do not see a 69 side marker.  I do not know.

Tom
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: Crazy Larry on March 29, 2006, 01:44:13 PM
Quote from: Blown70 on March 29, 2006, 01:40:48 PM
I see what I believe to be the 68 sides and certainly do not see a 69 side marker. I do not know.

Tom

In what scene?

From my expierience with shooting with Chargers in movies - or any stunt cars for that matter. Sometimes, last minute repairs have to be made in order to keep the camera rolling and that is where continuity errors arise. I still have yet to see 1968 rear tail marker lights in the movie and also all the door locks are in the '69 position, as opposed to the 1968 far back at the ends of the door.

Anything small - like a rear valence, or a fron grill - may have been 1968 because that was what was available for cheap at the last minute because producers are always lloking to save money.
But using a completely wrong year car would never have been a decision of the film company.

Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: Blown70 on March 29, 2006, 01:45:46 PM
I was posting in reference to the above picture.  However this topic really falls into my, WTFE file.

Tom
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: Crazy Larry on March 29, 2006, 01:50:06 PM
(http://cnh320.0moola.com/screencaps/dmcl/15.jpg)

Here is the shot of the "1968" used - it only shows up in one scene - at I think I see a '69 marker light on the passenger side fender.

There are better frames in the movie to see more accurately that they used 69's with 68 parts to make repairs of damage from off camera accidents.

Maybe when I have more time, I'll start a whole thread with screen captures to try to make my case - it can be like a DC.com trial - and ya'll will be the jury.

;D
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: FastbackJon on March 29, 2006, 02:20:18 PM
Quote from: Ghoste on March 29, 2006, 01:33:20 PM
Well I don't see the 68 side markers (are you looking at the "440" in the stripe?) but your other points are pretty apparent.  It also seems to have the rollbar of the car used for the "sailor" scenes.

Well if you watch the movie and not just the one frame I posted, you can clearly see the '68 marker lights in the stripe behind the "440" in that scene (1:13:47 mark).

And just before the Charger rams the cop car into the stream, when the Charger is on the higher dirt road, and the cop car is on the lower parallel paved road, there is a shot looking up across the hood/driver area of the cop car to the Charger, and the Charger has the '68 marker lights, no reverse lights in the valance, AND '68 Charger taillights. This is about the 1:09:37 mark.

The '68 looks like it is missing the Charger scripts on the sail panel as well, but so is the '69 non R/T car we see going around the corner at 1:10:38.
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: 69charger2002 on March 29, 2006, 02:31:22 PM
they definitely had a 68. in that tail panel shot the reason it looks so funny is because it is surrounded by the 68 only taillight trim that goes around the tail panel. now at first the grill theory could have and does look to be somewhat correct.. but i KNOW that is a 68 tail trim, and looks liek the 68 tail panel was cut out at the taillights to house the 69 lights.. which would give it that goofy looking back end look.. also no lower valance back up lights.. i mean come on. they wouldn't go put 68 tail trim on a 69 charger.. that is the dead giveaway if nothing else.. look close.. even the C pieces beside the taillights are still there
trav
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: Crazy Larry on March 29, 2006, 02:32:12 PM
Quote from: FastbackJon on March 29, 2006, 02:20:18 PM
Quote from: Ghoste on March 29, 2006, 01:33:20 PM
Well I don't see the 68 side markers (are you looking at the "440" in the stripe?) but your other points are pretty apparent.  It also seems to have the rollbar of the car used for the "sailor" scenes.

Well if you watch the movie and not just the one frame I posted, you can clearly see the '68 marker lights in the stripe behind the "440" in that scene (1:13:47 mark).

And just before the Charger rams the cop car into the stream, when the Charger is on the higher dirt road, and the cop car is on the lower parallel paved road, there is a shot looking up across the hood/driver area of the cop car to the Charger, and the Charger has the '68 marker lights, no reverse lights in the valance, AND '68 Charger taillights. This is about the 1:09:37 mark.

The '68 looks like it is missing the Charger scripts on the sail panel as well. And didn't I mention I saw '68 Charger pleated seats in one of the scenes?

I'll have to recheck that scene then - I just watched it last week and I remember watching that scene with the whoel 68/69 thing in mind. I'll rewatch and look for screenshots of the tailights though.

Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: Crazy Larry on March 29, 2006, 02:34:08 PM
Quote from: 69charger2002 on March 29, 2006, 02:31:22 PM
they definitely had a 68. in that tail panel shot the reason it looks so funny is because it is surrounded by the 68 only taillight trim that goes around the tail panel. now at first the grill theory could have and does look to be somewhat correct.. but i KNOW that is a 68 tail trim, and looks liek the 68 tail panel was cut out at the taillights to house the 69 lights.. which would give it that goofy looking back end look.. also no lower valance back up lights.. i mean come on. they wouldn't go put 68 tail trim on a 69 charger.. that is the dead giveaway if nothing else.. look close.. even the C pieces beside the taillights are still there
trav

great observation there - do you remember what scene has the close-up of the taillight panel that you are referencing?

Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: tan top on March 29, 2006, 02:42:49 PM
Quote from: FastbackJon on March 29, 2006, 01:27:52 PM
After they hit the red truck in the orchards they have a low rear shot of the Charger that is obviously a '68.

The valance panel is missing the round reverse lights. The taillight panel has clearly been modified to have the '69 taillights, but it doesn't look 100% factory correct around the edges. And to top it off, the car has '68 round side marker lights.

I think I remember seeing the '68 pleated seats too in one shot, but I don't remember which one.

(http://cnh320.0moola.com/screencaps/dmcl/25.jpg)
       
           :iagree: it looks like  modified rear of a  68  charger to me , i think why  you cannot see the marker light is may be the film crew covered it up with black tape or something ,and you would not see it against the black stripe .
  i might be totally wrong but i think i saw a original DMCL poster with Susan George sitting on the chargers roof  that had a roll bar and  pleated 68 seats , i think also  the door lock buttons were at the end of the door, as in  a 68
good idea Crazy Larry can't wait :scope:  
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: Ghoste on March 29, 2006, 04:33:18 PM
I seem to recall a scene in the movie with the door locks at the back but I'm not certain enough to say for sure without watching it again.  I do have pretty much every poster and lobby card they made for the movie including a Japanese program so I'll try and look through that stuff for a shot of the interior.  An interior photo would almost seal the deal.
Of course, a still photo could have just been a 68 parts car that was used for promotional pics. ;)
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: FastbackJon on March 29, 2006, 06:42:37 PM
So is no one in the area close enough to check out the spot I found?

Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: mustanghater on March 29, 2006, 08:03:39 PM
I need to see this movie
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: Ghoste on March 29, 2006, 08:57:12 PM
I can't believe you haven't.  Go down to your local Wal-Mart or Blockbuster right now and get a copy.
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: mustanghater on March 29, 2006, 09:01:24 PM
I could have bought it at Video Exchange last week but I was short 5 bucks.
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: FastbackJon on March 31, 2006, 03:04:50 AM
Just doing some investigating on where they drop off Mary only to find that she took the map. Check out the bench she is sitting on when they come back, it says "Deegan Funeral Chapel" and underneath says "Corner of San Joaquin and HWY 120".

Well a quick search of for that Funeral Chapel netted me a result in Escalon, CA, and what do you know, it is in the same place!

So I wonder if they drop her off is in the same town, Escalon, CA. From the shot where they pick her up and leave, you can see that the convienence store where they drop her off is also an IOOF hall.

But also look at the building address of the IOOF Hall/convienence store. Looks like "25520". I google searched that near Escalon, CA and came up with a grocery store on the corner of two main roads in Farmington, CA (18 miles from Escalon).

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=25520+loc:+Escalon,+CA&ll=37.930041,-120.99889&spn=0.006406,0.014355

There's also an IOOF lodge in Farmington.

http://www.caioof.org/IOOF/CA_Lodges.html#F

This looks VERY promising as the grocery store from the google map is on the corner and there are a couple straight roads coming in and going out. Not only that, but the railroad tracks are in the correct place with respect to the grocery store, and there is even an elementery school to the west of the store across the railroad tracks, just like the movie (see the school crossing sign in the movie). So I'm thinking they came into Farmington from the north, parked at the grocery store, and sped off to the west across the railroad tracks.

Here's the best satellite image I could get. Even looks like in the movie!


Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: FastbackJon on March 31, 2006, 03:31:01 AM
Going back to the 1968 issue, look at the cover of the DVD (supercharger edition anyway). The '68 is right there with the roll cage, door locks to the back, and pleated seats!
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: tan top on March 31, 2006, 03:38:04 AM
good detective work  :scope: (FastbackJon) ,intresting stuff . :thumbs: like you said the other day it really needs somebody  who lives in that area to drive out there to have a look around, may be shoot some video comming from different directions etc,
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: FastbackJon on March 31, 2006, 03:53:19 AM
Thanks, and if someone can screen capture the 1:25:32 mark, there's only one person in the Charger, the driver!

Then skip ahead to 1:28:35 and you can see about a 6 foot tall antenna sticking up from the passenger fender of the Charger where the stock one should be.
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: tan top on March 31, 2006, 04:34:11 AM
Quote from: FastbackJon on March 31, 2006, 03:31:01 AM
Going back to the 1968 issue, look at the cover of the DVD (supercharger edition anyway). The '68 is right there with the roll cage, door locks to the back, and pleated seats!
   
                    that's it then Jon more proof right there !   ,i will have to buy DMCL on dvd ,because  feeze  framing  is not so good with a video  :scope: :brickwall: .i remember reading about they were going to release  2  DMCL dvd's one with deleted movie seens in it, or i might have got it completely wrong .  I'll watch it again tonight, have a look for the antenna, any excuse to watch it ;D
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: Ghoste on March 31, 2006, 05:04:41 AM
Whe you watch it on dvd it gets easy to spot the different cars.  An RT, a non RT, airtemp stickers that vanish and reappear, dash speakers, etc.
I would love to see them release the version with deleted scenes but I doubt it's coming.  They have an interview with Peter Fonda and Susan George and the director on the dvd that is a good watch too.
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: Charger_69 on March 31, 2006, 08:30:28 PM
  Does it seem to anyone else that the car pulling into the orange grove has narrower rear wheels and also with the Charger crashes into the train?? is it the 68 that hits the train i wonder??
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: Ghoste on April 01, 2006, 12:19:20 AM
I've heard that from people before that the 68 was the car they pulled into the train but I've watched that scene frame by frame on the dvd and I am absolutely positive it's a 69.
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: reghoule on April 01, 2006, 09:33:13 AM
Does anybody know if the three Chargers were damaged because of the accident with the pickup ?. I'm sure that the 68 and the 69 R/T were, but I cannot see in the DVD a  shot where the non-R/T was.

So it must be the R/T that was crashed into the train  ???(I try to see the crest between the rear lights but I cant tell if It's the R/T or the Charger one)
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: FastbackJon on April 03, 2006, 05:09:34 AM
Check out the 3:27 mark of the film. You can see the Save Mart they rob. A little bit later you see Larry calling from a payphone and you can see "Stockton" on the pay phone. Well I did a search for Save Marts in Stockton and came up with a list. Only one of them looks like it would fit the one from the movie, with the way the road lightly curves around to the right.

http://www.google.com/local?f=l&hl=en&q=Save+mart&near=Stockton,+CA&t=k&ll=38.018062,-121.322933&spn=0.003199,0.007178

Also at the 3:27 mark I noticed a Wells Fargo Bank sign. So I did a search on that and came up with one exactly where it should be in respect to the Save Mart on the above map and per the film!

http://www.google.com/local?f=l&hl=en&q=Wells+Fargo+Bank&near=Stockton,+CA&ll=38.018666,-121.322402&spn=0.003199,0.007178&t=k

I think those things alone don't convince me 100% because the parking lot layout and buildings look a lot different (but it has been 32 years). In the movie you can also see a steep cathedral steeple off in the distance to the side of the supermarket (3:34 and 3:35 mark), but I don't see that on the map to the east of the current Save Mart. I can also see a sign for Round Table Pizza and something like a Fosters or Posters Bag Center? But I didn't find either of those near the other two on the map.

I did call the grocery store I found in Farmington and confirm it was the one used in the movie!

;D
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: Crazy Larry on April 03, 2006, 06:16:41 AM
Fastback John, you are too cool for words - great legwork on the movie locations!

Bravo!
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: tan top on April 03, 2006, 06:35:35 AM
more good  dective :scope: work( FastbackJon)  good stuff :2thumbs:
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: FastbackJon on April 03, 2006, 12:58:15 PM
Well after even more checking around, I was wrong. The Save Mart is not in Stockton, CA but rather in Sonora CA, on Stockton Street.

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=l&hl=en&q=Save+Mart&near=Sonora,+CA&ll=37.983352,-120.384107&spn=0.004287,0.010064

Looks like it still looks like it did back then!
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: tan top on April 03, 2006, 01:38:23 PM
that does look like it , the  way   it is positioned to road
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: FastbackJon on April 03, 2006, 02:49:59 PM
Pretty sure I just found the bridge they jump too. I was just looking around for big waterways with straight roads going over them. Waterways big enough to need a draw bridge, in that area, and found this one.

http://www.google.com/local?f=q&hl=en&q=&t=k&ll=37.819743,-121.449893&spn=0.002148,0.005032

They would have jumped going south to north. The station looks the same shape, roads and turnoffs on the north side of the bridge look in the same places, breakwater near the sation looks the same. Even the house with the tan roof and the barn with the metal roof to the north east side of the bridge look to still be there!
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: moparsinbarns on April 03, 2006, 05:20:26 PM
 :bow:
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: Ghoste on April 04, 2006, 04:21:55 AM
Jon, I gotta admit, you have my admiration on this one.  This has been my favorite movie since my dad and I watched it together when I was 12.  I have a small collection of lobby posters and so forth from the flick but you have provided a wealth of cool information on this.
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: Mike DC on April 04, 2006, 07:32:09 AM
       
I see 3 Chargers in DMCL:

--  1969 R/T, no headrest holes, speaker grilles present. 
--  1969 base model, with headrest holes present, but no speaker grilles.
--  1968 model, roughly converted, with rollbar.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

The '68 car wasn't used much.  Maybe just the sideswiping stuff and that one closup of the damage.

The car that rammed the truck was one of the '69s, but I don't know which one.

The only car I see being driven & chased around after the front end hit is the '69 R/T.  The '68 obviously got the damage duplicated on it by the prop guys, but I don't actually see it anywhere else in the footage.

The car that hits the train is one of the '69s.  It's hard to see the taillight panel clearly, but I think it may have been the non-R/T.  I'm guessing maybe they had to hold that one aside during the chase footage to get it rigged up for the train impact.

       
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: Mike DC on April 04, 2006, 07:37:36 AM
1969 R/T

(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-1/925963/DirtyMaryCrazyLarry-0.jpg)

(THESE TWO PICS ARE THE SAME LONG SHOT)

No chromed headrest holes on the tops of the seats (hafta scroll this pic over to see all of Dingleberry's seat):
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-1/925963/DirtyMaryCrazyLarry-2.jpg)

=======================================

1969 non-R/T

(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-1/925963/DirtyMaryCrazyLarry-3.jpg)

Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: Mike DC on April 04, 2006, 07:48:04 AM
Rough 1968 conversion:


'68 signal light hole in the front:
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-1/925963/DirtyMaryCrazyLarry-10.jpg)

(SAME SHOT AS ABOVE)
'68 signal on the quarter: 
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-1/925963/DirtyMaryCrazyLarry-11.jpg)

(MORE OF THE SAME SHOT)
They yanked the '68 taillights, but mistakenly left on the '68 trim just above the bumper.  So the '69 taillights were mounted way too high up on the taillight panel:
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-1/925963/DirtyMaryCrazyLarry-13.jpg)

---------------------------------------------------------

Compare this REAL 1969 taillight panel against the one on the '68 conversion above:
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-1/925963/DirtyMaryCrazyLarry-3.jpg)

     
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: Mike DC on April 04, 2006, 07:56:54 AM
The car that hit the truck looks like a '69.  (It's impossible to tell in this freeze-frame, but when the film is rolling you can see the red signal light on the quarter panel a little bit more.)

(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-1/925963/DirtyMaryCrazyLarry-9.jpg)

=======================================

Looks like one of the '69s hits the train.  You can see the '69 signal light on the quarter panel here. (scroll the pic over to the edge)
Can't tell for sure, but it might have been the non-R/T judging by the blurry taillight panel on the high shot just before impact.

(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-1/925963/DirtyMaryCrazyLarry-16.jpg)

     
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: tan top on April 04, 2006, 03:36:36 PM
been studding the map ,more good detective work( FastbackJon ), sure looks the the place to me also , long  straight road before the bridge slight curve to the left after ,
      i been studding your charger screen shots ( Mike DC) , i have been trying to work out witch charger is witch  and how many were used since i got in to mopars in the  late 70's early 80's. the best i can make out so far i think  is the 69 R/T hit the red truck  and had left rear quarter panel damage from being hit the cop car, the 68 had 69 rear lamps fitted and damaged to look like  the 69 R/T ,the XP charger with the tall bumper guards is not shown with any damage in any of the seens unless i have missed a bit. the 69 charger that hit the train ,did not look like it had left rear quater damage to me ..... :-\ :scratchchin:
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: Mike DC on April 04, 2006, 06:28:30 PM
           
Yeah, good point about the '69 not having any quarter panel damage. 

That means (assuming we're all correct about three Chargers being used) it had to be the '69 non-R/T car that got towed into the train.

