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Title: New Daytona project - I want your opinion
Post by: Daytona Guy on July 06, 2011, 02:54:08 AM
I'm wanting to build by first Daytona HEMI - what is your ropinion - crate motor? Privet party HEMI - if so where would I find one for sale? any good buys out there? Anyone experienced on what I need to drop one on. Do I have to take the brake power  booster off?

I'm looking for a solid blue - light - but not powder or petty blue. I tried to find an old thread I stated on this in the search, but no luck, I hate the search on this board. Someone posted a BMW color , and a dodge truck blue.

Dane



Title: Re: New Daytona project - I want your opinion
Post by: Rolling_Thunder on July 06, 2011, 03:22:13 AM
2010 BMW Atlantis Blue

(http://bespokemotor.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/Atlantis1.jpg)

2007 Aston Martin Blue

(http://www.seriouswheels.com/pics-2007/2007-Aston-Martin-V8-Vantage-Blue-Front-Angle-Top-1280x960.jpg)

2009 Nissan Monterey Blue

(http://incontrol.nexteppe.com/images/vehicles/JN1AZ44E09M401810_01.jpg)
Title: Re: New Daytona project - I want your opinion
Post by: Brock Samson on July 06, 2011, 09:47:02 AM
i couldn't find your thread either  :shruggy: And it shouldn't be difficult.
I posted the dark non mettalic ford truck blue and a dodge electric blue pearl coat color... I'll repost the ford truck color and try to find the  dodge color...
so far i'm unable to find the old pic i posted...


http://www.google.com/search?um=1&hl=en&safe=off&rlz=1G1GGLQ_ENUS333&biw=1024&bih=653&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=dodge+electric+blue+pearl&oq=dodge+electric+blue+pearl&aq=f&aqi=&aql=undefined&gs_sm=s&gs_upl=126435l133528l0l11l11l1l0l0l0l213l1297l2.7.1l10

had to do a new search...

(http://image.automotive.com/f/events/1105clt_great_smoky_mountain_ford_f100_run/36218895+soriginal/1105clt_10_o+great_smoky_mountain_ford_f100_run+dark_blue_truck.jpg)
Title: Re: New Daytona project - I want your opinion
Post by: moparstuart on July 06, 2011, 10:01:57 AM
 :drool5: :drool5: :drool5: :drool5: :drool5:    HEMI


 two recent hemi clone builds you might reference  both outstanding hemi examples


http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,70102.0.html

 

  http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,59899.0.html
Title: Re: New Daytona project - I want your opinion
Post by: Daytona Guy on July 06, 2011, 10:43:43 AM

Are these non- metallic ? There is a BMW blue that is non- metallic that I like? That Nissan blue is nice, I can't tell is that metallic ? Thank you for your help !

Dane



Quote from: Rolling_Thunder on July 06, 2011, 03:22:13 AM
2010 BMW Atlantis Blue

(http://bespokemotor.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/Atlantis1.jpg)

2007 Aston Martin Blue

(http://www.seriouswheels.com/pics-2007/2007-Aston-Martin-V8-Vantage-Blue-Front-Angle-Top-1280x960.jpg)

2009 Nissan Monterey Blue

(http://incontrol.nexteppe.com/images/vehicles/JN1AZ44E09M401810_01.jpg)
Title: Re: New Daytona project - I want your opinion
Post by: BigBlockSam on July 06, 2011, 11:10:02 AM
 :popcrn:
Title: Re: New Daytona project - I want your opinion
Post by: tan top on July 06, 2011, 11:24:15 AM
can't remember the paint code  but  there is a volkswagen  color  ,   that is a bit darker than petty blue , &  has a tiny amount of fine silver metallic flake in it , you would swear it was solid ,  until real close up in the sun !!  bit like the  EV2 Hemi orange deal ,  only ever painted  two or three which were that color  , about 8 or 9 years ago !!  :scratchchin:
Title: Re: New Daytona project - I want your opinion
Post by: WINGIN IT on July 06, 2011, 11:27:37 AM
What about that new Mustang 302 blue. It's darker than Petty Blue.
Just saw one the other day drive by, I really liked the color .
Title: Re: New Daytona project - I want your opinion
Post by: english bob on July 06, 2011, 02:54:27 PM
BMW Laguna Seca blue - as used on M3's and Z3M's - is the one if I recall your previous posts correctly.
Title: Re: New Daytona project - I want your opinion
Post by: Rolling_Thunder on July 06, 2011, 03:52:02 PM
yeah - the 2010 mustangs come in "grabber blue"    :yesnod:
Title: Re: New Daytona project - I want your opinion
Post by: b5blue on July 06, 2011, 03:58:43 PM
B5Blue is #1!!!!  :lol:
Title: Re: New Daytona project - I want your opinion
Post by: Daytona Guy on July 06, 2011, 04:20:15 PM
Quote from: b5blue on July 06, 2011, 03:58:43 PM
B5Blue is #1!!!!  :lol:

B5 is the best - I am looking for a solid color for many reasons. Want some other opinions - This car is not going to be as original looking as Randr or 1hotdaytona (by the way - those who cars are over the top amazing - you guys are in a league of your own-wow). Mine is going to have similar interior and wheels to my yellow one.

