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Title: Restored a '69 Grille for a Fellow DC Member
Post by: bill440rt on March 27, 2010, 10:55:50 AM
Thought I'd post these pictures on here. SUPER-nice DC.com member here wanted me to restore his '69 grille for his General Lee (I'll leave him anonymous for now unless he wants to post here).

The grille was pretty nice to begin with. No broken fins, but it had a few cracks here & there. One of the stop tabs on the driver's headlight door was missing, so I fabbed one & bonded it in. All plastic repairs were performed with SEM rigid plastic repair material, then primed with SEM flexible primer surfacer.
The silver was painted first, using Ford/Motorcraft argent silver in a spray can. It's a little lighter than the original shade, but I've used it before with great success & after seeing my grilles he also wanted his a little lighter shade. Black was then done with DupliColor Semi-Gloss black.
All new hardware & trim was supplied, and he even had the grille support blasted & then powdercoated black.

I still have to install the hood latch & vacuum lines, but here is the overall finished product.
Enjoy!
Title: Re: Restored a '69 Grille for a Fellow DC Member
Post by: bill440rt on March 27, 2010, 10:56:38 AM
More...

2nd pic is the repaired stop tab.
Title: Re: Restored a '69 Grille for a Fellow DC Member
Post by: bill440rt on March 27, 2010, 10:57:02 AM
Last few...
Title: Re: Restored a '69 Grille for a Fellow DC Member
Post by: 69*F5*SE on March 27, 2010, 11:04:16 AM
Bill, great work on the grille.   :2thumbs:   What did you use to fabricate the headlight door stop?  I have one missing also and would like to fix it.  
Title: Re: Restored a '69 Grille for a Fellow DC Member
Post by: Charger-Bodie on March 27, 2010, 11:18:12 AM
Looks Excellent Bill!!  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: Restored a '69 Grille for a Fellow DC Member
Post by: tan top on March 27, 2010, 11:21:26 AM
 :scope: ........ :o ..that looks real nice  :drool5:   good work Bill  :yesnod: :2thumbs:
Title: Re: Restored a '69 Grille for a Fellow DC Member
Post by: Brock Samson on March 27, 2010, 11:49:20 AM
 :drool5: good stuff!  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: Restored a '69 Grille for a Fellow DC Member
Post by: 68 CHARGER R/T on March 27, 2010, 11:59:05 AM
looks amazing bill . bill can you give me your  info or number  so i can send you the money soon for the two door  moldings .   thanks      rob  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: Restored a '69 Grille for a Fellow DC Member
Post by: bill440rt on March 27, 2010, 12:02:16 PM
Quote from: 69*F5*SE on March 27, 2010, 11:04:16 AM
Bill, great work on the grille.   :2thumbs:   What did you use to fabricate the headlight door stop?  I have one missing also and would like to fix it.  


Thanks all!  :cheers:

F5, making the door stop is actually pretty easy. First, using some thin cardboard I made a template of the stop on other grille door (an old box from a 12-pk of soda works great for this). Folding the template the opposite way now makes a mirror image for the other side. I then transferred this to some sheetmetal, & cut it out with tin snips. I bent the tab up using a bench vise.
Now, to attach it. Holding the template on the grille door, I marked a small 1/8" hole in it where the remaining plastic was. I drilled a hole in the new metal tab, then marked another holed & drilled that in the grille door. The new tab was scuffed & cleaned to promote adhesion. I used some of the plastic repair material (you can also use bonding adhesive), placed the tab lining up the holes, & used a small pop-rivet to hold it together. Once dry, I sanded the remaining repair material & filled the rest with more plastic repair material. Sand this some more, apply some polyester glazing putty to fill any more imperfections, prime, & your done. Once installed, you will never see the little pop rivet. It turns out to be a nice, strong repair.
It's pretty easy, you'll have no problem.  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: Restored a '69 Grille for a Fellow DC Member
Post by: bill440rt on March 27, 2010, 12:10:58 PM
Quote from: 68 CHARGER R/T on March 27, 2010, 11:59:05 AM
looks amazing bill . bill can you give me your  info or number  so i can send you the money soon for the two door  moldings .   thanks      rob  :2thumbs:


Hey, Rob!!  :wave:
PM sent.  :cheers:
Title: Re: Restored a '69 Grille for a Fellow DC Member
Post by: Ryan on March 27, 2010, 12:24:39 PM
mine looks better  :nana:

just messin with ya. Looks great man
Title: Re: Restored a '69 Grille for a Fellow DC Member
Post by: resq302 on March 27, 2010, 02:20:42 PM
Very nice work Bill.  Of course, after seeing all the other stuff you have done, I would expect nothing less! :2thumbs:
Title: Re: Restored a '69 Grille for a Fellow DC Member
Post by: oldschool on March 27, 2010, 03:46:47 PM
wow,thats nice!! :drool5:
Title: Re: Restored a '69 Grille for a Fellow DC Member
Post by: TylerCharger69 on March 27, 2010, 04:36:28 PM
Did that grille come with the headlamp bezels??  I thought only 68's had them since mine and a lot of other 69s ive seen dont
Title: Re: Restored a '69 Grille for a Fellow DC Member
Post by: 69*F5*SE on March 27, 2010, 04:57:52 PM
Quote from: bill440rt on March 27, 2010, 12:02:16 PM
Quote from: 69*F5*SE on March 27, 2010, 11:04:16 AM
Bill, great work on the grille.   :2thumbs:   What did you use to fabricate the headlight door stop?  I have one missing also and would like to fix it.  