     
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: Charger_69 on April 04, 2006, 08:37:33 PM
  Yep i never noticed the one that hits the train had no 1/4 damage, now i have a silly question, ive seen this movie maybee more than a million times LOL and i saw it at the theater in 74 when i was 12 also, now the question is (where were they running to???) ??? , i know it was northern Ca but the next county? state or?   i mean in 74 you could run out of jurisdiction and be safe?? Anyway one of my favorite movies ever, its unbelievable how many not seem to ubderstand the movie :icon_smile_angry:!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: reghoule on April 04, 2006, 09:00:29 PM
One more question about wich car did what! In the scene where the Charger bump the police car into the river, we all agree that we see the 68 (front shot) and a 69 (rear shot), but i'm not sure wich one we see crossing the bridge. The car is going to fast and i cannot clearly see the tailights, but it looks to me like 68 ???
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: Ghoste on April 05, 2006, 04:02:18 AM
I thought we had come to the conclusion that the 69 rear view we see in the bumping scene is the 68 car with 69 taillights poorly spliced in.
Anyway, it looks to me to be 69 lights going over the bridge.
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: tan top on April 05, 2006, 12:09:40 PM
Quote from: Mike DC (formerly miked) on April 04, 2006, 06:28:30 PM
           
Yeah, good point about the '69 not having any quarter panel damage. 

That means (assuming we're all correct about three Chargers being used) it had to be the '69 non-R/T car that got towed into the train.

     
     
                         looks that way Mike  , from what i can see ,the  69 XP charger hasn't got  the  charger name plate on
                         the sail panel , and by the looks of it thats the one that hit the train.
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: FastbackJon on April 05, 2006, 04:34:01 PM
Quote from: Ghoste on April 05, 2006, 04:02:18 AM
I thought we had come to the conclusion that the 69 rear view we see in the bumping scene is the 68 car with 69 taillights poorly spliced in.
Anyway, it looks to me to be 69 lights going over the bridge.

The car you see from the rear in the bumping scene is the '69 because you can see the reverse lights in the valance. Front is obviously a '68 though, so probably a different car. I know I watched the scene where they pass the cop car (which eventually goes through the billboard) and it is interesting how even you would think that was one car, but it switches back and forth a bunch of times between black wiper blades and chrome ones.
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Post by: Mike DC on April 05, 2006, 05:29:50 PM
Quotefrom what i can see ,the  69 XP charger hasn't got  the  charger name plate on the sail panel , and by the looks of it thats the one that hit the train.

Actually, the 1969 R/T car must've had the "Charger" script on the sail panel at least part of the time. 
You can see the emblem clearly on that first pic I posted on this page.

I think both the '69s had that "Charger" script showing on the sail panel at one time or another during the chase.  Maybe it just fell off the car before the train hit or something?

     
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: FastbackJon on April 06, 2006, 05:19:27 AM
The '69 XP car has no driver's sail panel Charger emblem at the 1:10:38 mark where you see it rounding the corner.

I'm still wondering about the shot at about 1:09:37. Looks like '68 taillights to me, and no '69 side marker lights.
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Post by: tan top on April 06, 2006, 04:18:34 PM
from what i have seen the  69 R/T always had a  charger script on the sail panel. the 69  XP charger with the tall bumper guards never had a charger script on the sail panel  check out   1:07:31 mark XP charger turning in to the orchard and at 1:09:27 . but the car in the shot that hits the truck is a 69 with a script on the sail panel. at 1:17:00 the 69 R/T received the left rear quarter damage from the cop car, at 1:17:27 the charger turned on to a dirt road  it was a 69 with no quarter damage  and  a charger script an the sail panel ,  ??? can't be the R/T because it has a damaged quarter, can't be the XP because in all previous shots it had no sail panel script. (  fourth charger may be) :shruggy: :confused:  at the other end of the dirt track it is the 69 R/T with dented left rear  quarter. i still think it was the 69 XP hit the train. at 0:54:04 you can see a interior rear view mirror in the 69 R/T . must of taken it out after that shot , or another R/T  :shruggy: ??? because it is never seen again. yeah i've noticed the wiper blades too chrome 3  piece, then it changes to black 3 piece. also i think i noticed a single piece wiper blade in one shot. or i might be  seeing things. :confused:
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Post by: Mike DC on April 06, 2006, 06:41:03 PM
Maybe we're seeing a fourth (3rd 1969) Charger?

---------------------------------------------

To tell you the truth, I'd be surprised of it was four. 

Movies back then didn't generally pile up the tons of prop-cars like they do now.  They only had two Chargers for the entire "Bullitt" chase. "Mad Max" was shot with only one Interceptor, (and even "Road Warrior" only added a second one for the rollover).   Even the infamous "Dukes" TV series started shooting with only three General Lees (and there were two huge jumps scripted in the first episode).

We didn't often see tons of copies of a prop car for a single production until the later 1970s & early 80s.

       
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: tan top on April 07, 2006, 02:22:38 AM
i agree Mike unlikely. they might of shot the charger turning on to the dirt out of sequence. there is 2 shots of the charger that i am still undecided  a bout . i will have to get it on dvd to give them a closer look.
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: FastbackJon on April 07, 2006, 06:11:35 PM
Just because it has the sail panel script on one side doesn't mean it is on the other. I think at least one scene rounding a corner with the XP car it is missing on the driver's side but present on the passenger side.
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Post by: 69charger2002 on April 07, 2006, 07:56:11 PM
i'm just glad you're digging all this info up jon. i love movie history like this. especially one of my favorite all time movies.. if i ever take a trip to cali. i'd love to look at filming locations
trav
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: TheGhost on April 07, 2006, 11:35:03 PM
Well, I read this thread, and realized I had never seen Dirty Mary, Crazy Larry.  So, I immediatly got into my car, drove to the local movie store, and bought myself a copy.  Took a few screenshots from the movie.

In these, you can see the 68 taillights if you look closely.
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Post by: TheGhost on April 07, 2006, 11:36:00 PM
And this was such a damn cool shot, it is now my desktop background. ;D
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Post by: tan top on April 08, 2006, 02:31:01 AM
thats an awesome job Ghost , those are  the two shots i mentioned earlier that i was undecided about , could not see that detail with freeze framing a video . :popcrn:
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: wLc on April 08, 2006, 08:25:58 PM
Quote from: TheGhost on April 07, 2006, 11:35:03 PM
In these, you can see the 68 taillights if you look closely.
Looks like '68 taillights to me.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v87/willc/dmcl68.jpg)
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: chargervert on April 09, 2006, 08:44:01 AM
I noticed that thr 69 R/T has a dent in the bottom of the rear valence,about 6 inches to the left of the exhaust tip on the drivers side. The 68,and the 69 non R/T do not. This is evident in the first shot of the rear of the car,just before they stopped at the pool hall.
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: FastbackJon on April 10, 2006, 01:07:18 AM
Also check out the first shot we see the Charger, under the front valance (which is bent up by the way) there looks to be a loop or something that might be used to tow it into some sort of large locomotive.
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: tan top on April 10, 2006, 06:40:05 AM
Quote from: FastbackJon on April 10, 2006, 01:07:18 AM
Also check out the first shot we see the Charger, under the front valance (which is bent up by the way) there looks to be a loop or something that might be used to tow it into some sort of large locomotive.
   

      i see :scope: what you meen Jon, never noticed that loop thing before  good spot.
but  in one shot they show a XP charger with a straight front valance and a better alined hood . of course the film crew could of fixed this , but why do that after the first shot that shows it damaged ?  the more i watch this film the more  i think there was a fourth charger ( does'nt make sence i know) :confused:

   
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: Mike DC on April 10, 2006, 08:38:17 AM
Ya know, we might actually be able to shed some light on this subject in June.
         
DOH stuntman Al Wyatt jr also did some driving in DMCL.  And his father was the primary stunt-coordinator for that movie too.  It's worth a shot; maybe next 'Dukesfest" somebody can try asking Junior about DMCL.


(Al Wyatt senior is the gas station guy in DMCL who gets pulled away when the Charger goes tearing out of the station.  And Al junior played the cop riding shotgun in the partol car that almost runs him over in the aftermath.)

Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: tan top on April 10, 2006, 10:06:52 AM
good info Mike ,didn't know that . i would have though he would probably know or at least remember something.
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Post by: Charger_Fan on April 10, 2006, 03:11:00 PM
Geez, all these clear screenshots makes me want to go get the DVD now. ;D

Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: Ghoste on April 11, 2006, 06:07:51 AM
Quote from: tan top on April 10, 2006, 06:40:05 AM... in one shot they show a XP charger with a straight front valance and a better alined hood . of course the film crew could of fixed this , but why do that after the first shot that shows it damaged ?  the more i watch this film the more  i think there was a fourth charger ( does'nt make sence i know) :confused:

Remember though, that movies are seldom filmed in the order in which the storyline is replayed.  They may may very well have filmed parts of the movie before modifying the car to take advantage of lighting or permission to use certain locations or make use of actors availability.  Any number of reasons.
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Post by: tan top on April 11, 2006, 06:26:36 AM
yeah Goaste i was thinking some thing like that my self  ,  one thought was  they might of damaged a couple chargers off screen or had to shoot a re take  and had to get the chargers body  repaired  quickly . 
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: FastbackJon on May 12, 2006, 11:45:29 PM
Anyone have the coordinates for the pool hall?
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: Ghoste on May 13, 2006, 05:32:15 AM
pm the guy who took the photo of it as it stands today.
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: Dave22443 on May 14, 2006, 05:21:39 PM
Anyone notice at the end, the Charger that crashes into the train had the head rests back in it?  It also only had 3 lugs holding the back wheel on, and there appears to be something under the rear end that might have been used to help pull it?

Maybe they put the head rests back in to help hold the dummies head in position?? 
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Post by: mikepmcs on May 14, 2006, 05:29:15 PM
crap now i gotta go to walmart! i need to be in the garage dangit!
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: Lowprofile on May 14, 2006, 06:04:49 PM
Watching the movie tonight!  [gotta love wal-mart]   :icon_smile_big:
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Post by: Crazy Larry on May 14, 2006, 06:16:14 PM
Good analysis - the "4th Charger" theory might be next thext great mystery since the "shooter on the grassy knoll"
;D
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: tan top on May 15, 2006, 02:13:53 AM
Quote from: Dave22443 on May 14, 2006, 05:21:39 PM
Anyone notice at the end, the Charger that crashes into the train had the head rests back in it?  It also only had 3 lugs holding the back wheel on, and there appears to be something under the rear end that might have been used to help pull it?

Maybe they put the head rests back in to help hold the dummies head in position?? 
   
                looks like i will have to watch it again to night  :popcrn: ;D   
                good spot (Dave22443)  never noticed the missing wheel lugs before.  
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: limey on May 15, 2006, 06:10:20 AM
Ghoste...what software are you using to rip those screenshots?
They are great quality. Everytime I try to rip screenshots off the DVD it comes out very badly...
It would be great resource to have on the site if we had a selection of great screenshots in decent resolution from the various "Mopar Films"/TV shows" - you know all the usual....
Limey
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Post by: 440AirForce on May 16, 2006, 05:27:57 PM
Not only do you get great detail watching this on DVD, but I watched it last night on a wide screen. I noticed the headrests were in the 69 in the train collision...ALSO...anyone notice you can see the "Larry dummy" hitting the steering wheel, and the "Deke dummy" flying over and hitting the windshield post?
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Post by: TheGhost on May 16, 2006, 06:33:32 PM
Quote from: limey on May 15, 2006, 06:10:20 AM
Ghoste...what software are you using to rip those screenshots?
They are great quality. Everytime I try to rip screenshots off the DVD it comes out very badly...
It would be great resource to have on the site if we had a selection of great screenshots in decent resolution from the various "Mopar Films"/TV shows" - you know all the usual....
Limey

I have a free DVD playing program on my laptop, called InterVideo WinDVD 4.  On the play control panel, there is a button for taking screenshots.  All I have to do is press the button.  Really handy.
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: Crazy Larry on May 16, 2006, 08:35:49 PM
Quote from: TheGhost on May 16, 2006, 06:33:32 PM
Quote from: limey on May 15, 2006, 06:10:20 AM
Ghoste...what software are you using to rip those screenshots?
They are great quality. Everytime I try to rip screenshots off the DVD it comes out very badly...
It would be great resource to have on the site if we had a selection of great screenshots in decent resolution from the various "Mopar Films"/TV shows" - you know all the usual....
Limey

I have a free DVD playing program on my laptop, called InterVideo WinDVD 4.  On the play control panel, there is a button for taking screenshots.  All I have to do is press the button.  Really handy.

That's what I use - can't beat Intervideo WinDVD, truely the best in capturing screenshots. I have used it for magazine articles and the pictures always come out brilliant.

I believe they sell the WinDVD software at Best Buy, but it usually comes free with DVD drives when you purchase them out of the box.
Also laptops too, as Ghost mentioned.

Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: AirborneSilva on May 17, 2006, 01:01:59 AM
Quote from: FastbackJon on March 31, 2006, 03:04:50 AM
Well a quick search of for that Funeral Chapel netted me a result in Escalon, CA, and what do you know, it is in the same place!

So I wonder if they drop her off is in the same town, Escalon, CA. From the shot where they pick her up and leave, you can see that the convienence store where they drop her off is also an IOOF hall.

But also look at the building address of the IOOF Hall/convienence store. Looks like "25520". I google searched that near Escalon, CA and came up with a grocery store on the corner of two main roads in Farmington, CA (18 miles from Escalon).

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=25520+loc:+Escalon,+CA&ll=37.930041,-120.99889&spn=0.006406,0.014355

There's also an IOOF lodge in Farmington.

http://www.caioof.org/IOOF/CA_Lodges.html#F

This looks VERY promising as the grocery store from the google map is on the corner and there are a couple straight roads coming in and going out. Not only that, but the railroad tracks are in the correct place with respect to the grocery store, and there is even an elementery school to the west of the store across the railroad tracks, just like the movie (see the school crossing sign in the movie). So I'm thinking they came into Farmington from the north, parked at the grocery store, and sped off to the west across the railroad tracks.

Here's the best satellite image I could get. Even looks like in the movie!




I grew up in the area you're talking about, Oakdale to be exact.  They shot the movie in and around the surrounding towns to include, Oakdale, Escalon and Farmington.  You are correct on your Escalon assumption but as for not being quite sure if they drop her off in Escalon or Farmington I can tell you 100% for sure that they drop her off in Farmington, I have been in that store (well that was about 30 years ago but I have been in there), and have done a great deal of my young partying and hell raising (in my 68 Charger R/T), all around there.   

A little side not, I was out partying with a friend one night in my Charger (just rebuilt the 440), it was a foggy night so we were just out cruising and knocking back a few, when just outside Farmington we see a guy in a challenger parked off the side of the road, we pulled over to say high to a fellow MOPAR man when he challenged me to a race, I agreed (and in my alcohol haze I took the wrong side of the road), I let him give the go sign (which was for him to just take off), and when I caught traction in 1st I shot by him and never saw him again.  Well it turned out he had a 383 and thought his poop didn't stink but he was so embarrased he went around telling everyone that I had this massively built 440, headers, dual points and a holley 750 dubble pumper does not make a massive build  :icon_smile_big:
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: SeattleCharger on May 17, 2006, 01:12:58 AM

  Cool pics from movie, I haven't seen it before, remember some scene with the Charger getting hit by a train at the end, that's all I remember, I must have been a little kid when I saw that part,   

    I gotta rent that movie, 
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: Ghoste on May 17, 2006, 04:02:57 AM
AirborneSilva, that's a good story.  So are you able to give Jon the coordinates for the pool hall?
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: AirborneSilva on May 17, 2006, 07:25:36 AM
Quote from: Ghoste on May 17, 2006, 04:02:57 AM
AirborneSilva, that's a good story.  So are you able to give Jon the coordinates for the pool hall?

Thanks, and no I can't help him out on any coordinates, I have not lived around there since 1980.
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Post by: FastbackJon on May 19, 2006, 02:49:47 AM
I was just casually checking out the movie and the map again and I am pretty sure I found the bridge they cross when they are first spotted by the helicopter.

http://www.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=38.045265,-121.077983&ll=38.045265,-121.077983&spn=0.002142,0.006781&t=k&om=1

They would be driving south then turning right (west) at the T in the road. Looks like the same area! Check out the film starting at 1:23:27 and see for yourself.

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Post by: FastbackJon on May 19, 2006, 03:14:03 AM
Here's a shot of the car with the tall antenna (1:28:37).
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: Ghoste on May 19, 2006, 04:24:34 AM
Have you found the pool hall yet Jon?  It was 440airforce that had found it and taken a pic of it as it appears today.
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: tan top on May 21, 2006, 10:44:49 AM
Quote from: FastbackJon on May 19, 2006, 03:14:03 AM
Here's a shot of the car with the tall antenna (1:28:37).
   Jon i am sure this charger is the  R/T that they were sitting in at dutton flats , three speaker dash , black windshield wiper blades. my theory  of a forth charger came from the front/ drivers side  shot of the charger as it turned on to the dirt track at a bout [ 1:17:27] (remember Robert Mitcham in thunder road ) the charger in that shot is different :scope:.  as i mentioned in a previous post, from the usual  two 69's & 68. really need a still shot of this from a dvd  because it shows it only for a second or two, but it is different. the two screen shots of that bit  in other topic dmcl screen shot 2  does not show it
 
    good story Airborne :2thumbs: you know the place real well then , thanks for sharing. 

   
     
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Post by: terrible one on May 21, 2006, 11:00:28 AM
Anyone notice that when Deke is replacing a tire on the Charger, the reflection of the camera crew can be seen in the drivers door?
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Post by: 440AirForce on May 23, 2006, 05:16:24 PM
Quote from: Ghoste on May 19, 2006, 04:24:34 AM
Have you found the pool hall yet Jon?  It was 440airforce that had found it and taken a pic of it as it appears today.

