Interesting how few Chargers there are for sale..none on this site for months, even at Moparts no Chargers for sale for months. Kind of like houses in my neighborhood, few for sale and the ones that are go for crazy amount over the asking price...I guess I should be glad I have the Charger I do...
I watch our local classifieds also for Chargers
Not much of anything
A couple that have been listed for the last 2 years for big bucks and their prices have not changed but soon the average market price will catch up to the sellers price and think they will sell
We also have about 15 Charger wanted ads in the same classifieds
Tons of ads on Facebook with unreasonable asking prices
The lack of cars for sale coincides with the lack of site traffic and any interesting new posts. On any given day, it only takes a minute to scan through topics. This place used to be a happening website, what happened to it?
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I blame drugs.
Quote from: Mytur Binsdirti on April 04, 2022, 05:49:35 PM
The lack of cars for sale coincides with the lack of site traffic and any interesting new posts. On any given day, it only takes a minute to scan through topics. This place used to be a happening website, what happened to it?
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20 years ago when I joined you could have 3 or 4 pages of unread topics almost daily. I have my opinions of what happened but I'll keep my mouth shut. :cheers: :cheers:
Quote from: Mytur Binsdirti on April 04, 2022, 05:49:35 PM
The lack of cars for sale coincides with the lack of site traffic and any interesting new posts. On any given day, it only takes a minute to scan through topics. This place used to be a happening website, what happened to it?
Just right what I was to say! In the old good days I could spent couple of hours checking and replying threads... And I didn't even enter on all sections!
I agree in that there use to be a lot more posts in the past. Perhaps it's time for a revamping of the site. Add some new content, delete some of the less visited categories, etc. One pet peeve is the order of the responses in a posting. Maybe reverse them so the latest post is the first one seen, then scrolling down to the original post. Just a thought. Maybe add some new picture categories too, like "Members' Rides", "Derelict Chargers", etc. What do you think, moderators?
When Photo Bucket started charging money, LOTS of photos left the building !!!! that hurt this site A LOT, also the search function hurts , I would love to help rejuvenate this site !!!!!
I havnt been on in a while. Just insanely busy. But prior to my absence, photobucket was a main reason for less posts. It is not easy to post a photo anymore from a cell phone and i cant tell you the last time i used my laptop. Literally years. Everytime i take a photo i have to edit it a ridiculous amount to resize it to meet the site criteria, and then instead of a normal "size" on the reply, it is massive and you have to scroll across the screen to see it. Not user friendly at all.
I guess if you have a charger for sale facebook reaches a lot more people...
Quote from: Nacho-RT74 on April 05, 2022, 06:54:22 AM
Quote from: Mytur Binsdirti on April 04, 2022, 05:49:35 PM
The lack of cars for sale coincides with the lack of site traffic and any interesting new posts. On any given day, it only takes a minute to scan through topics. This place used to be a happening website, what happened to it?
Just right what I was to say! In the old good days I could spent couple of hours checking and replying threads... And I didn't even enter on all sections!
I sort of feel like the high prices, speculators, 'investors', VIN plate switchers, and guys selling Chevy-esque restos have taken their toll on the hobby. That crowd probably isn't selling their Chargers here to us hobby/enthusiast types.
They aren't making 2nd gens any more and those that are left are dwindling. The general high prices of cars have me turned off to the whole thing in a way. Even a few years ago I got an MG Midget as a cheap project car - this is taking hundreds of dollars to do. Then I got a Triumph TR6 - this is taking thousands to do. I can't afford the Charger I want which would be tens of thousands of dollars, and seemingly pushing higher and higher all the time. You guys with 1-5 Chargers are lucky you got in the game when you did.
Quote from: c00nhunterjoe on April 05, 2022, 02:41:00 PM
I havnt been on in a while. Just insanely busy. But prior to my absence, photobucket was a main reason for less posts. It is not easy to post a photo anymore from a cell phone and i cant tell you the last time i used my laptop. Literally years. Everytime i take a photo i have to edit it a ridiculous amount to resize it to meet the site criteria, and then instead of a normal "size" on the reply, it is massive and you have to scroll across the screen to see it. Not user friendly at all.