Here is the question. I am thinking of filling in the side markers to clean up the sides of the car. I am also looking at a tighter fit and finish of the nose - with no big rubber piece. I will be extending the front fenders to meet the nose "butt close" with a thin gasket. What are your thoughts of no side markers....?

It will have my traditional white wing and white hood inserts.

Anyone have an opinion on the HEMI - go crate or find something less expensive? Not going with a huge one either.

Dane
Title: Re: New Daytona project - I want your opinion
Post by: Daytona Guy on July 06, 2011, 04:48:11 PM
I think this is what I want...

(http://img594.imageshack.us/img594/6986/lagunadaytona.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/594/lagunadaytona.jpg/)

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Also - this is a tad bit too custom - but chargers just don't have any bubble hoods for the 2 gens and that always irritated me. I have an old hood that is shot. I was thinking of cutting out the indentions and flip flopping them over so they would be the negative of what is there. Kind of a "what would Dodge have done if they did do a bubble hood", type of thing. I would think about filling in the blinker or creating a vent all the way across so as to have two vents. I might call the car the "Daytona 500".

(http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/4476/img0712hw.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/51/img0712hw.jpg/)

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Title: Re: New Daytona project - I want your opinion
Post by: english bob on July 06, 2011, 04:58:54 PM
Quote from: Daytona Guy on July 06, 2011, 04:48:11 PM
I think this is what I want...

(http://img594.imageshack.us/img594/6986/lagunadaytona.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/594/lagunadaytona.jpg/)

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:yesnod: Laguna Seca blue......
Title: Re: New Daytona project - I want your opinion
Post by: kab69440 on July 06, 2011, 05:00:54 PM
Quote from: Daytona Guy on July 06, 2011, 04:48:11 PM


Also - this is a tad bit too custom - but chargers just don't have any bubble hoods for the 2 gens and that always irritated me. I have an old hood that is shot. I was thinking of cutting out the indentions and flip flopping them over so they would be the negative of what is there. Kind of a "what would Dodge have done if they did do a bubble hood", type of thing. I would think about filling in the blinker or creating a vent all the way across so as to have two vents. I might call the car the "Daytona 500".





I tried that shortly before I welded the 70 Runner bulge into my 69 hood. Kind of a " what if?" dual ramcharger scoop thing. It looked like hammered shi'ite. I went with the power bulge instead. Still have the dimples if you'd care to see it yourself.
Title: Re: New Daytona project - I want your opinion
Post by: b5blue on July 06, 2011, 05:08:20 PM
Cool ideas for sure! What about the grabber (Roadrunner/GTX) style bulge? Might look nice between the fender scoops? The only thing about the side markers is if you ever ran into a cop who was a jerk.... :scratchchin: See the topic on "Who designed the 2nd gen. Charger" there are concept drawings that may give you ideas, they did play around with a kinda vent slot on the hood.   :2thumbs: I looked all over for a shade of B5 that was non metallic for my Cherokee but never found a color that "POPPED". Check out Kirker Finishes "Coastal Blue" (I have a color chart from "Auto Body Toolmart")  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: New Daytona project - I want your opinion
Post by: randr on July 06, 2011, 05:10:26 PM
Quote from: Daytona Guy on July 06, 2011, 04:20:15 PM
Quote from: b5blue on July 06, 2011, 03:58:43 PM
B5Blue is #1!!!!  :lol:

B5 is the best - I am looking for a solid color for many reasons. Want some other opinions - This car is not going to be as original looking as Randr or 1hotdaytona (by the way - those who cars are over the top amazing - you guys are in a league of your own-wow). Mine is going to have similar interior and wheels to my yellow one.

Here is the question. I am thinking of filling in the side markers to clean up the sides of the car. I am also looking at a tighter fit and finish of the nose - with no big rubber piece. I will be extending the front fenders to meet the nose "butt close" with a thin gasket. What are your thoughts of no side markers....?

It will have my traditional white wing and white hood inserts.

Anyone have an opinion on the HEMI - go crate or find something less expensive? Not going with a huge one either.