Hey Folks!  440AirForce here. I'm driving down to LA for the weekend, I'll get the pool hall and gen store coordinates for you--the location is on the way.
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Post by: tan top on May 23, 2006, 05:34:02 PM
Quote from: 440AirForce on May 23, 2006, 05:16:24 PM
Quote from: Ghoste on May 19, 2006, 04:24:34 AM
Have you found the pool hall yet Jon?  It was 440airforce that had found it and taken a pic of it as it appears today.

Hey Folks!  440AirForce here. I'm driving down to LA for the weekend, I'll get the pool hall and gen store coordinates for you--the location is on the way.
good stuff :2thumbs:
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Post by: THE CHARGER PUNK on May 23, 2006, 09:46:14 PM
a couple of years back a 68 was being sold in pieces (roof,doors rear end,front end etc.) all chooped up for parts and it carried the dmcl paint jon, maybe that was what became of that car,the 69 r/t the surviving car was sold to a used car dealership and was sold to some guy who had a site stating that it was in fact the lone dmcl survivor and it now currently sits in canada about a 2hr drive away from me as it was later sold to a drug addict in my country, if i ever get a chance and the courage(gulp) i will go out there and get the lo-down, but for now we have 2 keep guessing-MATT
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: FastbackJon on August 25, 2006, 11:05:22 PM
I just found this photo album that has DMCL and Vanishing Point location shots from the person's trip in 2006.

http://community.webshots.com/album/552413926BPGREO

It confirms a bunch of the locations I found on the map, and adds a couple more, the spot where Bill's is...

http://www.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=38.022858,-121.077822&ie=UTF8&z=18&ll=38.022858,-121.077822&spn=0.002138,0.006781&t=k&om=1&iwloc=A

Now if someone can just find that bridge they went over after ramming the cop car into the river...
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: Ghoste on August 26, 2006, 09:04:46 AM
That guys photo album lists all the towns, have you tried plotting a square around those locations on a California road map and looking for likely suspects?
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: tan top on August 26, 2006, 04:54:47 PM
 good links (FastbackJon)  :thumbs: ,
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: pettyfan43 on August 26, 2006, 11:03:50 PM
Quote from: Crazy Larry on March 29, 2006, 01:08:28 PM
I'm not so sure that is a 1968 Charger in the pics on the previous thread.

I know IMDB.com and some others have mentioned there were three Chargers used in DMCL, 2 '69 Chargers and a '68.
The only scene that has a possible 1968 Charger is when they meet a police cruiser, and Larry ends up bumping him into a small pond. During that sequence, the front is obviosule a 1968 front grille - but the side marker ligths and rear end is still '69 style. This wasn't a very small film, it did cost a few million to make and the filmmakers were pretty good - so for them to start the production with two '69's and a '68 is a little bit of a stretch.

If you watch the scene again, all that is 1968 about that Charger is the grille. Maybe I missed something, but the marker lights and tail lights ar 1969. It looks like they probably had an accident off camera and had to do a last minute repair - and all that was available at the time was a 1968 grille. So they had to roll the cameras that day with the '68 grille only to switch it back to a 1969 for continuity purposes when a '69 grill became available.

From the evidence of the scene that was shot and the fact that these were Hollywood filmmakers - that looks like the more likely story. I believe DMCL used 3 1969 Chargers for the shoot.


Look at the DVD cover closely, the car on the cover with the roll cage also has 68 doors, the locks areat the very back of the door panel, PLUS there is one scene where you see the tail and there are no backup lights. Seems to me they had a 687 stunt car
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Post by: pettyfan43 on August 26, 2006, 11:26:47 PM
uh guess I should have read more messages before I posted aobut the door locks... Sorry :rotz:

The DMCL CHarger is my favorite TV/Movie car ever, I buillt this one early this year for a contest, it's painted with Acrylic Urethane paint from Totally AUto(THey are the ONLY place to get it in a spray) Curious Yellow

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Post by: Ghoste on August 27, 2006, 09:56:13 AM
Nice rendering.  Did you win?
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: Charger_Fan on August 27, 2006, 11:16:57 AM
Quote from: FastbackJon on August 25, 2006, 11:05:22 PM
I just found this photo album that has DMCL and Vanishing Point location shots from the person's trip in 2006.
That's pretty cool! Look how many other film locations are in that person's list, too.
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: Ghoste on August 27, 2006, 06:49:28 PM
I went through the Vanishing Point set too but desert all pretty much looks the same to me. :icon_smile_wink:
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: FastbackJon on September 21, 2006, 03:48:41 PM
Watching the movie again it looks like the blue chevy has a black steering wheel and black interior at the beginning of the film, and a blue interior and a blue steering wheel later on!
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: tan top on September 21, 2006, 05:07:35 PM
hadn't noticed that ,  i will  have a look to night  , any excuse to watch  DMCL  ;D       :popcrn:
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Post by: FastbackJon on September 25, 2006, 05:23:40 PM
Just got ahold of the same model CB and mike they used in the Impala and Charger in the movie. Anyone know how to work these things? They are before my time.

Looks like a home unit as it doesn't have a 12V input. There is a cord though with a two prong plug on one end to be able to plug it into a wall outlet. The on/off button seems to do nothing. I don't have it hooked up to an antenna, that could be a problem.
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: Ghoste on September 26, 2006, 03:55:41 AM
You would definitely need an antenna.  I suppose in the movie it was just a prop.  It wouldn't matter if it were able to hook to 12v or run on batteries or whatever.
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Post by: B5BluWhtop on October 10, 2006, 01:22:09 AM
Found some Picts.
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: rt green on October 10, 2006, 06:55:57 AM
if the route was mapped out, and ending up at the old bar, and that bar property could be rented for a day, it would be a nice cruise event
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: Charger_Fan on October 10, 2006, 01:54:18 PM
Quote from: rt green on October 10, 2006, 06:55:57 AM
if the route was mapped out, and ending up at the old bar, and that bar property could be rented for a day, it would be a nice cruise event
That's a cool idea.  :icon_smile_cool:
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Post by: Ghoste on October 10, 2006, 05:37:24 PM
Hmmm, now that might be something I'd try and make it out to Californica for. :scratchchin:
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: FastbackJon on November 20, 2006, 02:12:31 PM
Here's the train that smashed the Charger...compare for yourself...

(http://www.wplives.org/WPRM_Home/Equipment_Roster/Locomotives/STE506/ste506de.jpg)

(http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=11746.0;id=28858;image)

Crash Video: http://youtube.com/watch?v=d5tEmKbZP7k

It is at a railroad museum in California. ST&E 506, follow the link, very bottom, second in from the left.

http://www.wplives.org/WPRM_Home/Equipment_Roster/Locomotives/locomotives.html

;D
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: tan top on November 20, 2006, 03:24:34 PM
intresting  :yesnod:        good detective work  (FastbackJon )  amazing the train still survives , but none of the chargers :icon_smile_sad:
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: Ghoste on November 20, 2006, 03:36:20 PM
Well, it did fare somewhat better in the final scene.  :icon_smile_big:
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: FastbackJon on November 21, 2006, 03:52:18 PM
I wonder if there is any citron paint still left on the front of it...
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: tan top on November 21, 2006, 03:56:43 PM
Quote from: FastbackJon on November 21, 2006, 03:52:18 PM
I wonder if there is any citron paint still left on the front of it...
                  :iagree:      i was thinking the same   :yesnod:         Hmmmm... i wonder                :scope:
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: FastbackJon on December 12, 2006, 06:13:14 PM
Looks like a match on the impala...

Blue '66 Impala 4dr Hardtop on eBay (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1966-Impala-Sport-Sedan-4Dr-327-Finish-this-Restoration_W0QQitemZ180062861684QQihZ008QQcategoryZ6169QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: Ghoste on December 13, 2006, 04:37:27 AM
Wasn't it a two door in the movie?
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: tan top on December 13, 2006, 05:05:35 AM
Quote from: Ghoste on December 13, 2006, 04:37:27 AM
Wasn't it a two door in the movie?
:scratchchin:    i think it was a 4 door , will have to watch  DMCL  tonight  to check ,  :yesnod:   any excuse to watch it  ;D
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: FastbackJon on December 13, 2006, 04:22:57 PM
Four door hardtop, so it does look like a two door because of the lack of a B-pillar.
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: FastbackJon on December 19, 2006, 06:53:16 PM
Near the beginning of the movie I think Larry says to Deke something like "Do you think we should have picked the Matador instead of the Chrysler?" Wondering if anyone else picked up on that or has any idea what they are talking about.

Were they talking about picking an AMC Matador to buy instead of the Charger?
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: Ghoste on December 20, 2006, 04:42:35 AM
Yes.  At the time the movie was made (1974 was it's release), the AMC Matador was making a few small inroads at NASCAR.
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: tan top on December 20, 2006, 05:41:49 AM
Quote from: Ghoste on December 20, 2006, 04:42:35 AM
Yes.  At the time the movie was made (1974 was it's release), the AMC Matador was making a few small inroads at NASCAR.
   
                       :yesnod:   , i have got video  of  a early  70's  nascar race  , where one of the drivers ( can't think of his name ) blows the engine in his second generation charger  (  light blue / black roof ),  drives it into the pits &  goes back out in his second car a amc matador .
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: FastbackJon on February 20, 2008, 02:27:45 AM
Just found this replica on eBay, price is WAAAYYY too high though.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1969-DODGE-CHARGER_W0QQitemZ280201951987QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item280201951987

Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: tan top on February 20, 2008, 05:06:57 AM
 looking a real  nice  replica  :yesnod: :drool5:  ............................. :2thumbs:
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: Khyron on February 20, 2008, 07:10:02 AM
Quote from: FastbackJon on February 20, 2008, 02:27:45 AM
Just found this replica on eBay, price is WAAAYYY too high though.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1969-DODGE-CHARGER_W0QQitemZ280201951987QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item280201951987



heheheh i'll be keeping an eye on that  ;)

seriously though, nice car. 383 with AC. WOnder how much a 440 DMCL clone is worth. WOnder if he thins it being published will fetch it more. Thats why the price is so high.
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: TruckDriver on February 20, 2008, 07:14:31 AM
Better hang on to yours a while now Jason. Once HLPG starts putting them on ebay, they'll be at least worth 100,000 :D
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: Khyron on February 20, 2008, 07:15:14 AM
Quote from: FastbackJon on November 20, 2006, 02:12:31 PM
Here's the train that smashed the Charger...compare for yourself...

(http://www.wplives.org/WPRM_Home/Equipment_Roster/Locomotives/STE506/ste506de.jpg)

look for front end pieces on that train, I may need a new I piece  :icon_smile_wink:
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: TripleBlackGator on February 20, 2008, 09:35:51 AM
Just adding my measly  :Twocents:
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: onebadmopar on February 20, 2008, 09:40:12 PM
ive met the guy and seen that dmcl clone car in person he built it as i was building my 68 back in mid 90,s and i gotta say that car is perfect his pictures there arnt doing that car justice ......also a friend of mine had a 1969 r/t that was same as dmcl only they ditched the side stripe for the real r/t stripe and that car is super perfect he bought it from a guy that lived in colorado drove it for a few years changed a cple of minute things on it and ended up selling it  i looked into buying it but he offered it back to the guy in colorado 1st ... that was their agreement when he bought it and that guy in colorado bought it in a sec ... curious is he a member here or does anyone know him ...... i remember 1st time seeing it man was that car gorgeous
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: Khyron on February 20, 2008, 11:37:29 PM
Quote from: Wi. Charger Guy on February 20, 2008, 07:14:31 AM
Better hang on to yours a while now Jason. Once HLPG starts putting them on ebay, they'll be at least worth 100,000 :D

WHOOOHOOO! ehhehe

Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: Ghoste on February 26, 2008, 11:03:01 AM
What will HellPigs use in their ads instead of YEEEHAWWWWWW!!!!! ?
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: Khyron on February 26, 2008, 03:40:23 PM
Quote from: Ghoste on February 26, 2008, 11:03:01 AM
What will HellPigs use in their ads instead of YEEEHAWWWWWW!!!!! ?

hopefully nothing  :brickwall:
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: FastbackJon on February 27, 2008, 07:05:25 PM
That eBay DMCL Charger replica looks close but not exact. Aside from the obvious 383 4speed not being a 440 console automatic, it needs the vinyl top trim, lose the headrests, and a different steering wheel. You could argue that he should take off the rear view mirror too, but I remember seeing it briefly in a couple scenes (like in the behind shot of passing the cop car that eventually goes through the billboard).
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: FastbackJon on March 05, 2008, 01:38:30 AM
Okay, so who can find this location on google satellite maps?

http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=37.957192,-120.861969&spn=0.755792,1.2854&z=10

I've looked for quite a while around Stockton and Sonora, CA but have found nothing! It has to be there somewhere.

(http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/7029/location01cc4.th.jpg) (http://img213.imageshack.us/my.php?image=location01cc4.jpg)   (http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/931/charger09aark9.th.jpg) (http://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?image=charger09aark9.jpg)   (http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/4146/charger10aaze0.th.jpg) (http://img510.imageshack.us/my.php?image=charger10aaze0.jpg)   (http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/9479/charger11aagz0.th.jpg) (http://img509.imageshack.us/my.php?image=charger11aagz0.jpg)
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: Ghoste on March 05, 2008, 04:57:09 AM
Have you found the drawbridge yet?
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: FastbackJon on March 05, 2008, 03:49:24 PM
Yeah, almost 2 years ago, it's back on page 2 about halfway down.
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: Ghoste on March 05, 2008, 08:22:55 PM
Oh man, that's way too far back to read through again.  :lol:  Would it be logical to assume that most of the driving happened in the vicinity of the same waterway?  I've never been to the area so I have no idea how many rivers and canals are around there.
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: FastbackJon on March 05, 2008, 08:38:05 PM
Just look on the google satellite maps, you can see all the waterways and bridges. What I should do is trace the waterways that are big enough to drop a car into, and look for the bridge, the lack of trees/orchards and the buildings in the background, and use "my maps" to mark off all the locations I think it isn't.
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: FastbackJon on March 28, 2008, 05:02:21 PM
Bird's eye view of present day "Dutton Flats".
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: tan top on March 28, 2008, 07:09:50 PM
                      clear picture            good find   :yesnod:      :2thumbs:  intersting how it looks today
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: Ghoste on April 10, 2008, 11:21:05 PM
How about this one Jon, can you locate the "Fairview Motor Apartments" from the beginning of the film where Deke picks up Larry?
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: FastbackJon on April 11, 2008, 01:59:51 AM
Maybe up Fairview lane in Sonora? Would make perfect sense seeing how after you see them leave the apartments, they are driving northeast up Stockton st towards the supermarket.

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=l&hl=en&geocode=&q=&near=Fairview+Sonora,+CA&sll=38.933776,-120.509033&sspn=2.982425,5.141602&ie=UTF8&cd=1&ll=37.979243,-120.391134&spn=0.005903,0.010042&z=17
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: FastbackJon on June 12, 2008, 03:38:10 PM
What do you guys think, does this look like the "Old 99 Junction"?

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=38.017162,-121.000414&ie=UTF8&z=17&iwloc=addr

Cops were setup there and after the trick by Mary saying they were apprehended, they sped through in the Charger going west on Flood Rd?

(http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/383/old99junctionqi2.jpg)
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: Ghoste on June 12, 2008, 07:24:19 PM
Could be.  Was that also the location where the helicopter picked up Franklin or a different crossroad?
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: tan top on June 13, 2008, 04:50:03 AM
Quote from: Ghoste on June 12, 2008, 07:24:19 PM
Could be.  Was that also the location where the helicopter picked up Franklin or a different crossroad?

think that was beacons corner  :scratchchin: ........... :popcrn:

good find ( fast back Jon) looks as if it could be :yesnod:
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: FastbackJon on June 13, 2008, 02:53:23 PM
Bill's Beer, Pool, and Gas.

Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: Ghoste on June 13, 2008, 10:16:38 PM
Quote from: tan top on June 13, 2008, 04:50:03 AM
Quote from: Ghoste on June 12, 2008, 07:24:19 PM
Could be.  Was that also the location where the helicopter picked up Franklin or a different crossroad?

think that was beacons corner 

Yeah, but those are all fictional names, did the same corner serve both "locations" is my actual question.  Looks like I'm just going to be forced to watch it again huh?
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: 440AirForce on June 13, 2008, 11:59:03 PM
Check this out. Look familiar? (Select the 360 arrow)

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=37.09024,-95.712891&spn=47.167389,92.8125&z=4&om=1&layer=c&utm_campaign=en&utm_source=en-ha-na-us-google-svn&utm_mediu
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: tan top on June 14, 2008, 02:15:05 AM
Quote from: Ghoste on June 13, 2008, 10:16:38 PM
Quote from: tan top on June 13, 2008, 04:50:03 AM
Quote from: Ghoste on June 12, 2008, 07:24:19 PM
Could be.  Was that also the location where the helicopter picked up Franklin or a different crossroad?

think that was beacons corner 

Yeah, but those are all fictional names, did the same corner serve both "locations" is my actual question.  Looks like I'm just going to be forced to watch it again huh?
   