I have stated the same thing and a few dickheads on the forum try to defend the forum and insult me at the same time for it.
Fuck those jerkoffs....
Quote from: Kern Dog on April 05, 2022, 07:46:04 PM
Quote from: c00nhunterjoe on April 05, 2022, 02:41:00 PM
I havnt been on in a while. Just insanely busy. But prior to my absence, photobucket was a main reason for less posts. It is not easy to post a photo anymore from a cell phone and i cant tell you the last time i used my laptop. Literally years. Everytime i take a photo i have to edit it a ridiculous amount to resize it to meet the site criteria, and then instead of a normal "size" on the reply, it is massive and you have to scroll across the screen to see it. Not user friendly at all.
I have stated the same thing and a few dickheads on the forum try to defend the forum and insult me at the same time for it.
Fuck those jerkoffs....
I have your back Gregory, out their names.
And to add, I blame none of this on the owner (Troy) or admins. There is still a wealth of knowledge archived here for just about anything charger related.
Site is still good for finding information to get help. Search feature was working better the last time I used it. Of course now compared to when this site started there is youtube and Facebook for finding information.
Interesting points on price of the cars. How many people that can afford to buy these cars anymore actually work on them and search for fixes and parts or just pay someone.
The average age of the car owners is probably pretty high.
The supply of workable projects is the worst it has ever been. Resto costs are higher than ever. Most of the restorable cars are already done.
There are many more places to sell cars than there used to be.
Most of America has been losing economic ground since the 1970s. The hobby requires money + free time + workspace/garage/car interest. Lots of people have 1-2 of those but it's rare to have all three anymore.
All these factors help push down the amount of activity in the hobby.
I can't speak for the other owners, but if I wanted to sell my car, I could make a couple calls and have it sold, cash in hand and out of my garage within 48 hours without listing it anywhere. I wouldn't have to deal with flakes or people who think they are going to widdle the price down when they come to wrap up the deal. The ones that get listed tend to be the ones where the sellers are looking to get above market value.
Quote from: rich4406bbl on April 05, 2022, 01:35:45 PM
I agree in that there use to be a lot more posts in the past. Perhaps it's time for a revamping of the site. Add some new content, delete some of the less visited categories, etc. One pet peeve is the order of the responses in a posting. Maybe reverse them so the latest post is the first one seen, then scrolling down to the original post. Just a thought. Maybe add some new picture categories too, like "Members' Rides", "Derelict Chargers", etc. What do you think, moderators?
You can fix your one pet peeve using the settings in your profile.
Troy
Quote from: Kern Dog on April 05, 2022, 07:46:04 PM
Quote from: c00nhunterjoe on April 05, 2022, 02:41:00 PM
I havnt been on in a while. Just insanely busy. But prior to my absence, photobucket was a main reason for less posts. It is not easy to post a photo anymore from a cell phone and i cant tell you the last time i used my laptop. Literally years. Everytime i take a photo i have to edit it a ridiculous amount to resize it to meet the site criteria, and then instead of a normal "size" on the reply, it is massive and you have to scroll across the screen to see it. Not user friendly at all.
I have stated the same thing and a few dickheads on the forum try to defend the forum and insult me at the same time for it.
Fuck those jerkoffs....
The image name deal and size limits has been allways like that, with more posts before and now with less posts. And maybe 85% of the posts are just text. So that's not a reason.
In fact initially we could just post one image per post, now we can post 4.
Quote from: JimShine on April 06, 2022, 02:26:26 PM
I can't speak for the other owners, but if I wanted to sell my car, I could make a couple calls and have it sold, cash in hand and out of my garage within 48 hours without listing it anywhere. I wouldn't have to deal with flakes or people who think they are going to widdle the price down when they come to wrap up the deal. The ones that get listed tend to be the ones where the sellers are looking to get above market value.
I might be interested in your contacts. My Wife says I have to sell a few. I was thinking of using "gateway classics". No 100 percent sure of the name right now.
i must say Moparts threads/posts has been going slow down latelly too
I think a majority of theses sites have taken a hit because of FB. Plenty of car groups on FB and uploading pics only take me a minute, don't need to resize. but whenever I need some tech advice I always rely on DC or Moparts.