Thanks all!  :cheers:

F5, making the door stop is actually pretty easy. First, using some thin cardboard I made a template of the stop on other grille door (an old box from a 12-pk of soda works great for this). Folding the template the opposite way now makes a mirror image for the other side. I then transferred this to some sheetmetal, & cut it out with tin snips. I bent the tab up using a bench vise.
Now, to attach it. Holding the template on the grille door, I marked a small 1/8" hole in it where the remaining plastic was. I drilled a hole in the new metal tab, then marked another holed & drilled that in the grille door. The new tab was scuffed & cleaned to promote adhesion. I used some of the plastic repair material (you can also use bonding adhesive), placed the tab lining up the holes, & used a small pop-rivet to hold it together. Once dry, I sanded the remaining repair material & filled the rest with more plastic repair material. Sand this some more, apply some polyester glazing putty to fill any more imperfections, prime, & your done. Once installed, you will never see the little pop rivet. It turns out to be a nice, strong repair.
It's pretty easy, you'll have no problem.  :2thumbs:


Bill, thanks for the information.
Title: Re: Restored a '69 Grille for a Fellow DC Member
Post by: bakerhillpins on March 27, 2010, 07:43:25 PM
WOW. That's just amazing.  :drool5:
Title: Re: Restored a '69 Grille for a Fellow DC Member
Post by: Just 6T9 CHGR on March 27, 2010, 08:49:42 PM
Nice job bro!    :cheers:
Title: Re: Restored a '69 Grille for a Fellow DC Member
Post by: bill440rt on March 27, 2010, 09:16:25 PM
Quote from: Just 6T9 CHGR on March 27, 2010, 08:49:42 PM
Nice job bro!    :cheers:


Thanks, Chris!  :bow:

Quote from: TylerCharger69 on March 27, 2010, 04:36:28 PM
Did that grille come with the headlamp bezels??  I thought only 68's had them since mine and a lot of other 69s ive seen dont

Tyler, you are correct. The bezels only came on '68's. The owner supplied them for this grille. I have them installed on my '69 grille also, I like them & feel it finishes it off.

A few "peeves" of mine. The repro hardware kits left a little to be desired. Many of the nuts & bolts are not 100% authentic or correct. Some kits were also incomplete, so I either had to raid my personal stash or re-use some of the old hardware in other areas. This was done in inconspicuous spots so they wouldn't be seen when the grille is installed in the car. Overall, they are not bad, but with the quality of repro parts nowadays they could have at least been complete.
The owner is truly a GREAT guy, he was pleased.  :cheers:
Title: Re: Restored a '69 Grille for a Fellow DC Member
Post by: 6d9 charger on March 28, 2010, 10:10:54 AM
Bill, Thanks again the grille  far exceeded my expectations . It was like christmas morning today , at 6 am i was in the garage started bolting it in !

It looks great , i will post some pics when i get a chance , again  A HUGE THANK YOU  to you .
Title: Re: Restored a '69 Grille for a Fellow DC Member
Post by: 7chargers on March 28, 2010, 10:20:12 AM
Thats why I love these cars so much, I just looked at that restored grill and I just keep saying hot damn.... The 2nd generation grills just look so mean!! Awsome work!! :2thumbs:
Title: Re: Restored a '69 Grille for a Fellow DC Member
Post by: bill440rt on March 28, 2010, 02:55:24 PM
Quote from: 6d9 charger on March 28, 2010, 10:10:54 AM
Bill, Thanks again the grille  far exceeded my expectations . It was like christmas morning today , at 6 am i was in the garage started bolting it in !

It looks great , i will post some pics when i get a chance , again  A HUGE THANK YOU  to you .


Hey, Pete!  :wave:

I know that 6 am wake up call all to well, also!  :smilielol:
So glad to hear you are pleased, hope the installation went smoothly.

So.... how about posting some pics of the finished installation??  :scratchchin:
:popcrn:  :scope:
Title: Re: Restored a '69 Grille for a Fellow DC Member
Post by: bucko81 on March 29, 2010, 09:52:16 AM
Bill- How did the powder coating of the grille frame come out?  Did it look good?  Considering doing the same to my grille frame and actuator brackets.  what color of powder coat did they use on the frame?
Title: Re: Restored a '69 Grille for a Fellow DC Member
Post by: 6d9 charger on March 29, 2010, 03:43:54 PM
the frame was  coated with a semi gloss finish as well as the actuator brackets .  i am very happy with the powder coat , it looks clean and neat . :2thumbs:
Title: Re: Restored a '69 Grille for a Fellow DC Member
Post by: bucko81 on March 29, 2010, 04:06:41 PM
Good deal, was considering doing the same thing along with the bumper brackets.
Title: Re: Restored a '69 Grille for a Fellow DC Member
Post by: bill440rt on March 29, 2010, 09:14:32 PM
Yes, the powder coating did look nice & neat. Seemed very durable & scratch resistant.