:yesnod:  oh yeah of course thats true...... did not think , forget sometimes it was actualy a movie  :rotz:  ;D  ........ yep me too going to have a to watch it again later .....  :popcrn:  ....
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: FastbackJon on September 19, 2008, 06:13:32 PM
Looks like the movie car!

http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/cto/844644124.html

(http://images.craigslist.org/1f112c1g6ZZZZZZZZZ89he6b8d4f2e0611e57.jpg)
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: Ghoste on September 19, 2008, 06:53:34 PM
You mean looks similar.  Wasn't it a 67 Bel Air in the flick?  (yeah, yeah splitting hairs but...)
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: FastbackJon on September 19, 2008, 10:29:23 PM
Yes, looks very similar. Movie car might have been a little darker blue though, but same year, make, model, engine, and body style (4 door hardtop).

Cop doesn't say '66 Chevy though, he says '67 or '68, the wrong year.
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: model maker on December 29, 2008, 12:12:02 AM
Hi I just joined this group after finding it while doing a search for my old 69 charger. I worked on film crews as a dolly grip and later had a recurring role on the streets of san francisco. While working on streets in 1975 I was able to purchase  the only surviving 69 charger from DMCL from the motor poole we used to share vehicles. I had body work done to make the car drivable but my soon to be ex wife totaled it. before she did this however, I got a location schedule for DMCL and cross refrenced it with the filming location permits and found ALL of the locations used in the movie. The locations talked about here are correct (great work ) The pool hall/gas station we went to  in the charger and parked in the rear just as they did in the movie. we sure did get some looks from the locals driving through town ( Linden, Calif.) we have just moved to our new home and during the move, I FOUND MY PICTURES OF MY 69 CHARGER can I post the pictures here from my computers picture folder  like I do in my other forums i belong to or, do they need to be hosted somewhere else ? I found  a thread here that was quoting me from the IMDB web site, so I joined here. on our trip to stockton, Linden etc., it was me, my soon to be EX wife, and my best friend. we also went to the drive in to see DMCL in the charger and you can imagine the double takes and looks we got.
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: Ghoste on December 29, 2008, 12:18:46 AM
You sure can post them here!!  Just resize them to be 200kb or less and try that.
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: RallyeMike on December 29, 2008, 01:24:52 AM
QuoteHi I just joined this group after finding it while doing a search for my old 69 charger. I worked on film crews as a dolly grip and later had a recurring role on the streets of san francisco. While working on streets in 1975 I was able to purchase  the only surviving 69 charger from DMCL from the motor poole we used to share vehicles. I had body work done to make the car drivable but my soon to be ex wife totaled it. before she did this however, I got a location schedule for DMCL and cross refrenced it with the filming location permits and found ALL of the locations used in the movie. The locations talked about here are correct (great work ) The pool hall/gas station we went to  in the charger and parked in the rear just as they did in the movie. we sure did get some looks from the locals driving through town ( Linden, Calif.) we have just moved to our new home and during the move, I FOUND MY PICTURES OF MY 69 CHARGER can I post the pictures here from my computers picture folder  like I do in my other forums i belong to or, do they need to be hosted somewhere else ? I found  a thread here that was quoting me from the IMDB web site, so I joined here. on our trip to stockton, Linden etc., it was me, my soon to be EX wife, and my best friend. we also went to the drive in to see DMCL in the charger and you can imagine the double takes and looks we got.

Wow. Welcome aboard. I'll be keeping an eye out for those pics!!!!
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: tan top on December 29, 2008, 05:30:35 AM
Quote from: model maker on December 29, 2008, 12:12:02 AM
Hi I just joined this group after finding it while doing a search for my old 69 charger. I worked on film crews as a dolly grip and later had a recurring role on the streets of san francisco. While working on streets in 1975 I was able to purchase  the only surviving 69 charger from DMCL from the motor poole we used to share vehicles. I had body work done to make the car drivable but my soon to be ex wife totaled it. before she did this however, I got a location schedule for DMCL and cross refrenced it with the filming location permits and found ALL of the locations used in the movie. The locations talked about here are correct (great work ) The pool hall/gas station we went to  in the charger and parked in the rear just as they did in the movie. we sure did get some looks from the locals driving through town ( Linden, Calif.) we have just moved to our new home and during the move, I FOUND MY PICTURES OF MY 69 CHARGER can I post the pictures here from my computers picture folder  like I do in my other forums i belong to or, do they need to be hosted somewhere else ? I found  a thread here that was quoting me from the IMDB web site, so I joined here. on our trip to stockton, Linden etc., it was me, my soon to be EX wife, and my best friend. we also went to the drive in to see DMCL in the charger and you can imagine the double takes and looks we got.


hello & welcome  Bert    :cheers: .............. looking forward to seeing your pictures   :yesnod: :popcrn:
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: mikepmcs on December 29, 2008, 05:45:45 AM
Welcome aboard! :cheers: :wave:

let's see them pics mister.

Mike
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: TheGhost on December 29, 2008, 04:10:23 PM
Quote from: FastbackJon on September 19, 2008, 10:29:23 PM
Yes, looks very similar. Movie car might have been a little darker blue though, but same year, make, model, engine, and body style (4 door hardtop).

Cop doesn't say '66 Chevy though, he says '67 or '68, the wrong year.

The car had Impala badges in the movie.  You can see them when they're repairing the car in the barn.
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: model maker on December 29, 2008, 10:52:50 PM
Ok here they are, i hope they post if not, can I e mail them to someone to post for me ? I had trouble with the first attempt,  it said it already posted but i don't see anything yet, this is the 2nd attempt. Ok it says my file is too large, who can I e mail these to ?      I KEEP GETTING THIS MESSAGE>>>>    You already submitted this post! You might have accidently double clicked, or tried to refresh.
Bert
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: 1RareBird on December 29, 2008, 11:52:00 PM
I can't help you with posting of the pictures but I'm sure everyone want's to know what happened to the car after your ex-wife totalled it?  No need to explain WHY she's your ex. I would have divorced her too for doing that to my car. ;)
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: Ghoste on December 30, 2008, 01:19:29 AM
Quote from: TheGhost on December 29, 2008, 04:10:23 PM
Quote from: FastbackJon on September 19, 2008, 10:29:23 PM
Yes, looks very similar. Movie car might have been a little darker blue though, but same year, make, model, engine, and body style (4 door hardtop).

Cop doesn't say '66 Chevy though, he says '67 or '68, the wrong year.

The car had Impala badges in the movie.  You can see them when they're repairing the car in the barn.

Yes, I watched it again this weekend and it definitely says Impala and 327 on the fender in the barn.  It also looks to me like the drivers side exterior mirror changes too so I'm thinking there were at least two Chevys.
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: model maker on December 30, 2008, 02:40:51 AM
I went through with the divorce because she cheated BIG TIME and in the process, she stripped my bank account of everything but $10. turns out she wasn't paying the bills for a long while and threw the late letters in the dumpster. I let the wrecked car go for next to nothing because i was severly depressed i guess, I can just KICK myself for doing that with everything going on at the time I just didn't care, i bought a 72 ford pickup and have been driving trucks ever since, BUT I WANT ANOTHER 69 SO BAD I can't stand it. I was sitting in one ( yellow with black top/ R/T tail stripe 440 6 Pac with factory tri-power $50,000.00 which I don't have, but it is in an enclosed showroom and i go to visit it often. back in 1977 these cars were a dime a dozen, then the DUKES destroyed too many. back then $850.00 could buy you a GREAT Charger everyday. So you guys that have them are VERY lucky and I envy you !!!!
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: FastbackJon on December 30, 2008, 03:43:35 AM
Others may have seen this, but Bert might be interested... another thread on the Chargers used in the film.

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,39803.msg438564/topicseen.html#msg438564
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: model maker on December 30, 2008, 04:17:45 AM
Yep, seen it and i am even quoted in it. I can't believe i let that car go, back then, they were so easy to get, i regret it so much that it really HURTS, i kick myself everyday all day.
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: mikepmcs on December 30, 2008, 05:28:42 AM
Quote from: model maker on December 29, 2008, 10:52:50 PM
Ok here they are, i hope they post if not, can I e mail them to someone to post for me ? I had trouble with the first attempt,  it said it already posted but i don't see anything yet, this is the 2nd attempt. Ok it says my file is too large, who can I e mail these to ?      I KEEP GETTING THIS MESSAGE>>>>    You already submitted this post! You might have accidently double clicked, or tried to refresh.
Bert

email them to me at mikepmcs@yahoo.com.  i'll resize/rename them and post em up. :2thumbs:

v/r
Mike
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: model maker on December 30, 2008, 11:32:31 AM
Here is a DMCL model building topic over at HobbyTalk where I am a member. A guy has made a scale model of the charger
http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/showthread.php?p=2642215#post2642215post2642215
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: Ghoste on December 30, 2008, 11:36:43 AM
Thats cool too, I wrote ERTL a few years back trying to cajole them into doing a DMCL Charger but they weren't too interested.
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: tan top on December 30, 2008, 11:56:57 AM
was looking  on the net for DMCL stuff ..found this  :yesnod:  not sure if its been posted before  :scratchchin:

http://entertainment.webshots.com/photo/2601266830053452979RfEZgW
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: C_stripes on December 30, 2008, 12:20:19 PM
I will have the pics up in just a few minuets Bert.  Later,  Jeremy
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: Ghoste on December 30, 2008, 12:21:50 PM
Cool, they found the location for the drawbridge scene.
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: Ghoste on December 30, 2008, 12:29:03 PM
Quote from: mikepmcs on December 30, 2008, 05:28:42 AM
Quote from: model maker on December 29, 2008, 10:52:50 PM
Ok here they are, i hope they post if not, can I e mail them to someone to post for me ? I had trouble with the first attempt,  it said it already posted but i don't see anything yet, this is the 2nd attempt. Ok it says my file is too large, who can I e mail these to ?      I KEEP GETTING THIS MESSAGE>>>>    You already submitted this post! You might have accidently double clicked, or tried to refresh.
Bert

email them to me at mikepmcs@yahoo.com.  i'll resize/rename them and post em up. :2thumbs:

v/r
Mike

They're up in the Dirty Mary Crazy Larry 1969 Charger thread; enjoy.  :cheers:
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: C_stripes on December 30, 2008, 12:33:16 PM
Looks like you beat me to it.  Great pics.  Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: FastbackJon on December 30, 2008, 02:12:28 PM
I'll make a link to that thread too....

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,52052.0.html
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: FastbackJon on December 30, 2008, 02:26:57 PM
Quote from: Ghoste on December 30, 2008, 12:21:50 PM
Cool, they found the location for the drawbridge scene.

Drawbridge is referenced (found) on this thread on page 2... the pictures from that webshots album appeared after this thread had located the scenes, so I don't doubt he's either a member or he found the thread.
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: AKcharger on December 30, 2008, 02:28:52 PM
WOW, lot of good detective work here! I'm not a super DMCL fan but liked the show...keep up the good work guys!!
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: Ghoste on December 30, 2008, 02:29:04 PM
Oh I forgot, I thought the drawbridge still hadn't been found.  What sites are still unaccounted for then, any?
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: FastbackJon on December 30, 2008, 03:37:09 PM
I spent a good couple hours looking on the map for the bridge where the cop goes into the water, couldn't find anything that resembled it. Screenshots are on one of the pages. Also don't think we've found the barn where the Impala was fixed. Wasn't even sure where to start looking for that one.
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: Ghoste on December 30, 2008, 05:09:06 PM
Sailing cop, repair barn and ranger lookout tower.  Howzat?
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: model maker on December 30, 2008, 09:42:25 PM
I just got through watching the movie again and man,  I am just about sick to my stomach for letting her slip through my hands ( my Charger not the charger killer lol ) I also transferred the audio portion of the DVD onto audio CD so I can listen to the entire movie in stereo in my trucks CD player, I did the same thing with Vanishing point. I picked up the Vanishing point music soundtrack CD and ripped it to my computer, then burned a very long playing CD with the program. I keep these in my truck so when I am cruising, i can listen to the DMCL movie or the VP soundtrack. people passing me or is it ME passing them ,must wonder while i am smiling :2thumbs:
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: Khyron on December 30, 2008, 10:21:28 PM
Quote from: model maker on December 30, 2008, 11:32:31 AM
Here is a DMCL model building topic over at HobbyTalk where I am a member. A guy has made a scale model of the charger
http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/showthread.php?p=2642215#post2642215post2642215

I have a 1:1 scale model :D
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: Ghoste on December 31, 2008, 01:00:45 AM
On a somewhat related and coincidental note, a good friend of mine dropped off a Christmas gift for me today to hang in my garage.  It sure beats the 8 cans of imported Czech beer I gave him.
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: Khyron on December 31, 2008, 11:19:32 PM
 :o
where did he get that!
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: Ghoste on January 01, 2009, 12:33:47 AM
Stole it from a sign pole in front of some old barn where they were holding a flea market he said.  :shruggy:

Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: model maker on January 01, 2009, 01:30:22 AM
the place looks the same kind of. they filmed in several arears with a 1 filming unit and traveled about 40 miles from the hotel in every direction and found these spots that are still there IF YOU LOOK HARD ENOUGH !! HAPPY NEW YEAR !!!
BERT :cheers: :2thumbs:
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: model maker on January 01, 2009, 01:32:15 AM
HAPPY NEW YEAR, I FOound this on here and wanted to share, sorry for the caps, celebrating already credit to who posted this originally
bert
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AFguRNG7-o
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: WINGR on January 01, 2009, 03:07:15 AM
Thanks and Happy New Year to you as well. Thanks also for sharing the pics of your old DMCL Charger, there are many of us that would have just loved to own that fine machine.

WINGR
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: model maker on January 01, 2009, 04:37:21 AM
 I realize now that  if i would have thought forward 30 years i would never have just given her away like i did, someone got it from the dealership that took it, and never knew what they got, it may still be out there, i would like to see it again if i did, i would just know it was the right charger just by sitting in it. a famous car returned to everyday status. who knows, one of the members here just might own it and not realize it. someone has it if it is still on the road.
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: tan top on January 01, 2009, 06:26:32 AM
Quote from: Ghoste on December 30, 2008, 12:21:50 PM
Cool, they found the location for the drawbridge scene.


found this ...heres  the link , but its the only picture 


http://flickr.com/photos/62133034@N00/1927099804
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: Hemidoug on January 01, 2009, 07:44:59 AM
Quote from: model maker on January 01, 2009, 04:37:21 AM
I realize now that  if i would have thought forward 30 years i would never have just given her away like i did, someone got it from the dealership that took it, and never knew what they got, it may still be out there, i would like to see it again if i did, i would just know it was the right charger just by sitting in it. a famous car returned to everyday status. who knows, one of the members here just might own it and not realize it. someone has it if it is still on the road.

Need the VIN! If we had the VIN we could try to find it.... :icon_smile_big:
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: Ghoste on January 01, 2009, 01:09:40 PM
Bert, any idea on where the canal is that they pushed the cop into?
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: model maker on January 02, 2009, 02:40:47 AM
GHOSTI,  I am pretty sure it was along  eight mile road, We cruised through the walnut groves and it was me, my buddy paul, and  pre charger killer. We drove into downtown Linden  and pulled into BILLS bar/grill  where they filmed the pool game. when we were there we parked the charger in the back and my charger is the VERY one that you see going through town and pulling into Bills and parking in the back, we did the same thing. The scenes I know for sure it was in were a lot of the interior shots, the cruise into linden, filling up and pulling the Gas hose off of the gas pump. There was a deep  scratch  along the filler cap so i assume thats what caused it.My car is the one where they ran though the old hwy 99 junction when the big roadblock broke up. The location schedule mentioned  several locations on eight mile road, Do you remember when larry was "bustin out"                  and dekes says " YOU DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT ROAD CONDITIONS FOR THIS KIND OF DRIVING !!! larrys says "TOUGH"     BUMP and they hit the big bump across the road ? well, we found that bump and if you watch the scene, they hit it a little later since they were going up and down and all around in those walnut groves. I would like to spend about 2 days out there to take my time and look around, part of HWY 88 is close to me here in nevada.
Bert
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: gordo1968charger on January 02, 2009, 05:12:42 AM
heres me thinking i m the only DMCL geek!
hoping to go to california next year for my 40th,take in the grand canyon etc,would be good to drive along the roads in DMCL and take some pics
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: tan top on January 02, 2009, 06:00:32 AM
 intresting stuff Bert  :yesnod:  ..would love to drive them roads my self some day  :coolgleamA:
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: Ghoste on January 02, 2009, 11:44:19 AM
We need some sort of comprehensive map like the Bullitt freaks have used when going to San Fran.
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: gordo1968charger on January 05, 2009, 02:39:14 PM
true that
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: TruckDriver on March 09, 2009, 01:04:35 PM
Check out this DMCL clone on Ebag

CLICK HERE (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-Trucks___1969-DODGE-CHARGER-R-T-RARE_W0QQitemZ290301548576QQddnZCarsQ20Q26Q20TrucksQQddiZ2282QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash=item290301548576&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=65%3A7%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1308)

(http://i5.ebayimg.com/04/i/001/38/81/6d75_12.JPG)
(http://i20.ebayimg.com/02/i/001/38/81/b87a_12.JPG)
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: Ghoste on March 09, 2009, 01:16:31 PM
Hole in the roof.
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: THE CHARGER PUNK on March 09, 2009, 03:26:10 PM
Quoteand pulling the Gas hose off of the gas pump. There was a deep  scratch  along the filler cap so i assume thats what caused it


If you watch close u can see the ''charger'' emblem painted black in that scene indicating the base 69 used :yesnod:
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: Khyron on March 09, 2009, 03:48:53 PM
Quote from: Wi. Charger Guy on March 09, 2009, 01:04:35 PM
Check out this DMCL clone on Ebag

CLICK HERE (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-Trucks___1969-DODGE-CHARGER-R-T-RARE_W0QQitemZ290301548576QQddnZCarsQ20Q26Q20TrucksQQddiZ2282QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash=item290301548576&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=65%3A7%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1308)


wow.... needs a bit of TLC. Side markers sealed... Was this a GL at one point? Or do you guys think the quarters are reskinned?
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: squeakfinder on March 09, 2009, 05:40:04 PM

Sun roof car.  :scratchchin: I guess it must have seemed like good idea at the time to screw it up with that piece of plexi glass.