Up here on Chinada the major for sale app kijiji is full of want ads for 68-70 chargers.the couple tbat do pop up for sale are 80k+ for a restored car or 30-40k for a car needing tons of work.
watching :popcrn: :popcrn: :yesnod:
Quote from: charger_fan_4ever on April 12, 2022, 10:38:25 PM
Up here on Chinada the major for sale app kijiji is full of want ads for 68-70 chargers.the couple that do pop up for sale are 80k+ for a restored car or 30-40k for a car needing tons of work.
Its been crazy for a while, way fewer workable cars up here, and lately people are jumping on any project they can get. My Basket case was 10k (cdn) 5 years ago, I shudder to think what iit would have costed now.
I got a call from a friend of a co-worker who told him about my car, somehow he got my cell number (coworker said he didn't give it) and wanted to buy it sight unseen...
Quote from: armor64 on April 18, 2022, 06:19:15 AM
Quote from: charger_fan_4ever on April 12, 2022, 10:38:25 PM
Up here on Chinada the major for sale app kijiji is full of want ads for 68-70 chargers.the couple that do pop up for sale are 80k+ for a restored car or 30-40k for a car needing tons of work.
Its been crazy for a while, way fewer workable cars up here, and lately people are jumping on any project they can get. My Basket case was 10k (cdn) 5 years ago, I shudder to think what iit would have costed now.
I got a call from a friend of a co-worker who told him about my car, somehow he got my cell number (coworker said he didn't give it) and wanted to buy it sight unseen...
Amost the same thing happened to me last week
A friend got a call from his buddy that I have never met asking about my car and if I would sell it but my friend told him no not for sale
I thought I paid too much for mine about 5 years ago. I bought it basically site unseen for 7200.00. When I picked it up it was far more rusted than I thought. I changed a full floor pan, full trunk floor, both outer wheel houses, tail light panel, rear valance, trunk lid, both front fenders, and front valance. Some of it was fixable but once I started I just didn't want to repair any weak sheet metal. But 68-70's I see now that are in worse shape cost far more than that. And mine had a running 440 in it. Unreal what all collector cars in any condition will bring. I think everyone has realized there getting harder to find. I almost sold this one a while back. I am very glad I didn't do it. Not because there worth more but because it would be harder to find another one.
Quote from: dreamcatcher on April 18, 2022, 06:34:31 PM
I thought I paid too much for mine about 5 years ago. I bought it basically site unseen for 7200.00. When I picked it up it was far more rusted than I thought. I changed a full floor pan, full trunk floor, both outer wheel houses, tail light panel, rear valance, trunk lid, both front fenders, and front valance. Some of it was fixable but once I started I just didn't want to repair any weak sheet metal. But 68-70's I see now that are in worse shape cost far more than that. And mine had a running 440 in it. Unreal what all collector cars in any condition will bring. I think everyone has realized there getting harder to find. I almost sold this one a while back. I am very glad I didn't do it. Not because there worth more but because it would be harder to find another one.
Sounds pretty similar to my 70 RT except i also changed upper and lower cowl,door hinge pillars,inner fenders.I paid 5k in 2008ish however had a 383 on place.
Bought this one for $2,000 not too long ago. 440 not original, transmission and 8-3/4 rear end. Came with all the interior and grill and rear lights. No wiring.
Right place right time or did you have to know somebody ??
I picked up my 70 Charger project in similar condition for about the same money less than 5 years ago but was more I was first one there with the cash kind of deal
Quote from: Mopar Nut on April 19, 2022, 04:35:14 AM
Bought this one for $2,000 not too long ago. 440 not original, transmission and 8-3/4 rear end. Came with all the interior and grill and rear lights. No wiring.
You scored! Anything with a title for that price is a good buy anymore!
Great buy !! :cheers:
Quote from: 70 sublime on April 19, 2022, 06:14:56 AM
Right place right time or did you have to know somebody ??