Dane


could not of done it with out the wing! :2thumbs: :2thumbs: crate motor would be cheapest in my opinion. but not the best from what ive seen. purchase a world block and build it from that. :Twocents:
Title: Re: New Daytona project - I want your opinion
Post by: Daytona Guy on July 06, 2011, 05:19:12 PM
Quote from: b5blue on July 06, 2011, 05:08:20 PM
Cool ideas for sure! What about the grabber (Roadrunner/GTX) style bulge? Might look nice between the fender scoops? The only thing about the side markers is if you ever ran into a cop who was a jerk.... :scratchchin: See the topic on "Who designed the 2nd gen. Charger" there are concept drawings that may give you ideas, they did play around with a kinda vent slot on the hood.   :2thumbs: I looked all over for a shade of B5 that was non metallic for my Cherokee but never found a color that "POPPED". Check out Kirker Finishes "Coastal Blue" (I have a color chart from "Auto Body Toolmart")  :2thumbs:

can you give me links?
Title: Re: New Daytona project - I want your opinion
Post by: Daytona Guy on July 06, 2011, 05:27:18 PM


but not the best from what ive seen. :Twocents:
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What do you mean?
Title: Re: New Daytona project - I want your opinion
Post by: randr on July 06, 2011, 05:34:13 PM
just quality issues...3 guys i know had to totally redo them after bearing went out. maybe these issues are fixed now. also one of those guys had water leak on head and found only way to fix it was to resurface the block. i think its always better to build it from block up...then you know what you have.
Title: Re: New Daytona project - I want your opinion
Post by: Daytona Guy on July 06, 2011, 05:52:40 PM
Quote from: randr on July 06, 2011, 05:34:13 PM
just quality issues...3 guys i know had to totally redo them after bearing went out. maybe these issues are fixed now. also one of those guys had water leak on head and found only way to fix it was to resurface the block. i think its always better to build it from block up...then you know what you have.

My problem is I know nothing about the geometry of the HEMI like I do the 440. I have no idea of mixing and matching the right heads - push rods, rockers, cam, lift, degree, crank, etc...  I do not want a funny car, just I nice driver with some goooo (a lumpy cam is good).

If I had someone who knew what they were doing with is parts list I might do that.
Title: Re: New Daytona project - I want your opinion
Post by: b5blue on July 06, 2011, 06:42:28 PM
Quote from: Daytona Guy on July 06, 2011, 05:19:12 PM
Quote from: b5blue on July 06, 2011, 05:08:20 PM
Cool ideas for sure! What about the grabber (Roadrunner/GTX) style bulge? Might look nice between the fender scoops? The only thing about the side markers is if you ever ran into a cop who was a jerk.... :scratchchin: See the topic on "Who designed the 2nd gen. Charger" there are concept drawings that may give you ideas, they did play around with a kinda vent slot on the hood.   :2thumbs: I looked all over for a shade of B5 that was non metallic for my Cherokee but never found a color that "POPPED". Check out Kirker Finishes "Coastal Blue" (I have a color chart from "Auto Body Toolmart")  :2thumbs:

can you give me links?
www.autobodytoolmart.com    1-800-382-1200    (Chip charts are free, as are catalogs.)
Title: Re: New Daytona project - I want your opinion
Post by: moparstuart on July 07, 2011, 10:50:34 AM
 :drool5:  air grabbers are awesome 
Title: Re: New Daytona project - I want your opinion
Post by: moparstuart on July 07, 2011, 11:01:51 AM
 :drool5:
Title: Re: New Daytona project - I want your opinion
Post by: b5blue on July 07, 2011, 11:20:55 AM
That's the ones I remember!  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: New Daytona project - I want your opinion
Post by: Daytona Guy on July 07, 2011, 11:27:41 AM
That looks nice, but what I am looking for is the stock look. Those two look very nice but they do not have the stock lines and look like other Mopar hood. If you look at the 68 mustang GT 500 they keep the center line and still have the bulge.

I'm going to do some cutting today for a mock up. It may not work because by flipping them there maybe tooooo much of a curve. But I have my ways.

Dane
Title: Re: New Daytona project - I want your opinion
Post by: Brock Samson on July 07, 2011, 12:46:20 PM
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,63489.0.html

Check reply #19.
Title: Re: New Daytona project - I want your opinion
Post by: Patronus on July 07, 2011, 05:34:53 PM
wow, haven't seen those yet.. thnx for posting!!!
Title: Re: New Daytona project - I want your opinion
Post by: Daytona Guy on July 08, 2011, 12:34:32 AM
(http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/5359/photoflz.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/405/photoflz.jpg/)

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After looking at this and having an eye for what works - this idea will work and look like it would have come from a factory Charger Design team. It keeps it distinctly Charger. I do not think inlets will work, I will fill in the blinker and make it solid. Having inlets would be too busy on top with the fender scoops. 