         
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: squeakfinder on March 09, 2009, 05:42:11 PM

Maybee somebody can decipher that fender tag.
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: 69bronzeT5 on March 09, 2009, 05:54:22 PM
I want this car so bad. It has all of my favorite options!

E86 440-4 Barrel High Preformance
D32 H-D A-727 TorqueFlite Trans / Some Years A-998
XS29 X = Dodge Charger
S = Special
29 = 2 Door Sports Hardtop
L9B L = 440 375HP 1-4BBL 8 CYL
9 = 1969
B = Dodge Main, Hamtramck, MI, USA
373253 Sequence Number '373253'
V2 Paint Code: Unknown At This Time
C6X Trim Grade/Style/Color
C = Charger
6 = Vinyl Bucket Seats
X = Black
X9 Upper Door Frame: Unknown At This Time
513 Date Built: 5 / 13 / 1969
928339 Order Number: 928339
B51 Roof Type OR Color:  Power Assisted Brakes
C21 Center Seat Foldown Armrest
C55 Bucket Seats
G11 Tinted Glass All
G31 Right Hand Outside Mirror - Manual / Chrome
V2 Unknown At This Time
R51 Unknown At This Time
J25 3 Speed Variable Wipers
L31 Hood / Fender Mount Turn Signal
M21 Roof Drip Rail Moldings
M25 Wide Sill Molding
A01 Light Package
M91 Luggage Rack Deck Lid
N88 Auto Speed Control
P31 Power Windows
R22 AM w/ 8-Track
C33 Unknown At This Time
V21 Performance Hood Treatment
V6X Black Longitude Sports Stripe
26 26 in. Radiator
END End of Codes
M31 Belt Molding 69-70
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: model maker on March 10, 2009, 02:43:11 AM
Thats a pretty good copy of the DMCL Charger, and the stripe is correct in dimensions all the way down to the tip. That sun roof crap is another story, whoever did THAT needs to have their head examined ! :brickwall: It must have leaked a lot with all the rust on the roof panel. In looking at the pictures, IT is orange and looks like a GL that BK may have made and the paint blew off at 55 MPH  :smilielol: That car will need a lot of TLC and it makes you wonder what the frame rails & floor pans look like With the rusty roof looking like it does.
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: FastbackJon on March 13, 2009, 12:00:53 AM
V2 is Hemi Orange, doesn't have anything to do with a GL. Same color as EV2 in 1970. E just means that the color first appeared in 1969. Something like this originally:

(http://www.dannywhitfield.com/images/ITEM_10-G-15_1969_DODGE_CHARGER_RT_Orange-Black_top_copy.jpg)

Cool car though other than the sunroof. With that removed, the right exhaust tips, front seats, and steering wheel it might look like one of the actual cars from the movie that has just been sitting around all this time.

Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: Ghoste on March 13, 2009, 12:03:57 AM
Still under debate though is whether or not it's a factory sunroof car.  If it is, you'd want to get that aftermarket thing out of the way and put the correct one back in.  In that case it wouldn't look like a DMCL Charger.
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: FastbackJon on April 24, 2009, 06:59:56 PM
Quote from: Ghoste on April 10, 2008, 11:21:05 PM
How about this one Jon, can you locate the "Fairview Motor Apartments" from the beginning of the film where Deke picks up Larry?

Is this it? Square whiteish building in the center background. I don't have the dvd or any screen caps at the moment to compare.

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=sonora,+ca&sll=44.422134,-124.072723&sspn=0.057622,0.104713&g=waldport,+or&ie=UTF8&ll=37.978718,-120.391166&spn=0.007949,0.013089&z=17&layer=c&cbll=37.978785,-120.391253&panoid=mcvMzZqmnWLDMb0CrsgtTQ&cbp=12,286.7750270420892,,1,-0.017075730011174295

Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: FastbackJon on April 25, 2009, 01:52:59 AM
Quote from: FastbackJon on April 24, 2009, 06:59:56 PM
Quote from: Ghoste on April 10, 2008, 11:21:05 PM
How about this one Jon, can you locate the "Fairview Motor Apartments" from the beginning of the film where Deke picks up Larry?

Is this it? Square whiteish building in the center background. I don't have the dvd or any screen caps at the moment to compare.

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=sonora,+ca&sll=44.422134,-124.072723&sspn=0.057622,0.104713&g=waldport,+or&ie=UTF8&ll=37.978718,-120.391166&spn=0.007949,0.013089&z=17&layer=c&cbll=37.978785,-120.391253&panoid=mcvMzZqmnWLDMb0CrsgtTQ&cbp=12,286.7750270420892,,1,-0.017075730011174295



Got home and checked the DVD.... same place!  You can see the windows and door still in the same location.

(http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/9329/fairviewapts.th.jpg) (http://img527.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fairviewapts.jpg)
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: .45-70 on October 22, 2009, 02:45:55 AM
This has been one GREAT read guys!!!  I've driven past a number of these places over the years thinking that they looked right, but now I know for sure. 

I've been in a funk lately because I may have to sell my DMCL Charger.  Maybe I'll put on a denim shirt and take a drive out there and re-think this a bit.  The central valley is a great place to take a drive and clear your head.....especially in a Charger.
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: mikepmcs on October 22, 2009, 05:31:30 AM
Welcome aboard!  I hope you can keep your car.  I know where you are coming from so hang in there and enjoy your ride. Hoping things work out for you.
:icon_smile_big:

Mike
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: tan top on October 22, 2009, 08:42:27 AM
Quote from: .45-70 on October 22, 2009, 02:45:55 AM
This has been one GREAT read guys!!!  I've driven past a number of these places over the years thinking that they looked right, but now I know for sure. 

I've been in a funk lately because I may have to sell my DMCL Charger.  Maybe I'll put on a denim shirt and take a drive out there and re-think this a bit.  The central valley is a great place to take a drive and clear your head.....especially in a Charger.

hello & welcome :cheers:    you have a DMCL charger  :coolgleamA:  sour would love to see some pictures sometime  :popcrn: :2thumbs:
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: .45-70 on October 22, 2009, 12:20:53 PM
OK...Here's a try at posting a couple pictures of my car.


Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: moparstuart on October 22, 2009, 12:45:12 PM
very nice   :drool5: :drool5: :drool5: :drool5:
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: moparstuart on October 22, 2009, 12:46:49 PM
Quote from: .45-70 on October 22, 2009, 02:45:55 AM
This has been one GREAT read guys!!!  I've driven past a number of these places over the years thinking that they looked right, but now I know for sure. 

I've been in a funk lately because I may have to sell my DMCL Charger.  Maybe I'll put on a denim shirt and take a drive out there and re-think this a bit.  The central valley is a great place to take a drive and clear your head.....especially in a Charger.
watch out for trains   :smilielol:
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: Khyron on October 22, 2009, 02:00:50 PM
wow, how did U slip by me? :-) Nice car, and welcome to the board...
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: squeakfinder on October 22, 2009, 08:55:11 PM

Been a member for 4 years and now you post?  :poke: :lol:

Just kidding really, thanks for posting the pictures.
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: tan top on October 23, 2009, 05:23:07 AM
Quote from: .45-70 on October 22, 2009, 12:20:53 PM
OK...Here's a try at posting a couple pictures of my car.




nice  looking charger  :drool5:  :coolgleamA: :2thumbs:
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: .45-70 on October 23, 2009, 11:05:54 AM
Quote from: squeakfinder on October 22, 2009, 08:55:11 PM

Been a member for 4 years and now you post?  :poke: :lol:

Just kidding really, thanks for posting the pictures.


Yep.....I posted on the old forum a number of times and then somehow lost it when they revamped things a couple years ago.  Honestly, I just stumbled on here again and was surprised that it had my e-mail as being registered.

Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: FastbackJon on February 01, 2012, 04:55:16 AM
To go along with the 10 or so locations we've found in this thread above, I'm still looking for this location below. I found a few locations that looked similar but nothing exact. Of course the dirt road could have been removed by now.

(http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=11746.0;attach=18654;image)

Also I spent some time looking for the "NO FISHING FROM BRIDGE" location where the cop car goes in the water, but that was a while back, before all these fancy google street view images. I think I remember a frontage road to the water in the movie like this?

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=37.957192,-120.861969&ie=UTF8&ll=37.964745,-121.14855&spn=0.02524,0.066047&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&hnear=0x80908ae012c46d17:0x81c118a3ffb87392,%2B37%C2%B0+57%27+14.03%22,+-120%C2%B0+51%27+4.56%22&gl=us&t=m&z=15&layer=c&cbll=37.964745,-121.14855&panoid=umwVs8c3WskSUeOms7accA&cbp=12,82.16,,0,15.85

I also once spent some time looking for the watchtower where the cop sees the Impala. I tried to get the phone number off of the phone he picks up, or at least read what it says, with no luck. Maybe with Blu-Ray?
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: jwramc on February 01, 2012, 08:19:38 AM
The dirt siding begins here on Blossom Road at Beaver Slough, just SW of Thornton, CA,:
38°11'37.35"N 121°26'49.38"W and ends at the new bridge (and same old tree) here:  38°12'14.15"N 121°26'48.69"W .
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: Ghoste on February 01, 2012, 09:51:14 AM
How large an area do these locations represent in total.  More to the point, is it practical to try and arrange a DMCL fan cruise through the region in the next year or two or is this one of those things best explored solo?
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: jwramc on February 01, 2012, 10:01:37 AM
Everything is located within an hour of the center of Linden, with 75% of it within 15 minutes. The outer most spots are (eastward) Sonora, CA for Mary's apt, Save Mart and the hostage house, then Tracy, CA (southwest) for the drawbridge, and Thornton, CA (northwest) for the 'good sailor' dunk.

The rest is in and around Linden, Clements and Farmingdale.

To tour the whole list in the order they appear in the film would take days. But planned out well, starting out in Sonora, then to Farmingdale, north into Linden, northeast toward Rancho Calaveras, northwest to Clements, west to Thornton, south to Stockton (to see the train, if still in storage) then finally Tracy... it can be done in a long day.

The attached pic shows the largest cluster of locations in Linden.
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: Ghoste on February 01, 2012, 10:03:05 AM
Easily do-able for a days worth of sightseeing then.
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: FastbackJon on February 01, 2012, 01:05:51 PM
I have a different location down as the possible Old 99 Junction Roadblock than what I see in the map two posts up... I could be wrong though. But it does look quite a bit less built up than the one on your map. And the road curve seems closer too.

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,11746.msg495016.html#msg495016
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: jwramc on February 01, 2012, 01:10:33 PM
Quote from: 440AirForce on June 13, 2008, 11:59:03 PM
Check this out. Look familiar? (Select the 360 arrow)

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=37.09024,-95.712891&spn=47.167389,92.8125&z=4&om=1&layer=c&utm_campaign=en&utm_source=en-ha-na-us-google-svn&utm_mediu


Your link got cut off.
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: jwramc on February 01, 2012, 01:13:30 PM
Quote from: FastbackJon on February 01, 2012, 01:05:51 PM
I have a different location down as the possible Old 99 Junction Roadblock than what I see in the map two posts up... I could be wrong though. But it does look quite a bit less built up than the one on your map. And the road curve seems closer too.

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,11746.msg495016.html#msg495016


Yes, YEs...YES! Great find!! The one I specified only looked close, but that long, soft curve rather than my straight with a tighter curve is MUCH better...and that dirt road running parallel is the one that was gated long ago. Awesome correction! :2thumbs:
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: nvrbdn on February 01, 2012, 01:32:24 PM
someone had a link in here somewhere that went to youtube where the revisited alot of the places in the movie.it was pretty cool. i cant go to youtube on the work comp or id search for it.
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: jwramc on February 01, 2012, 01:39:50 PM
That was me, from 2010. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86lkQRishGA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-svRwV_laDA
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: jwramc on February 01, 2012, 01:45:57 PM
Test Post (to see if long links get screwed up). (UPDATE: They work for me. I'll post my full list when finished).

Known Locations List for Dirty Mary Crazy Larry (1974)

Fairview Apartments (Mary's Place), Sonora, CA
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Sonora,+CA&hl=en&ll=37.978841,-120.391005&spn=0.002199,0.00273&sll=38.02301,-121.077919&sspn=0.035497,0.043688&oq=sonora&hnear=Sonora,+Tuolumne,+California&t=h&z=18&layer=c&cbll=37.978913,-120.391103&panoid=mcvMzZqmnWLDMb0CrsgtTQ&cbp=12,281.59,,0,-0.33
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: FastbackJon on February 01, 2012, 02:08:55 PM
Quote from: jwramc on February 01, 2012, 01:10:33 PM
Quote from: 440AirForce on June 13, 2008, 11:59:03 PM
Check this out. Look familiar? (Select the 360 arrow)

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=37.09024,-95.712891&spn=47.167389,92.8125&z=4&om=1&layer=c&utm_campaign=en&utm_source=en-ha-na-us-google-svn&utm_mediu


Your link got cut off.

You can pull the coordinates out of the url. The url is made up of a bunch of variables near the end, each one starting with the "&" so look for "&ll=" which is the lat/long coordinates. We see he's referencing these coordinates: 37.09024,-95.712891 which is a "Brooks Brothers" business between a couple lakes in southeast Kansas.

I'm reminded of the big lake at the beginning of the film, which I've also tried to find, but I don't think that's it, and I don't recognize it.

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=37.09024,-95.712891&hl=en&ll=37.089812,-95.712848&spn=0.006581,0.013937&sll=37.09024,-95.712891&sspn=52.68309,114.169922&t=h&z=17
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: FastbackJon on February 01, 2012, 02:14:15 PM
I spent some time looking for the farm where they fix the impala, with no luck.
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: FastbackJon on February 01, 2012, 02:19:39 PM
I was also curious to what this song was that was on the radio when Mary was rocking out. Ba-ba-bu-bom-pa-bom-bom or something like that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhtXYhTcYIs&t=2m24s
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: jwramc on February 01, 2012, 02:46:50 PM
Somewhere in my notes is a throw-away, general reference to the area the farm is in...but I'll have to dig that up. As dilapidated as it was in 1973, I doubt the barn is still there very much.
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: jwramc on February 01, 2012, 02:48:55 PM
OK, here's the full list of locations I have. If you have any I don't, DO let me know so I can update this post and my list.

Map of known locations: http://thepatrickmiracle.net/DMCL/DMCLmap01s2.gif

List of known Locations List for Dirty Mary Crazy Larry (1974)

Fairview Apartments (Mary's Place), Sonora, CA
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Sonora,+CA&hl=en&ll=37.978841,-120.391005&spn=0.002199,0.00273&sll=38.02301,-121.077919&sspn=0.035497,0.043688&oq=sonora&hnear=Sonora,+Tuolumne,+California&t=h&z=18&layer=c&cbll=37.978913,-120.391103&panoid=mcvMzZqmnWLDMb0CrsgtTQ&cbp=12,281.59,,0,-0.33

Approaching Save Mart, Sonora, CA
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Sonora,+CA&hl=en&ll=37.98219,-120.38695&spn=0.00222,0.00273&sll=38.02301,-121.077919&sspn=0.035497,0.043688&oq=sonora&hnear=Sonora,+Tuolumne,+California&t=h&layer=c&cbll=37.982354,-120.386529&panoid=g7XIoihRB-pePwHB0vgnfg&cbp=12,36.37,,0,-13.16&z=18

Save Mart, Sonora, CA
NOTE: This location used only for the front exterior. Scenes inside and behind the market (Mary in the Impala) and the dozer-ramp stunt were NOT filmed here.
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Sonora,+CA&hl=en&ll=37.982828,-120.384488&spn=0.00222,0.00273&sll=38.02301,-121.077919&sspn=0.035497,0.043688&oq=sonora&hnear=Sonora,+Tuolumne,+California&t=h&layer=c&cbll=37.982803,-120.384592&panoid=sTFcBKqtuJUpGktd4XJo2Q&cbp=12,24.68,,0,-5.78&z=18

Deke Dropped-Off at Hostage House
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Barretta+Street,+Sonora,+CA&hl=en&ll=37.983651,-120.380488&spn=0.001099,0.001365&sll=37.982803,-120.384589&sspn=0.00222,0.00273&oq=barrettaSonora,+CA&hnear=Barretta+St,+Sonora,+California&t=h&z=19

Impala turns, cutting off the bus
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=38.017162,-121.000414&hl=en&ll=38.094258,-120.944903&spn=0.004391,0.005461&t=h&z=17&layer=c&cbll=38.094441,-120.944904&panoid=WzQTGfuite3XYu91JYG3DQ&cbp=12,22.88,,0,0.84

View through Ranger's binoculars (not actually at lookout station)
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=linden+ca&hl=en&ll=38.080156,-120.963335&spn=0.008867,0.010922&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=36.178967,44.736328&hnear=Linden,+San+Joaquin,+California&t=h&layer=c&cbll=38.080354,-120.963341&panoid=HYpFJ1Y0KUXxjaYGg4SXqA&cbp=12,11.19,,0,-7.39&z=16

Looking back at Impala approaching General Store.
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=farmington+ca&hl=en&ll=37.93005,-121.000285&spn=0.017602,0.021844&sll=38.080359,-120.963335&sspn=0.008867,0.010922&hnear=Farmington,+San+Joaquin,+California&t=h&z=15&layer=c&cbll=37.930145,-121.000205&panoid=6D8lfUTL7hIGUs7s6dyM0g&cbp=12,355.7,,0,-10.33