I picked up my 70 Charger project in similar condition for about the same money less than 5 years ago but was more I was first one there with the cash kind of deal
That's what happened, he listed it on our local sale ads, and I had my phone set to alert, and I was the first one there. I did pay with PayPal believe it or not.
Quote from: dreamcatcher on April 19, 2022, 08:07:57 AM
Quote from: Mopar Nut on April 19, 2022, 04:35:14 AM
Bought this one for $2,000 not too long ago. 440 not original, transmission and 8-3/4 rear end. Came with all the interior and grill and rear lights. No wiring.
You scored! Anything with a title for that price is a good buy anymore!
Thanks. When I was bringing it home, there was a guy there wanting to buy the grill that was already taken off. He offered $800
Quote from: ACUDANUT on April 19, 2022, 09:16:48 AM
Great buy !! :cheers:
Thank you, it does need a lot of work.
Wow. That's one helluva deal.
Quote from: Mopar Nut on April 20, 2022, 04:34:30 AM
Quote from: 70 sublime on April 19, 2022, 06:14:56 AM
Right place right time or did you have to know somebody ??
I picked up my 70 Charger project in similar condition for about the same money less than 5 years ago but was more I was first one there with the cash kind of deal
That's what happened, he listed it on our local sale ads, and I had my phone set to alert, and I was the first one there. I did pay with PayPal believe it or not.
:2thumbs: :2thumbs:
Quote from: Mopar Nut on April 20, 2022, 04:39:04 AM
Quote from: ACUDANUT on April 19, 2022, 09:16:48 AM
Great buy !! :cheers:
Thank you, it does need a lot of work.
That is the thing. Most of them need a lot of work. The one I bought looked great in the pictures. Then the truth came out when I got a closer look. To me when there like yours at least you know what your in for from the start. Where mine was an unpleasant surprise. I knew it would need work but it needed much more than I had thought. And after the work is done there well worth it. I figure I have about 22000.00 total in mine doing everything my self. And I know it is worth that or more now. Good luck , take your time and enjoy having a true classic that everyone wants!
Quote from: Mytur Binsdirti on April 04, 2022, 05:49:35 PM
The lack of cars for sale coincides with the lack of site traffic and any interesting new posts. On any given day, it only takes a minute to scan through topics. This place used to be a happening website, what happened to it?
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All the hobbyists are dead, and the only ones left are the poachers who ended up with their cars, looking to make a buck, or the Barrett Jackson crowd who just let them sit.
They're all right here:
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,114356.3125.html
Quote from: NHCharger on April 10, 2022, 07:17:23 PM
I think a majority of theses sites have taken a hit because of FB. Plenty of car groups on FB and uploading pics only take me a minute, don't need to resize. but whenever I need some tech advice I always rely on DC or Moparts.
Agreed. In fact I often post pictures there and then resave them to post here because it easily resizes them. But I would come here for Charger advice much sooner than FB. It's surprising the lack of basic Mopar knowledge you find on a FB Mopar page. FB encompasses all my interests though, not just Charger stuff so I find myself there a lot more than here.
As for the Charger market, I also can tell that it has dried up. Even the one overpriced flipper guy in town here hasn't had anything for sale in years. He could at least be counted on to post ads that he's looking to buy but no more. The classified options are much different than they used to be too. I sold a dirt bike last summer on craigslist and not only did I not get any buyers contacting me I got charged and scammed. It was a complete joke.
I sold my TW200 on FB in one day, twice what I bought it for. However I WAS going to send a pal a link to a free train track layout but the copied link was a friggin paragraph long of tracking info! I was stunned 27 years ago to get my car for 1500.00 but the first call Steve made was to some asshole who had offered 1200.00 for a year.
Several weeks ago, my daughter advertised an old aluminum boat and motor for sale on FB. They included several photos of the boat which also showed my 74 Charger in the background. She got a couple of calls on the boat but alot of calls with people asking if she wanted to get rid of the old Dodge Charger in the background. She wished she had several to sell. You can see the boat in the background of the Charger photo I took a while back
:yesnod:
Terry W.