These two bulges gives it just enough to give it an edge.  Stock Cars do not have hood scoops anyway – they produce drag.  The biggest mistake in custom design is going too far, subtle is good. Customizing should only enhance not define a car. I will look at having two hoops for this car.

Dane
Title: Re: New Daytona project - I want your opinion
Post by: b5blue on July 08, 2011, 07:31:07 AM
Like the carb. blister on my TR-4.  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: New Daytona project - I want your opinion
Post by: moparstuart on July 08, 2011, 09:18:07 AM
similar to the 70 sport fury hood , they have the signal still in there
Title: Re: New Daytona project - I want your opinion
Post by: Brock Samson on July 08, 2011, 05:48:15 PM
so are they gonna face forward or back?..  :scratchchin:  :popcrn:
Title: Re: New Daytona project - I want your opinion
Post by: Daytona Guy on July 09, 2011, 12:49:37 AM
Texted Laguna blue - not going to work. That blue is very bark. Does not look at all like the pics. Someone on the board posted a picture of his Dodge truck that had a nice blue on it. So still looking.

Any opinions on filling in side markers. the front would look like the 70 purple Daytona  - but with the back marker filled in. Won't be a problem with cops not an issue with costom cars.

Dane
Title: Re: New Daytona project - I want your opinion
Post by: Daytona Guy on July 10, 2011, 05:07:06 PM
Quote from: moparstuart on July 07, 2011, 10:50:34 AM
:drool5:  air grabbers are awesome 

That is amazing work on that hood.
Title: Re: New Daytona project - I want your opinion
Post by: DC_1 on July 10, 2011, 06:04:17 PM

Quote from: Daytona Guy on July 09, 2011, 12:49:37 AM
Someone on the board posted a picture of his Dodge truck that had a nice blue on it.


this one?

(http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=72846.0;attach=134866;image)


it was in the other thread you started

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,72846.msg817627.html#msg817627 (http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,72846.msg817627.html#msg817627)
Title: Re: New Daytona project - I want your opinion
Post by: Daytona Guy on July 11, 2011, 12:05:46 AM
Thank you. I wonder what color of blue that is, if it is a solid color.

Dane
Title: Re: New Daytona project - I want your opinion
Post by: DC_1 on July 11, 2011, 07:40:59 AM
Quote from: Daytona Guy on July 11, 2011, 12:05:46 AM
Thank you. I wonder what color of blue that is, if it is a solid color.

Dane

Well this is what he posted with the pic

Quote from: hotrod98 on August 26, 2010, 11:18:52 PM
I like Impact Blue also known as Super Blue. Non-metallic.
My 80 Crewcab is Impact blue and Spinnaker White.
Title: Re: New Daytona project - I want your opinion
Post by: Hemidog on July 11, 2011, 01:03:03 PM
 :shruggy:
Title: Re: New Daytona project - I want your opinion
Post by: moparstuart on July 11, 2011, 01:41:01 PM
that reminds me to much of a ford style scoope
Title: Re: New Daytona project - I want your opinion
Post by: DC_1 on July 11, 2011, 02:07:43 PM
Quote from: moparstuart on July 11, 2011, 01:41:01 PM
that reminds me to much of a ford style scoope

:yesnod:


Title: Re: New Daytona project - I want your opinion
Post by: Daytona Guy on July 11, 2011, 02:55:03 PM
That is why if you stick to the factory shape (negative image) - it should give the impression that it is all Dodge. Again, the open air intake is not a NASCAR hood and IMHO do not look right on a big oval car.

Dane
Title: Re: New Daytona project - I want your opinion
Post by: triple_green on July 13, 2011, 09:30:54 PM
What's going to happen to the yellow Daytona? ::)

Always nice work!

Mark
Title: Re: New Daytona project - I want your opinion
Post by: Daytona Guy on July 13, 2011, 09:46:13 PM
Once the blue Daytona is done and I have them to show - I will sell the yellow one. Most likely in 2012 or 13 late.

Dane
Title: Re: New Daytona project - I want your opinion
Post by: dangina on July 14, 2011, 11:41:28 PM
I like where this thread is going  :2thumbs::popcrn:
Title: Re: New Daytona project - I want your opinion
Post by: Blakcharger440 on July 15, 2011, 09:21:46 PM
Cool thread!
Title: Re: New Daytona project - I want your opinion
Post by: 472 R/T SE on July 18, 2011, 01:16:04 AM
I'll let Tom know about the yellow one.

If I could do it all over again I'd go through FHO.  http://www.forhemisonly.com/
Tim Banning told me they could build a motor similar to cost of the MP crate.



My motor's been trouble free so far.  The reassurance I got that it was a 2nd generation motor & all the issues were remedied only goes so far.  Especially now that I hear the 2nd gens.' weren't much better than 1st.

You're doing what I initially planned on doing with your old red car.  Anxious to see your end result.