General Store
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=farmington+ca&hl=en&ll=37.93005,-121.000285&spn=0.017602,0.021844&sll=38.080359,-120.963335&sspn=0.008867,0.010922&hnear=Farmington,+San+Joaquin,+California&t=h&z=15&layer=c&cbll=37.930145,-121.000205&panoid=6D8lfUTL7hIGUs7s6dyM0g&cbp=12,145.22,,0,0.28

Rollercoaster Chase (note the flat-top mountain on the horizon, left of the road)
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=linden+ca&hl=en&ll=38.125611,-120.944881&spn=0.017724,0.021844&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=36.178967,44.736328&hnear=Linden,+San+Joaquin,+California&t=h&layer=c&cbll=38.126176,-120.944868&panoid=wxTAckiuWL0oGur75tWKww&cbp=12,0,,0,0&z=15

Drawbridge
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=tracy+ca&hl=en&ll=37.819404,-121.449705&spn=0.004407,0.005461&sll=38.126185,-120.944881&sspn=0.017724,0.021844&hnear=Tracy,+San+Joaquin,+California&t=h&z=17&layer=c&cbll=37.819692,-121.449702&panoid=qMLEL_rzidlw-3lj1wtaqw&cbp=12,356.68,,0,6.76

Franklin boards the helicopter
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Copperopolis+Rd,+San+Joaquin,+California&hl=en&ll=37.972942,-120.999615&spn=0.002199,0.00273&sll=37.820158,-121.449705&sspn=0.004449,0.005461&geocode=FQtuQwId7u_J-A&hnear=Copperopolis+Rd,+San+Joaquin,+California&t=h&z=18&layer=c&cbll=37.973312,-120.999616&panoid=VTTyolGQt7GFrIqZDps-EQ&cbp=12,323.26,,0,14.11

Dutton Flats flea market
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=clements,+California&hl=en&ll=38.191822,-121.083852&spn=0.002192,0.00273&sll=37.973314,-120.999615&sspn=0.00222,0.00273&hnear=Clements,+San+Joaquin,+California&t=h&z=18&layer=c&cbll=38.191899,-121.083888&panoid=RZPysz84l1fnyO0zZDMAEg&cbp=12,197.32,,0,1.48

Billboard Chase
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=clements+road,+California&hl=en&ll=38.154807,-121.077833&spn=0.035434,0.043688&sll=38.191897,-121.08389&sspn=0.002213,0.00273&hnear=Clements+Rd,+San+Joaquin,+California&t=h&z=14&layer=c&cbll=38.15501,-121.077876&panoid=jnH_4QX4X8DdRHzEUmCKzw&cbp=12,0.61,,0,-9.59

Roadblock at "Old 99 Junction"
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=flood+road,+linden,+California&hl=en&ll=38.017018,-121.000355&spn=0.002219,0.00273&sll=38.15501,-121.077833&sspn=0.035433,0.043688&hnear=Flood+Rd,+Linden,+San+Joaquin,+California+95236&t=h&z=18

(continues below)
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: jwramc on February 01, 2012, 02:49:53 PM
Approaching Bill's Bar thru center of Linden,CA
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=linden,+California&hl=en&ll=38.020779,-121.084914&spn=0.00879,0.010922&sll=38.017018,-121.000355&sspn=0.002219,0.00273&hnear=Linden,+San+Joaquin,+California&t=h&z=16&layer=c&cbll=38.020707,-121.085136&panoid=1bow9L6eUmMg17wfbzfEOQ&cbp=12,70.45,,0,-2.21

Bill's Bar ("A Landing Spot")
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=linden+ca&hl=en&ll=38.022882,-121.077731&spn=0.001166,0.002108&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=36.178967,44.736328&hnear=Linden,+San+Joaquin,+California&t=h&layer=c&cbll=38.023009,-121.077893&panoid=Fq6S7HF0UH1Famtqnekvng&cbp=12,110.63,,0,2.63&z=19

Approach to bridge along dirt siding, cop appears from left
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=beaver+slough,+California&hl=en&ll=38.194414,-121.44712&spn=0.017539,0.021844&sll=38.020712,-121.085129&sspn=0.008875,0.010922&hnear=Beaver+Slough&t=h&z=15&layer=c&cbll=38.194312,-121.44711&panoid=IQc7jtjNnaOxu3KOM4ZpBw&cbp=12,7.21,,0,8.73

Charger re-enters road, cuts off cop
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=beaver+slough,+California&hl=en&ll=38.196236,-121.447077&spn=0.017538,0.021844&sll=38.020712,-121.085129&sspn=0.008875,0.010922&hnear=Beaver+Slough&t=h&z=15&layer=c&cbll=38.196336,-121.44706&panoid=gYOA7mt8iz5iREpg5H_q5g&cbp=12,154.63,,0,14.88

Cop car goes into channel
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=beaver+slough,+California&hl=en&ll=38.204094,-121.447077&spn=0.017536,0.021844&sll=38.020712,-121.085129&sspn=0.008875,0.010922&hnear=Beaver+Slough&t=h&z=15&layer=c&cbll=38.204203,-121.447078&panoid=D2EanhcymL35nWsdqGUDqA&cbp=12,145.41,,0,15.74

Entering the Walnut Groves
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=linden,+California&hl=en&ll=38.045218,-121.077704&spn=0.008787,0.010922&sll=38.204195,-121.447077&sspn=0.017705,0.021844&hnear=Linden,+San+Joaquin,+California&t=h&z=16&layer=c&cbll=38.045164,-121.077547&panoid=0lauF7vp-JgXN6f-TE7DTQ&cbp=12,302.5,,0,-11.49

Collision with red pickup truck
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=linden,+California&hl=en&ll=38.040368,-121.050303&spn=0.008872,0.010922&sll=38.204195,-121.447077&sspn=0.017705,0.021844&hnear=Linden,+San+Joaquin,+California&t=h&z=16&layer=c&cbll=38.040275,-121.050307&panoid=lAK33_tzrv33lOTR-CRvWg&cbp=12,189.91,,0,3.57

Interceptor spots Charger emerging after repairs
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=linden,+California&hl=en&ll=38.029687,-121.128044&spn=0.008874,0.010922&sll=38.204195,-121.447077&sspn=0.017705,0.021844&hnear=Linden,+San+Joaquin,+California&t=h&z=16&layer=c&cbll=38.029823,-121.128045&panoid=cdHqZb2RERLm5OdBkwbkwA&cbp=12,137.32,,0,3.28

S-turn where cop runs civilian Polara off the road
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=linden,+California&hl=en&ll=38.045675,-121.055474&spn=0.008872,0.010922&sll=38.204195,-121.447077&sspn=0.017705,0.021844&hnear=Linden,+San+Joaquin,+California&t=h&z=16&layer=c&cbll=38.045672,-121.055239&panoid=RDXyVvWt7jydujhKDgAzjQ&cbp=12,110.29,,0,-3.85

Interceptor crashes with Chevy wagon
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=linden,+California&hl=en&ll=38.044678,-121.096115&spn=0.008872,0.010922&sll=38.204195,-121.447077&sspn=0.017705,0.021844&hnear=Linden,+San+Joaquin,+California&t=h&z=16&layer=c&cbll=38.044766,-121.096119&panoid=Z0RC2xOSHGg8sd5FnQviqA&cbp=12,13.28,,0,22.87

Franklin spots Charger from helicopter
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=linden,+California&hl=en&ll=38.052201,-121.09582&spn=0.002218,0.00273&sll=38.204195,-121.447077&sspn=0.017705,0.021844&hnear=Linden,+San+Joaquin,+California&t=h&z=18

Helicopter chase (with roof-tapping)
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=linden,+California&hl=en&ll=37.972867,-121.059215&spn=0.035522,0.043688&sll=38.204195,-121.447077&sspn=0.017705,0.021844&hnear=Linden,+San+Joaquin,+California&t=h&z=14&layer=c&cbll=37.972867,-121.059215&panoid=QbymbLMnbYJhAikKqAwMMg&cbp=12,276.64,,0,-2.83

One of many turns Larry makes while "outdriving himself"
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=linden,+California&hl=en&ll=38.034352,-121.072726&spn=0.008873,0.010922&sll=38.204195,-121.447077&sspn=0.017705,0.021844&hnear=Linden,+San+Joaquin,+California&t=h&z=16&layer=c&cbll=38.034358,-121.072593&panoid=-6Z9FJiwqSVX0aZTZxDxWw&cbp=12,264.75,,0,8.28

Charger (with tall antenna) turns right, passing parked stake truck.
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=linden,+California&hl=en&ll=38.044847,-121.096394&spn=0.008872,0.010922&sll=38.204195,-121.447077&sspn=0.017705,0.021844&hnear=Linden,+San+Joaquin,+California&t=h&z=16&layer=c&cbll=38.04485,-121.096269&panoid=rHJ6trN6VaPqikF6fmKQFA&cbp=12,47.06,,0,3.93

Train crash crossing
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=linden,+California&hl=en&ll=38.022486,-121.10487&spn=0.008874,0.010922&sll=38.204195,-121.447077&sspn=0.017705,0.021844&hnear=Linden,+San+Joaquin,+California&t=h&z=16&layer=c&cbll=38.022578,-121.104863&panoid=R_dNBM7RLhe6nKq60_JSng&cbp=12,341.07,,0,-1.84

Staging area where cars were maintained and parked each night
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=linden,+California&hl=en&ll=38.030634,-121.095879&spn=0.008873,0.010922&sll=38.204195,-121.447077&sspn=0.017705,0.021844&hnear=Linden,+San+Joaquin,+California&t=h&z=16&layer=c&cbll=38.03044,-121.095876&panoid=TZJk-FVcCFzDLYd00UrZUA&cbp=12,211.11,,0,-17.09
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: Ghoste on February 01, 2012, 02:59:39 PM
 :bow:  Thank you much.
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: jwramc on February 01, 2012, 03:06:19 PM
Locations I still want to find.

Where Larry jumps the dozer ramp after the heist (this is not at Save Mart)
Franklin's farm
Where Larry drives between two semis (possibly a bit west of bus turn).
The incline where the Impala is damaged
Farm where Impala is repaired
Police headquarters and the parking lot
Intersection where rollercoaster chase ends
Ranger lookout tower
Intersection where Helicopter blades almost touch ground
Intersection where Charger runs over mailboxes

More to follow...  :eek2:

Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: FastbackJon on February 01, 2012, 03:07:11 PM
I reviewed the above list against my list and you have everything I have.

I can't believe this thread has over 10,000 views.
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: jwramc on February 01, 2012, 03:15:23 PM
..and folks will tell you you're crazy for being this into a movie. Clearly, we're not alone.  :cheers:
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: FastbackJon on February 01, 2012, 03:17:35 PM
See if you can beat me to finding a blue and red "BANK OF WELLS FARGO" belt buckle, lol.
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: nvrbdn on February 01, 2012, 03:35:52 PM
you guys have some incredible stuff here. this is so great to see. thanks :2thumbs:
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: tan top on February 01, 2012, 04:13:20 PM
 :coolgleamA:  awesome stuff (JWRAMC) :yesnod:     :bow:   :cheers:   thanks Dude  :popcrn:
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: FastbackJon on February 01, 2012, 06:54:48 PM
I just found a website with a list of California Fire Lookouts and I put them all into a Google Earth Map File if anyone wants to search for the one in the movie..

http://www.peakbagging.com/Peak%20Lists/CA_Lookout1.html

You're going to have to download the attachment and rename it to a .kml instead of .jpg. The forum will only let me upload files with image extensions. Then open it in Google Earth.
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: jwramc on February 01, 2012, 07:14:24 PM
Quote from: FastbackJon on February 01, 2012, 06:54:48 PM
I just found a website with a list of California Fire Lookouts and I put them all into a Google Earth Map File if anyone wants to search for the one in the movie..

http://www.peakbagging.com/Peak%20Lists/CA_Lookout1.html

You're going to have to download the attachment and rename it to a .kml instead of .jpg. The forum will only let me upload files with image extensions. Then open it in Google Earth.


Am I nuts, or are none of these pointers landing on any stations? One lands in the middle of San Francisco Bay!! The others are often half way up the hill/mountain! Zoom in and nothing there but trees.
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: FastbackJon on February 01, 2012, 08:15:00 PM
Ah.... egg on face! Here's a better map (attached). I updated it with three different kinds of markers.

Red = collapsed or removed.
Yellow = Dilapidated.
Green = Everything else.

On the previous map I had assumed their listing of 453456, 1201233 meant something like a latitude/longitude divisible by 10,000 such as 12.3456, -120.1233 but actually it's in the format of [d]ddmmss. So I had to parse out each coordinate and divide the minutes by 60 and the seconds by 3600 and add all of that to the degrees to get the correct coordinates.

Updated map attached.

:-)
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: jwramc on February 01, 2012, 08:49:50 PM
Quote from: FastbackJon on February 01, 2012, 08:15:00 PM
Ah.... egg on face! Here's a better map (attached). I updated it with three different kinds of markers.

Red = collapsed or removed.
Yellow = Dilapidated.
Green = Everything else.

On the previous map I had assumed their listing of 453456, 1201233 meant something like a latitude/longitude divisible by 10,000 such as 12.3456, -120.1233 but actually it's in the format of [d]ddmmss. So I had to parse out each coordinate and divide the minutes by 60 and the seconds by 3600 and add all of that to the degrees to get the correct coordinates.

Updated map attached.

:-)

Bahahaha!! Geek alert!  :smilielol:  :2thumbs:

Thanks. :)
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: CaptMarvel on February 01, 2012, 10:49:08 PM
I always knew there was something special about DMCL besides the charger...As any resident of the BIG VALLEY (San Joaquin Valley, Ca.) can tell you, this type of scenery is present all along the eastern side of the valley from Sacramento all the way down the state almost to Bakersfield...It was great growing up in what I call the "real" California...been to that Sonora Save Mart lots of times and never realized..plenty of little east valley one horse farm towns, massive walnut, almond, and orange orchards, and most importantly plenty of out of the way places to PUNCH IT with your big block Mopar..(back before it was practically a felony to do so)..If they ever do a remake, they better film again in the heart of Ca. and shun Hollywood and the Bay area...:2thumbs:+
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: AirborneSilva on February 02, 2012, 06:54:57 AM
Quote from: CaptMarvel on February 01, 2012, 10:49:08 PM
I always knew there was something special about DMCL besides the charger...As any resident of the BIG VALLEY (San Joaquin Valley, Ca.) can tell you, this type of scenery is present all along the eastern side of the valley from Sacramento all the way down the state almost to Bakersfield...It was great growing up in what I call the "real" California...been to that Sonora Save Mart lots of times and never realized..plenty of little east valley one horse farm towns, massive walnut, almond, and orange orchards, and most importantly plenty of out of the way places to PUNCH IT with your big block Mopar..(back before it was practically a felony to do so)..If they ever do a remake, they better film again in the heart of Ca. and shun Hollywood and the Bay area...:2thumbs:+

I grew up in Oakdale in the 70's, it was a great time to live/grow up there.  I buried my Speedo on my 68 a couple of times on Valley Home highway - good times  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: Ghoste on February 02, 2012, 07:01:07 AM
How far in minutes would Monterey be from these areas?
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: AirborneSilva on February 02, 2012, 07:13:27 AM
I know from Salinas it's about 1 1/2 hours so you are probably looking at a good 2 hours
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: jwramc on February 02, 2012, 10:45:15 AM
Added a link to the locations list above that leads to a map graphic I created that shows the central Linden-vicinity locations.
I think it's another neat way to 'see' them.
http://thepatrickmiracle.net/DMCL/DMCLmap01s2.gif
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: FastbackJon on March 15, 2012, 06:56:02 PM
Kinda pricey, but similar wheels?

http://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/pts/2892768265.html

(http://images.craigslist.org/5Ic5L55H33L83M43Fdc39c89f3e76bb431c46.jpg)

US Indy Mag 14x7 and 14x8
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: jwramc on March 15, 2012, 10:09:46 PM
$100 per wheel isn't ridiculous for totally rashless, original, vintage Indy wheels. Nice find.
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: FastbackJon on October 15, 2012, 06:05:39 PM
Well a little over six years after starting this thread, and since having spent a few hours narrowing down the filming area and scouring Google maps to find a majority of the interesting locations used in the film, I got to visit a few of them as a small part of the honeymoon road trip last June. What a great wife!

"You go left on Fryman, right on James Street, then you bypass Bucola down to Jackson..."

(http://www.mojomovie.com/images/cache/screen_image_149594.jpg)

Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: 68X426 on October 15, 2012, 07:26:50 PM
That's the Farmington General Store, at the corner of State Hwy 4 and County Hwy J6, in the middle of San Joaquin County. Just south of Linden, easy to get to.  :2thumbs:

Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: model maker on October 15, 2012, 08:04:59 PM
Linden is swarming with FBI, DEA, and several california police departments looking for all of the bodies of the murder victims of the 2 "speed thrill killers" who since the late 80's - 2000's killed a lot of people and dumped the bodies in several wells all over Linden. the police did not know any of this until one of the killers was paroled to susanville calif. and for some reason confessed that he and his partner who was still in prison ( both were convicted of 1 killing ) and the guy who was paroled confessed to ALL of the killings  , told the police where some of the bodies were, then killed himself. The other guy then confessed when questioned and has been leading police & FBI to a LOT of burial sites in Linden.  I MEAN THEY JUST DUMPED BODY AFTER BODY INTO WELLS USED FOR DRINKING WATER  ! if you saw a lot of activity in any of the fields along the roadways, this is what you were seeing. i will try to find the story and post a link.
Bert

HERE IS THE LINK              http://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/Speed-Freak-Killers-put-Linden-CA-in-spotlight-3319137.php   
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: RallyeMike on October 16, 2012, 12:41:39 AM
This is still the best thread that ever hit this board. It inspired my own side trip in 2009 to see several of the sites, and I have the speeding ticket to prove it.  :lol:

Good to see that the store has re-opened.