I've always painted mine, but that's just a matter of preference.
Title: Re: Restored a '69 Grille for a Fellow DC Member
Post by: 6d9 charger on April 04, 2010, 10:36:27 AM
BILL , HERE IT IS . THE GRILL REALLY LOOKS AWSOME.  THANKS AGAIN, NOW SOME SMALL DETAIS NOW , LIGHTS  ETC.. :icon_smile_big: :icon_smile_big:
Title: Re: Restored a '69 Grille for a Fellow DC Member
Post by: 6d9 charger on April 04, 2010, 10:37:44 AM
ONE MORE  :icon_smile_big:
Title: Re: Restored a '69 Grille for a Fellow DC Member
Post by: resq302 on April 04, 2010, 03:35:41 PM
One word comes to mind......yeeee-haaaa
Title: Re: Restored a '69 Grille for a Fellow DC Member
Post by: lexxman on April 04, 2010, 05:27:17 PM
That looks amazing. Does the 69 grille have that trim plate around the lights? If so I don't have them.
Title: Re: Restored a '69 Grille for a Fellow DC Member
Post by: mauve66 on April 04, 2010, 05:35:00 PM
Quote from: bill440rt on March 27, 2010, 09:16:25 PM
Quote from: Just 6T9 CHGR on March 27, 2010, 08:49:42 PM
Nice job bro!    :cheers:


Thanks, Chris!  :bow:

Quote from: TylerCharger69 on March 27, 2010, 04:36:28 PM
Did that grille come with the headlamp bezels??  I thought only 68's had them since mine and a lot of other 69s ive seen dont

Tyler, you are correct. The bezels only came on '68's. The owner supplied them for this grille. I have them installed on my '69 grille also, I like them & feel it finishes it off.

A few "peeves" of mine. The repro hardware kits left a little to be desired. Many of the nuts & bolts are not 100% authentic or correct. Some kits were also incomplete, so I either had to raid my personal stash or re-use some of the old hardware in other areas. This was done in inconspicuous spots so they wouldn't be seen when the grille is installed in the car. Overall, they are not bad, but with the quality of repro parts nowadays they could have at least been complete.
The owner is truly a GREAT guy, he was pleased.  :cheers:
Title: Re: Restored a '69 Grille for a Fellow DC Member
Post by: troutstreamnm on April 05, 2010, 05:49:30 PM
Beautiful job on the grille restore.  What paint and colors did you use for the black parts of the grille and the argent shroud?  Thanks.
Title: Re: Restored a '69 Grille for a Fellow DC Member
Post by: bill440rt on April 10, 2010, 07:49:53 AM
The pictures look GREAT, Pete!!!  :2thumbs:  :cheers: :cheers: :bow: :bow: :bow:

The GL is really coming together. Hey, would it be too much to ask you to take my son for a ride? He would love that!!


Quote from: troutstreamnm on April 05, 2010, 05:49:30 PM
Beautiful job on the grille restore.  What paint and colors did you use for the black parts of the grille and the argent shroud?  Thanks.

Check out the first paragraph in this post:
"The silver was painted first, using Ford/Motorcraft argent silver in a spray can. It's a little lighter than the original shade, but I've used it before with great success & after seeing my grilles he also wanted his a little lighter shade. Black was then done with DupliColor Semi-Gloss black."
:2thumbs:
Title: Re: Restored a '69 Grille for a Fellow DC Member
Post by: troutstreamnm on April 10, 2010, 08:49:59 AM
Thanks for the response....my eyes when right to the pics and I missed the text !
Title: Re: Restored a '69 Grille for a Fellow DC Member
Post by: 6d9 charger on April 10, 2010, 07:39:28 PM
Bill . Anytime he wants to go, just tell him we can't do any jumps or driving on two wheels .     :icon_smile_big: :drool5:
i will keep the updates coming . thanks again .
Title: Re: Restored a '69 Grille for a Fellow DC Member
Post by: runningman on April 10, 2010, 08:40:34 PM
Bill, grille looks awesome!  I am in the middle of doing this on my 68 grille.  I had numerous broken/cracked mounting tabs and cracks in the upper corners on each side.  Those repairs came out good, now working on cleaning it up with some steel wool before priming it.  I just dropped off the grille support at the powder coaters yesterday as well.  I should have it in about three weeks.
Title: Re: Restored a '69 Grille for a Fellow DC Member
Post by: jeryst on April 18, 2010, 07:17:58 AM
Absolutely beautiful work!