That car looks pretty solid and original. What engine did it have? I have a couple 73's I like everything about them but the huge bumpers lol.
Originally a 318, now 360 auto. Only one small spot of rust behind the passenger rear wheel. Just a pinhole in one spot due to a flat washer that had fallen down in the trunk floor extension drop off. Cleaned out now.
Terry W.
Quote from: bull on April 22, 2022, 10:59:48 AM
It's surprising the lack of basic Mopar knowledge you find on a FB Mopar page. FB encompasses all my interests though, not just Charger stuff so I find myself there a lot more than here.
I've got several hobbies that keep me waist deep in technical issues and if you'd like a bunch of disinformation about any one of them, then FB is your goto. It's not designed to have knowledge though, just simply designed to keep you online clicking away. I personally, don't have a FB account, never did, never will.
AMD and the other metal benders 'missed a trick'.
They thought that everyone wanted Challengers?
Err NO!
Ever since 'Dukes of Hazards', everyone has wanted a 69 Charger... :2thumbs: :drool5: :popcrn:
Yeah some folks liked a 'white 70 Chally', but a bit too niche...?
Turn the clock back to the late 80's and 90's and that's when we needed 'FULL BODIES' for resto and customs!
EVERY CHARGER COULD HAVE BEEN SAVED AND A FEW 'NON ORIGINALS TOO.
( any late 60's title could have been carefully manipulated lol)... :slap: :slap: :slap:
There are 4 BILLION adults on the planet between the age of 20 to 60 years.
Some of them wanted a Charger too... :'( :'( :'(
Probably 300 plus killed by the Dukes crowd?
They are still getting wrecked even today...
Me and my metalwork mate in LA can save anything lol... :horse: :hack: :smash: :buff:
Quote from: bakerhillpins on April 25, 2022, 09:34:35 AM
Quote from: bull on April 22, 2022, 10:59:48 AM
It's surprising the lack of basic Mopar knowledge you find on a FB Mopar page. FB encompasses all my interests though, not just Charger stuff so I find myself there a lot more than here.
I am with you there! I don't have and never will have FB. But I cruse through this site sometimes and that is pretty much it. :2thumbs:
I've got several hobbies that keep me waist deep in technical issues and if you'd like a bunch of disinformation about any one of them, then FB is your goto. It's not designed to have knowledge though, just simply designed to keep you online clicking away. I personally, don't have a FB account, never did, never will.
Quote from: Mytur Binsdirti on April 04, 2022, 05:49:35 PM
The lack of cars for sale coincides with the lack of site traffic and any interesting new posts. On any given day, it only takes a minute to scan through topics. This place used to be a happening website, what happened to it?
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Kettle...black, lol.
So, who wants to step up and pay for server fees?
If Troy give y'all what you want, yall be bitching about advertisements, ha!
Start your own Charger forum and get back, lol.
Quote from: 472 R/T SE on May 21, 2022, 06:17:49 PM
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Kettle...black, lol.
Are you trying to say that black kettles matter?
Quote from: aerolith on April 25, 2022, 12:57:11 PM
Probably 300 plus killed by the Dukes crowd?
They are still getting wrecked even today...
Me and my metalwork mate in LA can save anything lol... :horse: :hack: :smash: :buff:
Looks like one of those Chevy Caprice General Lees - the dash is what is making me think that.
Quote from: Homerr on May 23, 2022, 01:07:15 PM
Quote from: aerolith on April 25, 2022, 12:57:11 PM
Probably 300 plus killed by the Dukes crowd?
They are still getting wrecked even today...
Me and my metalwork mate in LA can save anything lol... :horse: :hack: :smash: :buff:
Looks like one of those Chevy Caprice General Lees - the dash is what is making me think that.
The Caprice went out of production many years ago. I think that you meant toe Ford Crown Victoria.
people trying to save them to get higher prices......
Quote from: Mytur Binsdirti on April 04, 2022, 05:49:35 PM
The lack of cars for sale coincides with the lack of site traffic and any interesting new posts. On any given day, it only takes a minute to scan through topics. This place used to be a happening website, what happened to it?
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I say its a combo of this and many other things going on in life.....