I wonder how many general store bench sitters do we have here?



Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: Ghoste on October 16, 2012, 05:18:53 AM
Nice.  :2thumbs: :cheers:
Title: 40th Anniversary "Dirty Mary Crazy Larry" Film Locations Road Trip June 2013
Post by: jwramc on October 16, 2012, 10:19:21 AM
I am shooting for/hoping/wishing to return to the area again around late-September of next year (to take advantage of the late sunset times), to do an even more in-depth photo journal, especially now that I've more than doubled my location list since I was there in April 2010. I plan to bring more than just the list this time- like screen captures of each of the spots so I can position myself EXACTLY where the original cameras were to have more precise 'then and now' photos. I'm planning it as a three day, two night trip that again does NOT include the wife as she'd be bored to tears the whole time as I run around like a kid in a candy shop.
:boogie:

Now, I'm also entertaining the idea of doing this as a group road trip, provided a decent group of 6-10 folks wanted to spend 10-12 HOURS hopping around these Nowheresville towns to look at weeds and rundown buildings, etc...in a rented, full-size passenger van. We could each simply pay our own way on everything except for the van and fuel which would be totaled up and split as many ways as we have bodies aboard (I could certainly give a very good estimate well before the date). We've got LOTS of time to hammer out all the details, but I think once we have a set figure for the van and fuel, I'd want to require that split-total collected well before the trip so that 'no-shows' on the day don't force added costs on those that show up, pissing onto their day. All of this is open to discussion over the next year, of course. Just spitballin'!

Anywayz- here's a draft of a somewhat realistic itinerary. Feel free to pick it apart. ESPECIALLY if you know of a location I've missed that needs to be added in. I've tried to limit the amount of mileage we cover more than once, and to keep the stops as close to being in film-order as feasible. The STARTING point of a Hotel in Sonora at 8AM can, of course, be adjusted to elsewhere with a relative change of the start time as well- Example Modesto/Riverbank at 7AM to head to Sonora by 8AM.

Have a look and let me know if this interests anyone, and offer any suggestions you wish.

40th Anniversary "Dirty Mary Crazy Larry" Film Locations Road Trip: mid-June or late-September, 2013
Marking 40 years since the movie was filmed in and around Linden, California.

SONORA, CA (which is 2.5hrs from SFO (San Francisco, CA) VAN leaves Hotel at 8AM sharp.
8:10-8:20 Fairview Apartments (Mary's Place), Sonora, CA
8:25 Approaching Save Mart, Sonora, CA
8:30-8:45 Save Mart, Sonora, CA
8:55-9:00 Deke Dropped-Off at Hostage House

1 hour drive to
FARMINGTON, CA
10:00-10:30 General Store [GRAB COFFEE or A BAG LUNCH HERE TO EAT AS WE ROLL}
10:35 Looking back at Impala approaching General Store.
10:40-10:45 Franklin boards the helicopter

LINDEN, CA
10:50-10:55 Roadblock at "Old 99 Junction"
11:05-11:10 View through Ranger's binoculars (not actually at lookout station)
11:15-11:25 Impala turns, cutting off the bus
11:30-11:40 Rollercoaster Chase (note the flat-top mountain on the horizon, left of the road)

CLEMENTS CA
12:00-12:30 Dutton Flats flea market
12:40-1:00 Billboard Chase

LINDEN, CA
1:10-1:15 Franklin spots Charger from helicopter
1:20-1:30 Interceptor crashes with Chevy wagon
1:35-1:45 Charger (with tall antenna) turns right, passing parked stake truck.
1:50-1:55 Interceptor spots Charger emerging after repairs
2:00-2:15 Approaching Bill's Bar thru center of Linden,CA [COFFEE STOP]
2:20-2:45 Bill's Bar ("A Landing Spot")
2:50-3:00 Collision with red pickup truck
3:05 One of many turns Larry makes while "outdriving himself"
3:10-3:20 Entering the Walnut Groves
3:25-3:45 S-turn where cop runs civilian Polara off the road
3:55-4:00 Staging area where cars were maintained and parked each night
4:10-4:35 Train crash crossing

STOCKTON, CA
4:50-5:05 Current Location (if not scrapped by now) of the locomotive (Alco S1 Switcher ST&E RR #505)

BEAVER SLOUGH, CA; 40 minute drive [plus Snack Stop en route 15mins]
6:05-6:10 Approach to bridge along dirt siding, cop appears from left
6:15-6:20 Charger re-enters road, cuts off cop
6:25-6:35 Cop car goes into channel

TRACY, CA; 50 minute drive
7:25-7:50 Drawbridge

ENTIRE TRIP SCHEDULED 12 HOURS, but is padded somewhat so that, perhaps,
actual time will be 10.5-11 hours.
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: Ghoste on October 16, 2012, 10:29:23 AM
June huh?  I just might be able to make that work.
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: jwramc on October 16, 2012, 10:33:12 AM
I wanted to avoid mid-summer heat in a van (even if it does have properly-functioning AC!). :)
As an alternate, I was thinking late-September.
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: Ghoste on October 16, 2012, 10:52:06 AM
Late September would work for me too, that and June are a couple of the few times per year when I can think much about getting away. lol  (of course, we haven't finalized next year's schedule yet either)
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: nvrbdn on October 16, 2012, 11:12:51 AM
are you talking weekend, weekday, what kind of schedule? looks like 1 day out there, one long day of seeing the sights, and next day going home. with 10 people, how much picture taking time per stop? if i were going, id have to have a couple pic's with different angles of each item you listed. :2thumbs:
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: FastbackJon on October 16, 2012, 12:13:31 PM
Nice picture Mike! Yes the store is back open. I went inside and talked to the older lady who was working and asked if she'd seen the movie and she said no, but she'd heard about it. I took video inside the store too.

Sounds like an interesting trip JW.

Couple more.... can you believe it? And orange chevy truck with slotted mags was there when we arrived here.... (just noticed it didn't have any plates either).

It looks like it's still a functioning apartment place as the rooms are numbered.

"Will the last person in Seattle
Please turn out the lights"

(http://auto.sympatico.ca/docs/sizes/4f446ab913fb4/large/217353-large-Dirty_Mary_Crazy_Larry-02.png)

Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: 68X426 on October 16, 2012, 12:30:10 PM
jwr: there's several members here who live in Sonora, Modesto, and No-wheresville. I'm sure that you would have several, maybe a dozen or more, Mopars along for the cruise. Charger Steve is just up the road, and there's a bunch of Sacramento and Bay Area members as well who would likely join.

I live in Sonora. My office is 3 blocks from that famous SaveMart. Budnicks is right close too. We can help you with info on area hotels, and some of the finer details.

Mid-June can have 100 degree days, average is 90. July and August are always 100s. September cools down to 90 average. Keep in mind that if there is a good rain season that the countryside can still be green in June. By September everything is golden brown, just like the movie. Then the orchards really stand out against the landscape. So I think that September is your best window of opportunity.


Did a Dodge Charger do that to you?

(http://imageshack.us/a/img42/5687/hqdefaultkn.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/42/hqdefaultkn.jpg/)


Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: 68X426 on October 16, 2012, 12:33:33 PM
The orange Chevy pick-up is probably still on its side in the same spot. No one cleans up much in No-wheresville.  :D

(http://imageshack.us/a/img716/4237/vlcsnap1909397yi8993.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/716/vlcsnap1909397yi8993.jpg/)


Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: Ghoste on October 16, 2012, 12:46:47 PM
They cleaned up the spilled walnuts though, right?
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: FastbackJon on October 16, 2012, 02:35:38 PM
Just uploaded some 1080p High-Def videos to YouTube from some of the locations including walking to look behind Bill's Beer, Pool and Gas, driving behind and walking into the Sonora Save Mart in case anyone was curious.  :popcrn:

Driving up to "Fairview Motor Apts."
http://youtu.be/G9h9mfCoGCo

At "Fairview Motor Apts."
http://youtu.be/3ByS4J4GWJs

"Fairview Motor Apts. to (and behind) Save Mart"
http://youtu.be/OIZZT_Lk3VA

At and inside Save Mart
http://youtu.be/CL00TJAiSdE

"Ogilvie's General Store"
http://youtu.be/Q3K4DfjmYz0

"Dutton Flats"
http://youtu.be/7-nBm9Hufvk

Through Linden to "Bill's Beer, Pool and Gas"
http://youtu.be/lqsxp_4tiq8

Around and behind "Bill's Beer, Pool and Gas"
http://youtu.be/7hqUGEyJ8pA

"Old 99 Junction"
http://youtu.be/XvncdEu3kOo

Charger Train Crash
http://youtu.be/nvtdXuVol0I
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: model maker on October 16, 2012, 05:59:52 PM
WOW, I can't believe how MUCH  nature has grown all over that area. 40 years and everything looks crowded with trees and buildings. when he mentioned  this in the trip intinary      "1:35-1:45 Charger (with tall antenna) turns right, passing parked stake truck."  That was MY charger in that scene and I still have that large antennae  :cheers: back in 1977 when i had the charger, We took a trip to linden in it, it was me, my best friend paul, & my girlfriend ( soon to be wife aka charger killer- soon to be EX wife ) and we drove & parked in the back of bills bar/pool hall. We walked around front & went inside and had a beer. there were 2 pool tables there, one in the main bar and the other in that side room where they filmed the pool scene. The bar tender got a phone call about my charger parked in the back from the owner who lived there and they wanted to take pictures with them sitting in my Movie charger. the bar tender asked if he could drive it and i politly said NO :shruggy: The trip was made more irritating having charger killer tagging along, :brickwall: I mean she complained almost constantly that she was bored. I told her that we were going to be looking for places and hanging around those places for a while with the charger & she was excited to go. that is until we got 20 miles from linden & her moaning & groaning started ( easy guys i KNOW what some of you are thinking ) :smilielol: :smilielol: :rofl: :rofl: maybe we should have left her alone in the back seat to occupy herself and let us concentrate on finding the filming spots( according to the marked map pages that were in the trunk with the other things from the movie) the only problem with that is she sometimes sounded like a  loud siren and i didn;t want that coming from the charger or people might think they were being pulled over by a police car  :smilielol: :smilielol: :rofl: :rofl:, Sorry, i just couldn't resist. JW, you did an OUTSTANDING JOB on finding the locations as I know first hand how widespread that area is & to do what you did driving & finding, mapping, & charting that entire area for us here was a LOT of hard work & I for one want to say THANK YOU many times over !!!! Too bad we couldn't get a DMCL clone to go on that trip & maybe even a  blue chevy Impala :popcrn: :popcrn:

BERT
MODEL MAKER

PS, SORRY for the picture of me in the foreground but that is my movie charger parked behind me in the 35 year old picture from 1977. :2thumbs:
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: jwramc on October 16, 2012, 10:49:11 PM
Quote from: nvrbdn on October 16, 2012, 11:12:51 AM
are you talking weekend, weekday, what kind of schedule? looks like 1 day out there, one long day of seeing the sights, and next day going home. with 10 people, how much picture taking time per stop? if i were going, id have to have a couple pic's with different angles of each item you listed. :2thumbs:

I was thinking a Saturday preferably. You can see by the schedule I wrote up that many of the more minor locations get a mere 5 minutes of time... barely enough for everyone to pile out of the van, snap a couple of pics real quick and hop back on. Others have 10 or 15 minutes assigned to them. The major locations (long stops or big crashes in the film) get even longer times... and even then, it's a rather rushed run-through. IDEALLY, this would be a TWO day thing to allow twice as much time for every stop and shorten those days to 8 hours each, +/-. Not sure everyone would be up for that.

Quote from: 68X426 on October 16, 2012, 12:30:10 PM
jwr: there's several members here who live in Sonora, Modesto, and No-wheresville. I'm sure that you would have several, maybe a dozen or more, Mopars along for the cruise. Charger Steve is just up the road, and there's a bunch of Sacramento and Bay Area members as well who would likely join.

I live in Sonora. My office is 3 blocks from that famous SaveMart. Budnicks is right close too. We can help you with info on area hotels, and some of the finer details.

Mid-June can have 100 degree days, average is 90. July and August are always 100s. September cools down to 90 average. Keep in mind that if there is a good rain season that the countryside can still be green in June. By September everything is golden brown, just like the movie. Then the orchards really stand out against the landscape. So I think that September is your best window of opportunity.

I agree late-September would certainly have the right 'look' to make everyone's photos that much more of a match to the film. And any help setting the whole thing up would certainly be appreciated. As for the multi-vehicle cruise idea, that would be problematic. Many of these locations don't have anywhere to park a sudden influx of 10-12 cars. There are few roads with real shoulders, and parking a string of cars like that is going to limit photo angles, cluttering the view with cars instead of the location. For SOME locations, it would certainly be cool... like Save Mart, Bill's Bar, The Flea Market. But overall, I think it would be unwieldy and even disruptive to the locals. That's just my knee-jerk thought on the idea.

Quote from: 68X426 on October 16, 2012, 12:33:33 PM
The orange Chevy pick-up is probably still on its side in the same spot. No one cleans up much in No-wheresville.  :D

Wasn't there in 2010. :)

Quote from: model maker on October 16, 2012, 05:59:52 PMJW, you did an OUTSTANDING JOB on finding the locations as I know first hand how widespread that area is & to do what you did driving & finding, mapping, & charting that entire area for us here was a LOT of hard work & I for one want to say THANK YOU many times over !!!! Too bad we couldn't get a DMCL clone to go on that trip & maybe even a  blue chevy Impala :popcrn: :popcrn:

I would LOVE the idea, tho, of a DMCL Charger-clone leading the van the whole trip. :coolgleamA: Thanks for the kudos. They weren't ALL my own finds... I'd say maybe half are. I've had a lot of help nailing down that list and STILL have a bunch of spots I'd love to locate. For instance, I believe the police station and lot were shot at a school, likely in Stockton... but no idea which, and it could be long gone. Franklin's farm, the horse farm where the Impala is fixed, the supermarket interior, the supermarket rear area where Larry begs for the keys from Mary, the field where the Impala jumps the 'dozer ramp (yup, three, maybe FOUR separate locations to portray ONE store!), the T intersection where Hank's first cruiser throws a rod, the turn with the low helicopter, the turn with the mailboxes, the dirt road where Larry powders Hank's face... and a few others.
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: squeakfinder on October 17, 2012, 11:07:25 AM
  The trip was made more irritating having charger killer tagging along, :brickwall: I mean she complained almost constantly that she was bored.

BERT
MODEL MAKER








Sounds like you and your buddy should of ditched her at the general store.   
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: Ghoste on October 17, 2012, 11:20:04 AM
She would have talked.
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: nvrbdn on October 17, 2012, 11:46:27 AM
 :smilielol: :smilielol: :D
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: jwramc on October 17, 2012, 01:29:32 PM
Quote from: squeakfinder on October 17, 2012, 11:07:25 AMSounds like you and your buddy should of ditched her at the general store.

:lol: :2thumbs: :lol: :2thumbs: :lol:

Mary at the wheel of the damaged Impala...

Larry- "What are you doing?"

Mary- "Well, I got bored."

---Larry goes under the car...

Deke- "Everything okay?"

Larry- "She got bored."

Deke- "Great."
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: model maker on October 17, 2012, 02:28:36 PM
Quote from: Ghoste on October 17, 2012, 11:20:04 AM
She would have talked.

You have that right, she would NEVER shut up :brickwall: we couldn't go ANYWHERE without her having to stare at herself in a mirror or window on  public street and would ALWAYS have to go back home & change clothes. We would be leaving the house to go somewhere and by the time we got 6 blocks, she would demand to go back home to CHANGE TO OTHER CLOTHES :flame:
Quote from: squeakfinder on October 17, 2012, 11:07:25 AM
  The trip was made more irritating having charger killer tagging along, :brickwall: I mean she complained almost constantly that she was bored.

BERT
MODEL MAKER








Sounds like you and your buddy should of ditched her at the general store.   

we DID think of that but she didn't want to stay back at the motel room, because she wouldn't be able make us completely miserable from there. I know my buddy & i would have been able to find a lot more locations without her whining to hurry up  i'm bored, i want you to take me shopping etc. but the torture of her whining forced us to drive her ass all the way back home to the bay area where we lived. it was a VERY QUIET RIDE as I was fuming inside and she  knew she wasn't going to get any conversation from me.
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: tan top on October 17, 2012, 03:17:40 PM
 :coolgleamA: more Awesome DMCL  info & stuff Guys , thanks for sharing  :cheers:

:popcrn:
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: FastbackJon on October 17, 2012, 05:44:32 PM
Standing about where the Charger burned up.

I was hoping to see the asphalt still in the same condition, with the hole for the tow car going under the tracks, but sadly it has been repaved.

(http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=88362.0;attach=167668;image)
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: model maker on October 17, 2012, 09:54:25 PM
I see an RV behind you, are there houses right there ? It looks so different today. just think, if there ARE houses right there, I wonder if the people living there ever watched DMCL & if so,I wonder if they would even know the end of the movie was filmed right there in front of their house :popcrn: :popcrn:
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: model maker on October 17, 2012, 09:56:24 PM
which direction are you facing ? which way did the car come from in relation to where you are standing Jon ?
Bert
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: nvrbdn on October 17, 2012, 09:59:09 PM
might just be a pickers truck for the crew or something. :shruggy:
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: jwramc on October 17, 2012, 10:13:32 PM
The shot is facing backwards to what we see from overhead in the film, so the Charger would be coming at us in the photo above, with the train approaching from our right.

And yes, there a few houses on both sides of the road (and they could have been there in 1973). The camera angles in the film didn't face this direction, so they aren't seen in the film. Illusion of a deserted roadway!

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=archerdale+linden+ca&ie=UTF-8&hq=&hnear=0x80907022de64126f:0x77649e870b7fad05,Archerdale+Rd,+Linden,+CA+95236&gl=us&ei=ZnR_UMn2IIrK0AHasYHACg&ved=0CCEQ8gEwAA
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: FastbackJon on October 18, 2012, 12:45:47 AM
Yup, I'm standing on or about where the Charger was when it blew up. Few houses around there. Wish I had more time to knock on some doors and ask around. But we drove through real quick from Stockton to South Lake Tahoe that day.
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: Khyron on October 18, 2012, 01:00:01 AM
Quote from: jwramc on October 16, 2012, 10:49:11 PM

I would LOVE the idea, tho, of a DMCL Charger-clone leading the van the whole trip. :coolgleamA: Thanks for the kudos.

I would entertain this is we can figure out a way to get her there without me going broke. :P:
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: Fred on October 18, 2012, 01:31:35 AM
I am thorougly enjoying this thread FastbackJon.  The pics are great.  Thanks for sharing.   :2thumbs: :2thumbs:
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: FastbackJon on October 19, 2012, 06:24:42 PM
No problem!  :popcrn:

(http://imagesup.org/images10/1321265634-vlcsnap-2011-11-12-.png)
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: Ghoste on October 19, 2012, 06:27:22 PM
Grafitti is fine for railroad cars and abandoned factories but anywhere else I see it just disgusts me. :flame: :flame:
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: Fred on October 19, 2012, 06:53:13 PM
Quote from: Ghoste on October 19, 2012, 06:27:22 PM
Grafitti is fine for railroad cars and abandoned factories but anywhere else I see it just disgusts me. :flame: :flame:

You said it.  I agree.
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: tan top on October 19, 2012, 06:59:29 PM

more good DMCL stuff , thanks for sharing  :cheers:



Quote from: Fred on October 19, 2012, 06:53:13 PM
Quote from: Ghoste on October 19, 2012, 06:27:22 PM
Grafitti is fine for railroad cars and abandoned factories but anywhere else I see it just disgusts me. :flame: :flame:

You said it.  I agree.

yes thinking the same  :yesnod:
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: Ghoste on October 19, 2012, 07:04:05 PM
But that doesn't mean I'm not grateful to you for finding the bridge Jon!  Thank you for that part.  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: Fred on October 19, 2012, 07:06:52 PM
Quote from: Ghoste on October 19, 2012, 07:04:05 PM
But that doesn't mean I'm not grateful to you for finding the bridge Jon!  Thank you for that part.  :2thumbs:

Oh no, we not saying that. Just talking about grafitti in general.
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: FastbackJon on October 20, 2012, 01:48:20 AM
No problem. I spent much time on Google maps looking at satellite images around Stockton at various canals until I found that one. Strange location as it was so far away from the rest of them, actually west of Stockton.

I wonder if the grates to protect the glass were there all along and they just took them down for filming or if they were put up later.

Wish I could have walked/looked around a bit longer at that location but that was a long day, from Bodega Bay, down the coastal highway, through and around San Fran, then over to Stockton. Talk about traffic!! Slow driving on the freeway for miles and miles out of San Fran and west of Oakland. Finally got nice when we turned up Tracy Blvd. towards the draw bridge.

Here's some video, with my wife helping me with the corny commentary, haha.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QQux7BCNoM




Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: mightywing7 on October 20, 2012, 02:22:59 AM
FastbackJon:

Great stuff!!   :2thumbs:  Thanks for sharing!!
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: Ghoste on October 20, 2012, 10:25:03 AM
Although I wouldn't be surprised if they were there and removed for filming, I'm inclined to think they were put up later to protect the operator's room from the same jackasses that think it's cool to paint retarded looking scribbles on the side of it.
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: RallyeMike on October 22, 2012, 12:21:58 AM
QuoteHere's some video, with my wife helping me with the corny commentary, haha.

Wouldnt be the same experience without saying the lines !
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: Ghoste on October 22, 2012, 05:33:47 AM
X2!
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: fireguyfire on October 22, 2012, 07:23:09 AM
Maybe there is an opportunity for someone to make a few bucks here; put together a DMCL tour that has information about the locations, maps how to get there, and photos of the spots from the movie. People could download it for a fee and have their own self guided DMCL adventure!
I know there is a Bullitt tour in San Francisco that gets you to some of the key locations, and guides you through the drive done in the famous chase scene; something I would do for sure if I ever got to either place!
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: Ghoste on October 22, 2012, 07:24:04 AM
Incidentally, how far is the locomotive display from where all of these sites are generally located?
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: jwramc on October 22, 2012, 12:03:54 PM
Quote from: Ghoste on October 22, 2012, 07:24:04 AM
Incidentally, how far is the locomotive display from where all of these sites are generally located?

When I was there in April 2010, it was INDOORS in the 'engine house' of the ST&E railroad. They wanted it gone then and were on the verge of scraping it,
and they may indeed have happened by now. It is not on 'public display', but my plan was to call ahead to get permission to visit it.

It's perhaps 10-15 minutes from the center of Linden.
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: FastbackJon on October 22, 2012, 01:31:00 PM
Here is the 505 from early 1975.

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=313716&nseq=0

Note how the hand railings in the front are not as straight as 506 seen here at a similar point in time (1976).

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=313624&skip=1

506 is in Portola, CA in a railroad museum. There's a claim that it was in the movie. It was supposed to be in the movie, but they crashed two Chargers into trains. The first (the '68) went into 506 and didn't film like they wanted on screen (where did that footage end up?). So they ran a second one (the non-RT '69) into 505 at a later date, which is what you see on film. That '69 is the first Charger you see in the movie, at Dutton Flats with the tow loop under the radiator support.

Here's the train you see on screen, which looks like 505 (similar reflectors on the front and sides, as well as a "V" shaped piece of hardware just rear of the damaged rails, which 506 does not have) and the hand rails are already damaged. This may have been a shot from after the wreck, and they just backed the train up and shot it again.

(http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=88362.0;attach=167669;image)

(http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=88362.0;attach=167668;image)

Here is a current shot of 505 from 2007. The hand rails are repainted.

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=179582

And here is a current shot of 505 from 2011. The hand rails are mostly hidden behind the building support in this one.

(http://www.westcoastrailforums.com/attachment.php?aid=15578)

And here is the current location of 505 inside this building.

http://goo.gl/maps/yZMP8
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: Fred on October 22, 2012, 03:30:07 PM
Great stuff.  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: Tooz 72 on October 22, 2012, 03:51:11 PM
I wonder if there are still any flakes of greenish yellow paint on it ?   :icon_smile_big:
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: tan top on October 22, 2012, 06:35:56 PM
 :coolgleamA: :coolgleamA: :cheers:    :popcrn:
Title: Re: Have I found Dutton Flats?
Post by: 1974dodgecharger on October 23, 2012, 06:07:29 AM
gonna have to visit this place.....
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Post by: FastbackJon on February 24, 2013, 03:37:20 PM
D.M.C.L. on Blu-ray is due out in about three months!

2013-05-28

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Dirty-Mary-Crazy-Larry-and-Race-With-The-Devil-Blu-ray/66044/
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Post by: Ghoste on February 24, 2013, 08:25:22 PM
Although I could do without the motorhome/satanist flick I'll still end up buying the Blu ray.
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Post by: tan top on February 25, 2013, 07:17:04 AM
Quote from: FastbackJon on February 24, 2013, 03:37:20 PM
D.M.C.L. on Blu-ray is due out in about three months!

2013-05-28

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Dirty-Mary-Crazy-Larry-and-Race-With-The-Devil-Blu-ray/66044/


something else i got to buy now a blueray player thing  :brickwall:  :lol:  wonder if it will contain the whole unedited film with missing scenes  :scratchchin:
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Post by: Ghoste on February 25, 2013, 07:36:40 AM
I sincerely doubt it.  It would be nice but my bet is that it'll just be the last version they released encoded for blu ray and put into a nice bllue plastic box so suckers like me will buy it.  I think they'll try and pass off the fact that its paired with the other stalwart of 70's b-movie low budget film making will be touted as the exciting "extra".  I hope I'm wrong though.
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Post by: tan top on February 25, 2013, 08:02:12 AM
 yeah , think your right   :yesnod:

getting a bit off track , but still DMCL stuff ,  been looking at these for a while on ebay ,

:scratchchin:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dirty-Mary-Crazy-Larry-Peter-Fonda-Susan-George-FRAMED-MOVIE-FILMCELLS-/111005938793?pt=UK_DVD_Film_TV_Film_Memorabilia_LE&var=&hash=item19d8783469

wonder if you can choose the filmscells you want  :scratchchin:
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Post by: nvrbdn on February 25, 2013, 12:36:09 PM
i like that plaque. :2thumbs:
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Post by: FastbackJon on May 28, 2013, 08:11:27 PM
The blu-ray came out today...

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Dirty-Mary-Crazy-Larry-and-Race-with-the-Devil-Blu-ray/66044/
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Post by: model maker on May 28, 2013, 10:15:38 PM
I have never seen anything in Blu-ray, I hear it looks great. Can you play regular movie Dvds on it or do you need to re buy all of your Dvds  so you can play them on it ?
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Post by: Fred on May 28, 2013, 10:41:37 PM
I've got a Panasonic bluray recorder. It plays blurays as well as dvd's. Plus it has twin tuners and hard drive so I can record two movies (or whatever) at the same time while watching a third.
It does need to be a recorder though, not just a player.
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Post by: model maker on May 29, 2013, 12:04:00 AM
thanks for the info.
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Post by: Fred on May 29, 2013, 12:16:53 AM
You're welcome.
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Post by: 1974dodgecharger on May 29, 2013, 12:40:46 AM
amazon here i come...
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Post by: Ghoste on May 29, 2013, 03:47:10 AM
We have a Sony Blu Ray and it does not record but it can play regular dvd as well.
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Post by: Fred on May 29, 2013, 04:00:13 AM
Hang on. I've got it sorted now......... The bluray players can play dvd's but the dvd players can't play bluray.
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Post by: Ghoste on May 29, 2013, 04:07:42 AM
That's how mine work.
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Post by: billfury on May 29, 2013, 05:21:18 AM
You can also play bluray on a playstation 3. :Twocents:
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Post by: FastbackJon on May 29, 2013, 10:34:44 PM
Release date might be June 4th instead of May 28th... still soon!

Yes, DVD players are not forward-compatible with blu-ray discs but blu-ray players are backwards-compatible with DVD discs.

The blu-ray uses blue laser as opposed to the standard red laser. The blue laser is smaller and thus we can fit and read more on a blu-ray disc than we could read with a larger red laser. So if we can fit more information on a blu-ray disc, and the movie is the same length, that means a higher quality/resolution movie. Your blu-ray movies are 1080p (that many horizontal lines), whereas DVDs are 480p lines, so much better resolution.

Getting back on topic, it will be interesting to see how the color of the Charger comes out on the blu-ray. If it's more of a banana yellow, or more of the accurate bright-greenish yellow. That GY3 is a difficult color to photograph accurately.
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Post by: Mike DC on May 30, 2013, 12:19:10 AM
Blu-Rays can look great but they are dependent on the source material.  For example the "Vanishing Point" Blu-Ray isn't a dramatic improvement over the DVD's image quality because the source film isn't great.  But other stuff has a much more dramatic improvement.  It depends on a bunch of factors. 

Part of the reason Blu-Rays have taken off is because of newer TVs.  When you move from a small glass screen TV to a big new HD flat one, it takes a higher-resolution image quality just to maintain the same level of clarity.  DVDs still look decent on a big HD wide screen but Blu-Rays look better.


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Post by: Fred on May 30, 2013, 12:42:00 AM
When we upgraded from our glass TV to an LCD/LED flat screen I couldn't believe the improvment of the dvd's we previously watched on the old TV.
It was a 100% improvement. I couldn't imagine that bluray could be even better.
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Post by: Ghoste on May 30, 2013, 01:12:38 AM
All I know is, I'll end up owning a copy. :lol:
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Post by: model maker on May 30, 2013, 06:06:38 PM
You & me both.
Bert
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Post by: FastbackJon on February 19, 2015, 06:27:27 PM
In Toys 'R Us today for baby stuff and happened over to the car section...

Much to my surprise I spotted and purchased a hotwheels-sized DMCL Charger! Only one on the rack and only about $6.

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Post by: nvrbdn on February 19, 2015, 07:27:09 PM
nice find. I need one.
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Post by: tan top on February 19, 2015, 07:36:35 PM
Quote from: FastbackJon on February 19, 2015, 06:27:27 PM
In Toys 'R Us today for baby stuff and happened over to the car section...

Much to my surprise I spotted and purchased a hotwheels-sized DMCL Charger! Only one on the rack and only about $6.



:coolgleamA: :2thumbs:
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Post by: Ghoste on February 20, 2015, 06:11:13 AM
Don't know how many they have but Supercar Collectibles had them, I got a few when I ordered my 1:18 ones. :2thumbs:
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Post by: VegasCharger on February 20, 2015, 08:16:47 AM
 :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs:
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Post by: RallyeMike on March 11, 2015, 11:19:28 PM
Revival of this awesome thread!

1) Curious if anyone else has since had the opportunity to visit any of the film sites?

2) My DMCL-themed garage art:

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Post by: Ghoste on March 12, 2015, 05:28:33 AM
I'm hoping to make it out there this summer but I am planning an extensive visit out there.  :2thumbs:
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Post by: 68pplcharger on March 12, 2015, 08:59:41 AM
I have been to the little town were the robbery happened. Would like to go back and drive the entire course someday.
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Post by: tan top on March 12, 2015, 05:51:06 PM
 would love to travel the DMCL filming locations someday ..... :yesnod:


while on the subject of DMCL , came across this on Ebay , one for the serious collectors I think  :o

http://www.ebay.com/itm/DIRTY-MARY-CRAZY-LARRY-Ultra-Rare-Press-Kit-69-R-T-Charger-Peter-Fonda-S-George-/251863926527?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3aa44286ff
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Post by: tan top on March 12, 2015, 05:51:45 PM
 :scratchchin:
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Post by: Ghoste on March 12, 2015, 06:47:48 PM
Wow!  It's cool but at 500 bucks for a starting bid it won't be coming over to my place.
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Post by: Polygon on March 12, 2015, 10:04:44 PM
That was some very good helicopter flying.
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Post by: TPR on March 13, 2015, 08:27:57 PM
That's a lot of dollars.
The color shots of the Charger would be great to own though.
TPR
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Post by: Ghoste on March 14, 2015, 09:49:25 AM
It ended early so either someone made an offer he was happy with or he changed his mind.
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Post by: nvrbdn on March 14, 2015, 05:54:32 PM
he put it back for starting bid of 295. :2thumbs:
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Post by: Ghoste on March 14, 2015, 06:38:26 PM
Hmm, still too rich for my blood personally but it seems a lot more realistic.
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Post by: 68X426 on October 04, 2015, 12:10:47 AM
Quote from: FastbackJon on October 15, 2012, 06:05:39 PM
Well a little over six years after starting this thread, and since having spent a few hours narrowing down the filming area and scouring Google maps to find a majority of the interesting locations used in the film, I got to visit a few of them as a small part of the honeymoon road trip last June. What a great wife!
"You go left on Fryman, right on James Street, then you bypass Bucola down to Jackson..."

Time for a revisit to the Farmington store part of the thread.  I drove by today and its an empty building.  The general store business is gone and all the signage is removed.   :'(

It was a cool spot on the intersection of nowhere and nothing. Since about 1873. The biker bar next door was hopping.  Otherwise still a really empty spot on the map of Northern California.

Pic from the old days that Jon posted.
(http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i325/68x426/farmington%20DSC00035_sm.jpg) (http://s1088.photobucket.com/user/68x426/media/farmington%20DSC00035_sm.jpg.html)



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Post by: Ghoste on October 04, 2015, 08:42:23 AM
I need to get there soon then because empty is usually followed by demolished.
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Post by: RallyeMike on October 05, 2015, 08:28:08 PM
I think we should take up a collection and buy it.
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Post by: nvrbdn on October 05, 2015, 08:42:49 PM
ha ha, a DC.COM clubhouse. :2thumbs:
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Post by: Ghoste on October 05, 2015, 09:00:15 PM
Clubhouse.  I like it.
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Post by: draftingmonkey on October 05, 2015, 09:24:14 PM
Since this thread is back thought you might like this http://www.movie-locations.com/movies/d/Dirty_Mary_Crazy_Larry.html (http://www.movie-locations.com/movies/d/Dirty_Mary_Crazy_Larry.html)
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Post by: RallyeMike on October 06, 2015, 09:08:31 PM
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Clubhouse.  I like it.

Bill's Pool House would be better, since the DMC Charger actually went there, but the last time I was there is was still a functioning establishment.
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Post by: XS29L9Bxxxxxx on June 29, 2016, 08:26:07 PM
Amazing where this is, and how I've missed gong to see these locations... Having spent a bunch of time over two years in Lathrop, I was close... so close...
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Post by: morepower on January 23, 2017, 01:56:21 PM
im still in the area. and i missed a dmcl cruise a few months back. i'll definitely look to orchestrating one if I can in the next year or two....but yes ive been to that general store before.